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A few new Sony models and pricing:

32" LCD KDL32BX330 $329.99 -$92 BX320
40" LCD KDL40BX450 $499.99 -$200 BX420
40" LED KDL40EX640 $899.99 -$200 EX620
42" LED KDL42EX440 $579.99 N/A
46" LCD KDL46BX450 $699.99 -$200 BX420
46" LED KDL46EX640 $1199.99 -$100 EX620
46" LED KDL46HX750 $1599.99 -$300 HX729
46" LED KDL46HX850 $2099.99 -$500 HX820
55" LED KDL55EX640 $1799.99 -$300 EX620
55" LED KDL55HX750 $2099.99 -$600 HX729
55" LED KDL55HX850 $2599.99 -$800 HX820

LED = LED Edgelit LCD
Price drop over comparable last years model.

Enjoy!!

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when will these hit stores? I was considering grabbing the ex620 but not if these come out soon.
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That's a great price for the KDL40ex640. I wonder if Sony also upgraded their quality control and the sets don't come out with a lot of clouding or flashlighting.Ah, and I also hope they get S-PVA panels. Looking forward to ordering one of these.
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A few new Sony models and pricing:

32" LCD KDL32BX330 $329.99 -$92 BX320
40" LCD KDL40BX450 $499.99 -$200 BX420
40" LED KDL40EX640 $899.99 -$200 EX620
42" LED KDL42EX440 $579.99 N/A
46" LCD KDL46BX450 $699.99 -$200 BX420
46" LED KDL46EX640 $1199.99 -$100 EX620
46" LED KDL46HX750 $1599.99 -$300 HX729
46" LED KDL46HX850 $2099.99 -$500 HX820
55" LED KDL55EX640 $1799.99 -$300 EX620
55" LED KDL55HX750 $2099.99 -$600 HX729
55" LED KDL55HX850 $2599.99 -$800 HX820

LED = LED Backlit LCD
Price drop over comparable last years model.

Enjoy!!

hmm no. LED = EDGE LED. not backlit. sony isn't making a backlit LED this year.
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U guys are killing me. I had the same nitpick over at HDJ. By saying backlit, i meant it as the tv is an LCD w/ LED lights vs CCFL. I put that to avoid nitpickers say "technically it's not LED, it's LED LCD" but apparently that was not good enough.

From my understanding as it is, backlit simply means it uses LED lights in the panel and could qualify as both edge or full array. It's a non specific way of labeling an LED LCD.

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U guys are killing me. I had the same nitpick over at HDJ. By saying backlit, i meant it as the tv is an LCD w/ LED lights vs CCFL. I put that to avoid nitpickers say "technically it's not LED, it's LED LCD" but apparently that was not good enough.

From my understanding as it is, backlit simply means it uses LED lights in the panel and could qualify as both edge or full array. It's a non specific way of labeling an LED LCD.

Lol, dont lose sleep over it. You cant please errbody.
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When I nitpicked you at HDJ I made it clear I was nitpicking and I did it for precision. I neither insulted you nor in any way impugned you. There are people who care about where the LEDs are (for various reasons), so I was informing them.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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I think you got it right. The detail that people are commenting on is the lighting part.

http://reviews.cnet.com/2795-6482_7-399.html

1. Full-array without local dimming
2. Edge-lit without local dimming
3. Full-array with local dimming
4. Edge-lit with local dimming

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The main difference between the 46EX460 and the 46HX750 is that the 750 is 3D-capable, correct?
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I took no offense to ur posts guys. I understand the need for clarification and i thought led backlit lcd was good enough, mainly because i dont really follow sony products and didnt know if they were offering full array in one of their sets, was too lazy to research, and therefore put "backlit" as my post above states i believe that covers both versions.

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hmm no. LED = EDGE LED. not backlit. sony isn't making a backlit LED this year.

They are still making the HX929 which is full array back-lit. They aren't updating the model though. So it will just be cheaper this year, not newer.
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The main difference between the 46EX460 and the 46HX750 is that the 750 is 3D-capable, correct?

Built in wifi and Gorilla Glass arent being used???
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They are still making the HX929 which is full array back-lit. They aren't updating the model though. So it will just be cheaper this year, not newer.

Did they confirm there's no update? I thought the XBR line got its official updates in March or thereabouts.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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LED backlit is kind of vague, would appreciate more accurate discription - is it a Side Lit? is it b Full Array? is it d Full Array Local Dimming ?

As long as ->^^folks<- keep posting these generalisations AVSvisitors will never get it.

BOE!
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Did they confirm there's no update? I thought the XBR line got its official updates in March or thereabouts.

It might happen, but I don't see much "wow" happening at this point without something changing. About all they can really upgrade that will sell sets is more dimming zones, and only to folks like us.

The HX929 was still being manufactured post-CES (mine is actually a Jan 2012 set). If they want to introduce something in the next couple months, I'd expect HX929 production to be effectively dead now so they can start retooling for it. And I know their supply pipeline is pretty lean on the HX929.

