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post #541 of 2567 Old 08-24-2012, 09:58 AM
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No. It's as close to perfect as possible. I see some darker lines on the outer edges with a grey background but haven't noticed it in anything I watch. During football I don't notice it when the screen is panning. Maybe because its darker and its on the edges. I even try to look for it and dont see it. I think because the Vizio was so aweful the Samsung seems a huge step up.

I agree. Everything about the Vizio M3Dxx0KD is pretty awful. I didn't mind the passive 3-D and the overall PQ was good to just ok at times. I'll never buy a tv based on a Cnet review again. Glad you like the EH6070. I'm still on the fence about the 55EH6070 or the 55EH6000. They're the same price right now at BB. I'm not really into the 3-D, especially active, but can't beat a free blu-ray player. The "dark lines" you were talking about; Is it more like discoloration on the left and right side of the screen? Or is it just a solid line that wraps around the whole screen about an inch from the bezel. The EH6000 has both of those issues.
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I'm currently interested in the EH6070 but don't want to buy and then a month or two later Samsung releases "new" tvs. Anyone know when Samsung will release their 2013 models or familiar with the time-frame of when (Samsung, Sony, etc..) release their TVs? Are the Samsung ES 6,7,and 8 and the EH 6,7,and 8 'it' until Jan '13?
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Anyone know the diff between EH6070 and EH6030??
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Getting ready to pull the trigger on the 6000 with the current price reductions, upgrading from a toshiba 42" plasma 5 yrs old. In your opinion, for folks who might have or have had both, is it worth it to go the extra 5"? I am in a recliner directly in front, about 15' from the screen. Thanks
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I purchased the 55EH6070 a couple of months ago to replace a 56" Samsung led dlp with a bad dlp chip. To me the difference was like seeing hd again for the very first time. I am very impressed with the picture quality. I think the price to quality ratio on this set is excellent. I'm also enjoying the 3D. The DLP that I replaced was of course 3D, but I never bothered to actually buy any of the extras needed to the 3D. This set coming with the blu-ray player and glasses were just icing on an already tasty cake.
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Anyone know the diff between EH6070 and EH6030??

It seems like the 6070 includes a blu-ray player, can't find any other differences.
http://www.amazon.com/S-/dp/B0071O4EKU/#Comparison_Chart
 
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It seems like the 6070 includes a blu-ray player, can't find any other differences.
http://www.amazon.com/S-/dp/B0071O4EKU/#Comparison_Chart
 

That's odd though. There's gotta be something different about than just the blu-ray bundle. Do you think the EH6030 is a Costco thing? I know the Eh6050 was only available through Costco.
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Samsung's site lists Sears as a retailer for both but BB as a retailer for the 6030. You're most likely right, it's probably just a bundle for stores that choose to carry it.
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Very confusing to say the least. EH6000, EH6030, EH6050, and EH6070. What exactly is the difference? From what I can tell the 6030, 6050, 6070 have a different bezel than the 6000. 6030 and 6070 are 3-D. Is that really all the diff between these models? WTH Samsung?
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Very confusing to say the least. EH6000, EH6030, EH6050, and EH6070. What exactly is the difference? From what I can tell the 6030, 6050, 6070 have a different bezel than the 6000. 6030 and 6070 are 3-D. Is that really all the diff between these models? WTH Samsung?

Got an email from Samsung and they said the main diff between EH6030 and EH6070 is the 6030 has a sleep timer function and the 6070 doesn't. Hard to believe.
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55EH6000 is on sale for $1099.00. Was thinking about the EH6070 but not sure about the active 3-D.
Anyone know how many different panel versions on the EH6000? Which one is best?
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55EH6000 is on sale for $1099.00. Was thinking about the EH6070 but not sure about the active 3-D.

I know me too. I currently have an LG 55LM7600, but the blacks aren't black and the light leakage in the corners is distracting. The passive 3D is really awesome though. I can't imagine how many hours I've spent going back n forth between TV choices. I was set on a Panasonic GT50 the other day, but I've decided I can't do plasma since I use my TV as a PC monitor. I might get the Samsung EH6000 from Amazon and compare it with the 7600 and return the loser.

