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jonicarter's Avatar jonicarter 11:01 AM 02-08-2012
Will 40-42" large enough when seated 7' from the tv?

dm145's Avatar dm145 11:09 AM 02-08-2012
maybe at first but a few weeks down the line you will wish you went bigger
went through this with several friends and relatives who did not heed my warning
MrBobb's Avatar MrBobb 11:17 AM 02-08-2012
Cut a cardboard the exact size of the TV, hung it where u want it. "Feel" it for a few days. It seems to work even wo an image.
M5Rahul's Avatar M5Rahul 12:01 PM 02-08-2012
My viewing distance is 10' and I have a 65". The first few days it had that ' in your face ' affect. Now, it's amazing!

I also have a 55" and it looks small now

For 7' I would recommend a 46-47", if not 50!

Trust me, you'll love the larger size, even though you may think differently right now and for the first week!
jonicarter's Avatar jonicarter 12:07 PM 02-08-2012
Well my main reason for asking is that I currently have a 46" TV in that spot right now and I feel like it's a bit big. My eyes always had to scan the screen, which I didn't care for. I've had it in the same spot for months, so I was definitely used to it size wise and doubt my feelings on it's size would change at this point. It was stolen last week though, so I'm replacing it now and figured that since it seemed a bit big, I would look into the 40-42" models, and also maybe get a nice set for the same $$.

I actually tried the cardboard cutout trick last night and felt like the the 40/42" would work fine, especially the 42". It's just hard to decide without an actual image to see. I guess I'll just have to buy one and see for myself, then return it if it doesn't work out.
armand1's Avatar armand1 12:27 PM 02-08-2012
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Well my main reason for asking is that I currently have a 46" TV in that spot right now and I feel like it's a bit big. My eyes always had to scan the screen, which I didn't care for. I've had it in the same spot for months, so I was definitely used to it size wise and doubt my feelings on it's size would change at this point. It was stolen last week though, so I'm replacing it now and figured that since it seemed a bit big, I would look into the 40-42" models, and also maybe get a nice set for the same $$.

I actually tried the cardboard cutout trick last night and felt like the the 40/42" would work fine, especially the 42". It's just hard to decide without an actual image to see. I guess I'll just have to buy one and see for myself, then return it if it doesn't work out.

Have you looked at the Samsung UN46D64xx or higher numbered models. Samsung calls it "ONE DESIGN". These have a narrow/small bezel around the frame and the outside dimensions are like a 42" TV but has a 46" panel and less than a inch thick.

We have a small basement family room (sit 8' from TV) and my wife did not want anything bigger than a 42" TV, but she compromised because it does not overwhelm the room.
MrBobb's Avatar MrBobb 12:46 PM 02-08-2012
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Well my main reason for asking is that I currently have a 46" TV in that spot right now and I feel like it's a bit big. My eyes always had to scan the screen, which I didn't care for.

The decision to me is sealed by the above comment. Your own discomfort should trump all guidelines and opinions here.

Why would u expect a new TV to be different, size-wise?


BTW some TV mounts have hole(s) for a lock. Not that this will guarantee against theft but slow down the bastards at least.
rogo's Avatar rogo 01:04 PM 02-08-2012
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Will 40-42" large enough when seated 7' from the tv?

Absolutely. And you really answered your own question based on your annoyance of the slightly larger screen.

A lot of people like to avoid scanning the screen while watching in. Your preference is less common at AVS, but very very common in the "rest of world".

Good luck.
OldSchoolMETAL's Avatar OldSchoolMETAL 02:27 PM 02-08-2012
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Well my main reason for asking is that I currently have a 46" TV in that spot right now and I feel like it's a bit big. My eyes always had to scan the screen, which I didn't care for. I've had it in the same spot for months, so I was definitely used to it size wise and doubt my feelings on it's size would change at this point. It was stolen last week though, so I'm replacing it now and figured that since it seemed a bit big, I would look into the 40-42" models, and also maybe get a nice set for the same $$.

I actually tried the cardboard cutout trick last night and felt like the the 40/42" would work fine, especially the 42". It's just hard to decide without an actual image to see. I guess I'll just have to buy one and see for myself, then return it if it doesn't work out.