Rumors of Sony switching to LG IPS panels may be interesting, but will they show up in the high-end or low-end line first? Can they retain enough real PQ to launch an XBR with them first? LG's TVs tend to be a bit weaker on the contrast end, but it may just be how they drive/light the panel, and not the panel itself.

Now, they might announce a new XBR before the end of the year to start shipping around the holidays. I could buy that. But for that to happen I'd expect one of the following to be true:

- LG IPS passive 3D panels.
- 4k panel.

Possibly both if LG can ramp up 4k panel production at sizes that Sony can sell. Although even then, going with an IPS + Passive panel might be an interesting selling point. Otherwise I see a 2012 XBR being underwhelming enough that people simply skip it waiting for something they can sink their teeth into in 2013.

If I was Sony, I'd drive down the HX929 price over the next year, sell as many as I can with how little competition there is in the space right now (LW9800 is MIA, the Elite is twice the price), and then introduce a big update either in holiday 2012 or show off a 2013 XBR at CES. The timing is just very unfortunate to really push another flagship right now that doesn't have 4k, OLED, or some other buzzword.
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LED backlit is kind of vague, would appreciate more accurate discription - is it a Side Lit? is it b Full Array? is it d Full Array Local Dimming ?

As long as ->^^folks<- keep posting these generalisations AVSvisitors will never get it.

BOE!

Ya i get it. The key point of the post was pricing and in no way was intended to be an Official sony 2012 thread full of detailed specs on each product, hence why i intentionally put backlit as a vague description. I have updated it partly though with edgelit, but idk if ill go any further with posting which ones have local dimming etc. I dont have time nor the will for that on sony products.

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A few new Sony models and pricing:

32" LCD KDL32BX330 $329.99 -$92 BX320
40" LCD KDL40BX450 $499.99 -$200 BX420
40" LED KDL40EX640 $899.99 -$200 EX620
42" LED KDL42EX440 $579.99 N/A
46" LCD KDL46BX450 $699.99 -$200 BX420
46" LED KDL46EX640 $1199.99 -$100 EX620
46" LED KDL46HX750 $1599.99 -$300 HX729
46" LED KDL46HX850 $2099.99 -$500 HX820
55" LED KDL55EX640 $1799.99 -$300 EX620
55" LED KDL55HX750 $2099.99 -$600 HX729
55" LED KDL55HX850 $2599.99 -$800 HX820

LED = LED Edgelit LCD
Price drop over comparable last years model.

Enjoy!!

Times have changed- there goes Sony...

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A few new Sony models and pricing:

32" LCD KDL32BX330 $329.99 -$92 BX320
40" LCD KDL40BX450 $499.99 -$200 BX420
40" LED KDL40EX640 $899.99 -$200 EX620
42" LED KDL42EX440 $579.99 N/A
46" LCD KDL46BX450 $699.99 -$200 BX420
46" LED KDL46EX640 $1199.99 -$100 EX620
46" LED KDL46HX750 $1599.99 -$300 HX729
46" LED KDL46HX850 $2099.99 -$500 HX820
55" LED KDL55EX640 $1799.99 -$300 EX620
55" LED KDL55HX750 $2099.99 -$600 HX729
55" LED KDL55HX850 $2599.99 -$800 HX820

LED = LED Edgelit LCD
Price drop over comparable last years model.

Enjoy!!

thank you for this great post! this is very helpful for me as i am in the market and i am a sony fan.

does anyone know which models will have gorilla glass or have any info on the models specificially?

thanks again!
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Sonys XBR HX929 is and will be the current for 2012. There will NOT be a newer model, the HX929 will continue to be Sonys top of the line model. As with any tv they may change/upgrade parts but dont count on it being anything other than a more cost effective way to make more money.
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thank you for this great post! this is very helpful for me as i am in the market and i am a sony fan.

does anyone know which models will have gorilla glass or have any info on the models specificially?

thanks again!

If any of them still have Gorilla glass it would only be the HX models. More info will be coming on all 2012 models soon. The models will start getting sent to stores in the next 2-3 weeks.
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So there's no equivalent NX series this year? That seemed like a huge sweetspot for 2011. I was 100% impressed with my 46NX720, and it takes a lot to impress me.

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Sonys XBR HX929 is and will be the current for 2012. There will NOT be a newer model, the HX929 will continue to be Sonys top of the line model. As with any tv they may change/upgrade parts but dont count on it being anything other than a more cost effective way to make more money.

I believe you, but where did you get the info?

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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This model Sony KDL-42EX440 is listed as being in stock at a store. Sony's Web site doesn't list any info at all. What gives? Anyone know about this model?
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This model Sony KDL-42EX440 is listed as being in stock at a store. Sony's Web site doesn't list any info at all. What gives? Anyone know about this model?
I'm also interested to this TV... as someone more detailed informations or reviews? Thanks
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