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55EH6000 is on sale for $1099.00. Was thinking about the EH6070 but not sure about the active 3-D.
Anyone know how many different panel versions on the EH6000? Which one is best?

I received a HH Gregg flyer today 55' EH6000 no 3D is $999 for their Labor Day sale.
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Has anyone else done the AVS HD slides on their TV yet? What have you picked for HDMI black level? When I used my HTPC to calibrate I did the full RGB pixel format 0 -255 and chose HDMI low on the set and I was getting crushed blacks and clipped whites. Changing to RGB limited, 16 - 235, and HDMI level normal looked better and matched the settings that looked best on my DVR. But when I pick HDMI normal on my DVR input all the blacks get blown out. I'm not sure what that setting is really doing. It seems like all the settings match between my HTPC like contrast and brightness to my DVR except that one.
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Cnet reported the 55EH6070 is on sale at www.tigerdirect.com for $1199.00 after you enter their coupon code. Only good for 2 more days though. Now I'm torn between the 6000 or 6070.
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@Syntac53 - How did you configure your PC to output 1080P at 1:1 pixel? Whenever I set my PC to 1080P, it always display out of the TV. The best I can get it to fit in the TV is 1360 x 1024.

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Hey all. Just bought the 46EH6000 last night. It's the first "nice' tv I've owned, so I wasn't really sure what went into getting everything set up correctly. I used the OOB settings, and was shocked at how much motion blur there was. The stand-alone picture was unbelievably good, but whenever something moved, it blurred. After reading posts on here, I tried some other peoples' settings, and now it seems to be gone, but the picture just isn't quite as good. I think now it's just a matter of getting the settings that are right for my tv. I am going to do the AVS HD 709 calibration test right now to see if that helps. (I've heard good things). I'll report back with what I find! Did anybody else have problems with motion blur OOB? How did you fix it? Thanks!
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Hey all. Just bought the 46EH6000 last night. It's the first "nice' tv I've owned, so I wasn't really sure what went into getting everything set up correctly. I used the OOB settings, and was shocked at how much motion blur there was. The stand-alone picture was unbelievably good, but whenever something moved, it blurred. After reading posts on here, I tried some other peoples' settings, and now it seems to be gone, but the picture just isn't quite as good. I think now it's just a matter of getting the settings that are right for my tv. I am going to do the AVS HD 709 calibration test right now to see if that helps. (I've heard good things). I'll report back with what I find! Did anybody else have problems with motion blur OOB? How did you fix it? Thanks!

What AMP settings do you have it on? (Clear, Standard, or Smooth) What exactly are you seeing that has motion blur?
It could be the norm for the EH6000. I only had mine a week. Had to return it due annoying purplish tint. Maybe I didn't pay enough attention to motion-blur to notice it. You might also try a firmware update. A few other people on this thread did notice blur on the EH6000 but not on the EH6070. I believe it's the same price right now for both and you get two 3-D glasses and blu-ray player with the 6070. Good luck.
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I currently have it set to "clear." Last night, for example, I was watching tennis and noticed it every time someone made a quick move for a ball, things like that.
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I also have the 46EH. After a lot of experimentation I've found "Clear" to be the best setting for me in all my sources. Those are Netflix streaming, live TV, and DVD/Bluray + video files. The set defaulted to "Smooth" out of the box and it had the "soap opera" effect which I really disliked. On the other hand I saw that prerecorded sources in particular had too much blur. "Clear" seems to me to be a happy middle, and along with the picture calibration I did I'm now totally pleased with the PQ.