Your exactly right, 47" at that distance is to big. My wife sits 8' away in one position from our 47" and she finds it to be to close there. 42" is the ideal TV for that distance.
dm145's Avatar dm145 02:30 PM 02-08-2012
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your exactly right, 47" at that distance is to big. My wife sits 8' away in one position from our 47" and she finds it to be to close there. 42" is the ideal tv for that distance.

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MrBobb's Avatar MrBobb 02:49 PM 02-08-2012
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Which reminds me once sumbody asked Warren Buffett if he takes outside advice for his investment, and he said he politely has to listen once in a while but that in his preference, one advice is one too many.
OldSchoolMETAL's Avatar OldSchoolMETAL 05:23 PM 02-08-2012
Here's LGs recommendations for TV size and distance. While obviously this does not apply here, to get passive 3D to work correctly, you need to be 2X the screen size from the TV.

So with a 47" TV, you must be at a minimum distance of 7' 10". My father-in-law made the mistake of putting the TV at a bit over 7' of distance from the viewing area and had crosstalk. He now got it over 8' away and the picture is better. The point is that these TVs aren't even designed to be viewed that close.

I find the best viewing distance for the 47" is between 9' and 11' away. 7' is way to close IMO as I've seen it there first hand. Of course everyone is different but the recommendation from LG is for most people. As you, the wife had the same problem, feeling like she had to look back and forth to see the entire TV when she's at 8' away. She quickly let me know, she did not like that! I told her there's other seats in the house. So now she's about 12' away.
OldSchoolMETAL's Avatar OldSchoolMETAL 05:37 PM 02-08-2012
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BTW some TV mounts have hole(s) for a lock. Not that this will guarantee against theft but slow down the bastards at least.

I'd be more worried about my well being than the TV. For that situation, a Springfield Armory 40 caliber will do the job.
PlasmaPZ80U's Avatar PlasmaPZ80U 07:13 PM 02-08-2012
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Will 40-42" large enough when seated 7' from the tv?

Not after you get used to it. I have a 42" in the bedroom and I sit about 4-6 ft from it and it still looks too small when watching it. As a piece of furniture in the room, it does look a bit bigger though.
PlasmaPZ80U's Avatar PlasmaPZ80U 07:20 PM 02-08-2012
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Here's LGs recommendations for TV size and distance. While obviously this does not apply here, to get passive 3D to work correctly, you need to be 2X the screen size from the TV.

I find those recommendations to be too conservative. A better site is the THX one.

"If your HDTV is going in a living room with limited space, THX recommends the following:

35 inch class TV = 3.5-5 feet away
40 inch class TV = 4-6 feet away
50 inch class TV = 5-7.5 feet away
60 inch class TV = 6-9 feet way

It might seem that THX is recommending a very large screen size for your room. But, it’s important to note two things: 1) THX screen size recommendations are based on recreating an immersive cinematic experience, and 2) the biggest complaint among TV buyers is that they wish they had bought a bigger set."
jonicarter's Avatar jonicarter 08:37 PM 02-08-2012
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I went ahead and bought a 42" set today. I think I will be just fine with it. I've got the ability to easily move the tv from a 7' distance to 6' distance if I need to, so I should be set.
audio/videoman's Avatar audio/videoman 12:06 AM 02-09-2012
What brand and model? Would love to see a review.

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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I went ahead and bought a 42" set today. I think I will be just fine with it. I've got the ability to easily move the tv from a 7' distance to 6' distance if I need to, so I should be set.


jonicarter's Avatar jonicarter 08:24 AM 02-09-2012
I picked up an LG 42" LK520. Hopefully The accurate color and great price will make up for the weaker black levels. I'll be sure to let you know.
PlasmaPZ80U's Avatar PlasmaPZ80U 08:54 AM 02-09-2012
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I picked up an LG 42" LK520. Hopefully The accurate color and great price will make up for the weaker black levels. I'll be sure to let you know.

did you get the S-IPS panel?
dm145's Avatar dm145 09:06 AM 02-09-2012
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did you get the S-IPS panel?

i don't think she will care about that
jonicarter's Avatar jonicarter 09:18 AM 02-09-2012
Oh, he (I) and very concerned with getting an IPS panel. It's coming today, so provided FedEX hasn't managed to destroy it, I'll be checking the serial #/product code and crossing my fingers for the "Y" model. If not, I may just return it to Amazon and bite the higher price/sales tax bullet at Best Buy and get one. That or grab the Samsung D630 or Sony EX720. They are both on sale on Amazon right now for pretty reasonable prices.
audio/videoman's Avatar audio/videoman 02:05 PM 02-09-2012
Fedex shipped my LG face down. Seriously. I even paid for overnight delivery. Good luck.

Yeah, the samsung would be a great choice. It's discounted at both bestbuy and amazon right now, I believe.

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Oh, he (I) and very concerned with getting an IPS panel. It's coming today, so provided FedEX hasn't managed to destroy it, I'll be checking the serial #/product code and crossing my fingers for the "Y" model. If not, I may just return it to Amazon and bite the higher price/sales tax bullet at Best Buy and get one. That or grab the Samsung D630 or Sony EX720. They are both on sale on Amazon right now for pretty reasonable prices.


jonicarter's Avatar jonicarter 02:16 PM 02-09-2012
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Fedex shipped my LG face down. Seriously. I even paid for overnight delivery. Good luck.

Yeah, the samsung would be a great choice. It's discounted at both bestbuy and amazon right now, I believe.

Did it end up damaged? They just delivered mine to me here at work, and it looks fine. I won't be able to completely unbox it and test it until I get hiome with it this evening though. On the upside, it's got the AUSY product code, so at least it's an IPS panel.
OldSchoolMETAL's Avatar OldSchoolMETAL 06:23 PM 02-09-2012
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I find those recommendations to be too conservative. A better site is the THX one.

"If your HDTV is going in a living room with limited space, THX recommends the following:

35 inch class TV = 3.5-5 feet away
40 inch class TV = 4-6 feet away
50 inch class TV = 5-7.5 feet away
60 inch class TV = 6-9 feet way

It might seem that THX is recommending a very large screen size for your room. But, it's important to note two things: 1) THX screen size recommendations are based on recreating an immersive cinematic experience, and 2) the biggest complaint among TV buyers is that they wish they had bought a bigger set."

That's NUTS!

That's not even far enough for 3D to work correctly. BTW, THX recommends 3.5' for 35", 4' for 40", 5' for 50", or 6' for 60" or the screen size divided by .84 .

Those screen distances are way to close and THX recommendation is just plain wrong. Not the first time it's been. Their re-equalization on the sound track isn't to make it sound better but to make it like a theater with high frequency roll-off. There's only a few things I like with THX features.

For instance, my work computer display is 26", I sit 3' away. That is alright to read documents and prints but watching a moving object would be down right ridiculous. I would have to turn my head and roll my eyes from their extreme right to their extreme left, just to see the entire screen. NUTS. THX was not thinking straight when they came out with those ridiculous distances for such large screens. For a 26" screen, THX thinks I should even sit CLOSER at 2' 7" !!!

Each to their own, but some reason is needed.
Digital Rules's Avatar Digital Rules 06:27 PM 02-09-2012
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Each to their own, but some reason is needed.

Maybe those are the recommended distances for viewing without wearing prescription glasses.
mark62's Avatar mark62 08:23 PM 02-09-2012
i sit 8' away from my 60", wish i had a 70"...
PatrickGSR94's Avatar PatrickGSR94 09:21 PM 02-09-2012
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BTW some TV mounts have hole(s) for a lock. Not that this will guarantee against theft but slow down the bastards at least.

If the thief can't get the TV off the wall, they will likely smash the TV in anger and leave it there for you.
OldSchoolMETAL's Avatar OldSchoolMETAL 10:33 PM 02-09-2012
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I picked up an LG 42" LK520. Hopefully The accurate color and great price will make up for the weaker black levels. I'll be sure to let you know.

Just keep a dim light on in the room, and the blacks will look fine. I only see problems with blacks when there's little to no light on in the room.
karlsaudio's Avatar karlsaudio 11:58 PM 02-09-2012
6 feet away from a 5 foot wide TV! LOL!
lhslancers3270's Avatar lhslancers3270 01:15 PM 02-10-2012
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Your exactly right, 47" at that distance is to big. My wife sits 8' away in one position from our 47" and she finds it to be to close there. 42" is the ideal TV for that distance.

I sit anywhere between 5-8 feet from my set. Usually 5 feet when playing video games. 8 feet for TV and movies. I had a 42" for a couple of years just replaced that with a 47. My choice would be a 46 or 47 the 42 is kinda small especially after viewing a larger set.
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