Also I'm a fan of the latest 1012 firmware, because it fixed a bug where the set would default back to another AMP setting I didn't select between power cycles.
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Just got this TV from best buy after my 2 year old (WTF????) Samsung 55" UN55B6000 died
Anyways, this took a little longer than that TV to set up but now I am extremely happy with it
First off my settings:
Using HDMI1 for DTV and HDMI 2 via AV Receiver for PS3 and Xbox 360
Mode: Standard
Game Mode: On for HDMI 2 input (consoles)
Backlight: 18-20 (I prefer 20 since I turn down the brightness)
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 37
Sharpness: 23
Color: 37 (gaming 45)
Tint: G50/R50
Color Space: Native
White Balance: Default
Gamma: 0
Dynamic Contrast: Off (Initially gives a pop but crushes blacks and blows out the whites - better to tweak with off)
Black Tone: Dark (nice little darkening without crushing any blacks in the spectrum)
Flesh Tone: 0
Motion Lighting: Off
Color Tone: Standard
Size: 16:9
Digital Noise Filter: Off
HDMI Black Level: Normal (gaming with Full Color PS3 and Expanded on Xbox 360)
Film Mode: Off
Auto Motion: Clear / Gaming Off w/ Game mode on
LED Motion: Off
Before I get into the pro's and con's first a point about the Sharpness vs Digital Noise Filter settings. I went back and forth on this but in the end I think my settings give the best detail while mitigating aliasing and bringing out detail without too much digital interference
It seems Samsung dialed up the Sharpness on the default setting to create a super sharp 'cut' to images then dialed it down with the Digital Noise Filter...the result, a blocky, flat, detail-less image... Turning off the Filter gives you back the detail of HD and then turning the sharpness down until the background noise deteriorates to a point without blurring facial features is the best way to get a super image IMHO. You can go to 5 of 10 on the sharpness but then you lose definition and the image especially facial images become blurred as if viewed through a softening filter.
Now the pro's and cons'...
Pros:
Stylish, not some wonky silver futuristic chrome crap with a stand from space
Excellent Blacks, probably the best I've seen on any HDTV LED LCD
No Clouding or Flashlighting at all (this was very pervasive on my other TV)
- I always think the TV is off now when there is a fade to black - AWESOMENESS!!!
Very crisp sharp picture once "dialed in"
Nice 'through the window' effect - due to small bezel and forward thrusting stand, 60" in your face even at 10 feet - sweet
Bright and vibrant colors
Better motion and less artifacting (screen door effect than previous TV)
Hate soap opera effect, luckily can turn off
Size is perfect...the thickness, who cares, looks better than my 'ultra thin' from the front is all I care about, plus I'm on the stand
Cons:
Somewhat smallish viewing angle. My guess is about 30 degrees to either side from eye level center screen before picture starts to fade (no biggie head on)
Not an IPS panel like my other Samsung edge lit TV, loved that feature but I guess its a sacrifice necessary for the Direct lit full array, I'll take the Direct lit since I don't watch my TV at an angle
Issue with Xbox 360 and HDMI / HDCP handshake - had to turn off display discovery on Xbox and all is fine now - otherwise signal might not be recognized as it was passed through receiver
Slight purplish edge trailing on small number of instances, mainly in dark scenes, only notice it if I'm being super anal and look for it
Other than that I'm happy with the TV and it's price bang for the buck
I'm still pissed my other Samsung died so early but what are you gonna do...made in Tijuana says it all smile.gif
Note to new users...you NEED to calibrate this TV properly, regardless of what you read about the picture out of the box being 'perfect', it needs tweaking, but once you're there.. it's awesome

After my failed calibration attempt, I tried using the settings listed above from another member, and this is by far the best it has been. I am quite satisfied with this tv now. The thing that surprises me is that a lot of his/her settings are different than what I've seen others use. Anyways, I'm very happy with these, other than some minor tweaking I might try. Thanks to whoever posted these settings.
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I'm thinking of buying one of the 6000 in a couple weeks to upgrade my 6 year old of 40" sony. The only problem is I can't decide whether to go with the 60" or 65". Just not sure if that 5" is worth an extra $600. I guess is comes down to "bigger is better" or my wallet frown.gif
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Ok, so the newest firmware update is 1012.3. Does everybody agree that this is good to do? I just want to make sure. I know sometimes firmware updates just make things worse. Thanks for you input in advance.

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I'm thinking of buying one of the 6000 in a couple weeks to upgrade my 6 year old of 40" sony. The only problem is I can't decide whether to go with the 60" or 65". Just not sure if that 5" is worth an extra $600. I guess is comes down to "bigger is better" or my wallet frown.gif

Deciding as well, 55" or 60" only $300 for me though. My wife is "encouraging" me to stick with the 55" the 60" is just "absurd" in her words. She said that too when upgrading years ago from a wega to my $2k 42" and sees no reason to upgrade the 42" 1024x768 720p. I'd hate to keep staring at the 55" and think coulda, woulda, shoulda.... then neither do I want to hear it. 55 or 60... 55 or 60... 55 or 60... 55 or 60... smile.gif
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Quick question for you. First of all, your settings were very helpful. Just bought this tv last night, and the out of box settings suffered from pretty bad blur issues while watching sports, and SOE while watching Blu-Rays. It was driving me nuts. Your settings are the only ones that make the tv work great. My question, is do you use your "game settings" (moving the color up to 45, for example) for watching Blu-Rays on the PS3 as well, or just for playing games? Thanks for your help!
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Ok, so the newest firmware update is 1012.3. Does everybody agree that this is good to do? I just want to make sure. I know sometimes firmware updates just make things worse. Thanks for you input in advance.
-Zach

As I mention above, this firmware fixes the AMP settings bug that at least some people have had, and I don't believe anyone's reported any bad side-effects from installing it. Certainly hasn't had any degradation in performance or quality on my set that I've noticed.
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Loving my 60EH6000 so far. Using it primarily as my PC monitor, with some PS3 and cable mixed in.
Absolutely had to turn "HDMI Black Level" from Low to Normal, else I'd get trails on black objects that were moving quickly, like when playing a FPS and moving the mouse around a lot. This makes the blacks less deep, but not too bad, so it's worth it. I think that setting washes out detail as well anyway. I have pretty much all of the other processing effects turned off too.
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Loving my 60EH6000 so far. Using it primarily as my PC monitor, with some PS3 and cable mixed in.
Absolutely had to turn "HDMI Black Level" from Low to Normal, else I'd get trails on black objects that were moving quickly, like when playing a FPS and moving the mouse around a lot. This makes the blacks less deep, but not too bad, so it's worth it. I think that setting washes out detail as well anyway. I have pretty much all of the other processing effects turned off too.

You need to match the settings from the PS3/Computer to the TV. If you are doing full RGB you need to set the HDMI level to Normal. If you are doing limited RGB or YCbCr set it to low. Low is 16-235 and Normal is 0 - 255. I got confused on this and messed up my settings by putting these backwards. I don't have a PS3 but I know there are settings in there for blacker than black just not sure what it's called.

Do you have NVIDIA or ATI card? Did you run the AVSHD slides to calibrate?
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You need to match the settings from the PS3/Computer to the TV. If you are doing full RGB you need to set the HDMI level to Normal. If you are doing limited RGB or YCbCr set it to low. Low is 16-235 and Normal is 0 - 255. I got confused on this and messed up my settings by putting these backwards. I don't have a PS3 but I know there are settings in there for blacker than black just not sure what it's called.
Do you have NVIDIA or ATI card? Did you run the AVSHD slides to calibrate?

Thanks for the tip. I'm feeding the TV with my nVidia GTX 570, using mini-HDMI to HDMI. I'm actually considering running it into my receiver now, since I can't get proper 5.1 over my motherboard's SPDIF-OUT.

I haven't tried the AVSHD slides, but I did use this old LCD test website to some extent. I'll take a look at the AVS HD 709 some time this week.
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Thanks for the tip. I'm feeding the TV with my nVidia GTX 570, using mini-HDMI to HDMI. I'm actually considering running it into my receiver now, since I can't get proper 5.1 over my motherboard's SPDIF-OUT.
I haven't tried the AVSHD slides, but I did use this old LCD test website to some extent. I'll take a look at the AVS HD 709 some time this week.

I'm not sure what setup you have just make sure you have the latest MB drivers. Don't quote me on this but I'm not sure video cards do audio with it or not over HDMI. I don't think mine does I have to use my MB. I had to pick some different settings to get everything working correct. It should work if you have a digital out.
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