rx, I purchased the 7600 and have similar flashlight/clouding on that set that was not present in the display. I posted my pic on the 7600 thread.
may just return it. I didnt know if this issue varies from set to set. Could the burn-in time from the display sets have eliminated this issue?
these are the first build lots from these sets so maybe some issues to work through
It's possible that after burn-in time this issue gets better. In the Panasonic DT50 review they write that there were flashlights on 60% of the screen which was gone then.
Also, what I just discovered is the TruMotion setting on this unit cannot be adjusted. Apparently, this setting is available on the LM7600 and owners have confirmed it. I contacted LG and they had no clue on the specs on the models because it was too new. I'm hoping this can be resolved with a FW update, otherwise I might be upgrading.
Since it couldn't see mkv's which is what I have most of my movies in, I tried the medialink program on the TV which connects to Plex server software that you install on your computer. The medialink program is really nice and it gives you a 10 foot interface sort of like XBMC. I was able to stream 1080p movies with Plex over wifi with no issues.
A few Media Link questions:
- Do you know if the interface changed compared to 2011?
- Does it support myPlex?
- Does it support DTS?
I also tried to use "Play To" in windows media player, and it showed the file being sent to the TV but it would never play.
Play To only works for avi files on my ST600 (maybe mp4 and wmv but I don't have any).
The light bleeding is fairly common. I have the 47 inch 6700 model and have the same issue with some bleed from the lower left and upper right corners. It is somewhat bothersome during a black screen or even a black screen with centered text (as occurs sometimes at the end of commercials), but does not affect the picture otherwise.
the window is about 40 inch tall and 60 long.
unless you guys can recommend me a good 55' smart tv with matte screen.
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Is this good? From last year we saw light rectangles on parts of the screen where a bright object is located.
47LM7600 47" Class Full HD 1080p LED LCD Cinema 3D Smart TV,_- Bundle with LG NB3520A Sound Bar Audio System, & LG AG-F216 Cinema 3D Glasses, Family Pack, 6 Pairs, includes a total of 12 pair of glasses
amazon as the 47lm6700 $1379
LG 47LM6700 47" 1080p LED Cinema 3D Smart TV, - 6 Pairs 3D Glasses Bundle - with LG NB3520A Sound Bar
- The TV itself looks stunning. The brushed aluminum frame is a fingerprint magnet however.
- PQ is great (using the TelevsionInfo settings)
- No bleeding or flashlighting
- The screen is glossy, but turning the backlight to 100 helps alot in my bright room. The positive from the glossy screen is the contrast/black levels are very good for night time viewing.
- Magic remote is actually easy and intuitive to use. It makes switching apps alot easier.
- Has anyone experienced Netflix streaming issues? I get random flashes of scrambled picture every 5-10mins. I'm fairly new to Netflix, but I never experienced this using my Panny 220 Blu-ray player. Both are hardwired to my router.
- Has anyone who recieved the package deal soundbar figured out how to control the soundbar volume with the Magic remote? It uses an optical output so ARC/CEC wont work. Can the Magic remote "learn" the commands?
For a soundbar, it's pretty good .... by no means its a substitute for a good home theater. I watched IMAX Under The Sea yesterday and the sound produced by the bar was awesome!
Note: keep in mind that this is a 5th replacement for 4 defective Samsung panels.
1) The build quality seems to be superior to what I saw with Samsung. The LG has a metal band around the panel that prevents flexing. The Samsung, OTOH, seemed flimsy.
2) Even the shipping container is better - there are hard plastic covers on the R/L edges. They are handy for removing the panel from the shipping box, and moving the panel around. No finger prints on the panel.
3) After a few days of watching various program material, the LG's picture is better than the Samsung regarding these parameters:
a) The Rec.709 color tracking is just about perfect out of the box. Skin tones are very natural. The Samsung tended towards yellow in highlighted areas of the face - not so with the LG.
b) The picture is very dynamic, and with a good source, is very film-like with depth. The Samsung was much flatter.
c) Apparent resolution/detail is equal to the Samsung
d) Picture uniformity is superior to Samsung in every way. Very little vertical banding, no apparent horizontal banding, no hot spotting, minimal flashlighting that never shows up in program material.
4) The one area that Samsung beats the LG is absolute black levels. This is well documented in the linked reviews in this thread. I'm very picky about black levels, and I do notice a difference in absolute black compared to the Samsung, but frankly, it is not an issue with any source I've watched, and careful adjustment of picture parameters can control this to my satisfaction.
e) Off axis viewing is superior to the Samsung
5) The UI is - well, interesting. The 'wand' is a bit of a challenge for me, I'm not a gamer LOLZ. Also, when dialing in picture parameters, there is too much menu on the screen. The Samsung is superior to the LG in this regard, but since it's not used every day, no big deal.
6) There is no obvious menu control for MotionFlow, this seems like a potential problem and inexcusable for a TV in this cost range. I hope a SW fix is coming soon. That said, the default setting out of the box seems to work fine for all source that I've watched so far.
7) Don't really care about the 3D capabilities, although current reviews state it's the best in class. I'll check it out this weekend
I attemped to begin the calibration process this AM:
1) I lowered the Backlight to 70. This seems to be the sweet spot - ample brightness with very little flashlighting.
2) I also set the Contrast to 70, and I see all IRE steps.
3) I set Brightness to 50. Good black levels without crush.
4) With the screen set to 1-1 pixel mapping, the sharpness for both V/H is set to 0, no need for it.
5) Color is set to 50, tint to 0
6) All other parameters are set to Off at this time. This weekend, I'll play around to see if any of them improve the picture. I doubt it, since I'm a minimalist when it comes to video.
I'd love to hear from other owners. This is definately a keeper.
Those who die with the most toys ... are still dead!
I had some time to compare the previous model with the new model as I had purchased both the new 47LM6700 model and the previous 47LW6500 model for $999 from different stores. Wasn't sure which one I was going to keep until I played around with them in my family room. Here is what I found out about the primary differences. I did not compare the wireless functunality of the TVs.
It is obvious that LG's engineers have improved the performance of two issues that were problematic with the older model, audio performance and input lag. The sound on the 6500 (same as 5600) was tinny and colored. The sound on the 6700 was more natural and balanced with more of a low end than what was capable on last year's model. This was accomplished by adding a larger encasement around the two rear speakers. If you are using your TV's audio, this may be a consideration in choosing between the two models. Although I have a nice surround system I usually only use it for movies, not when watching other programing. As an additional bonus, it appears that from other posts that LG has now included the ability to pass Dolby encoding through the audio output. The older models downcoded this into simple two channel stereo.
While I am not a gamer, my two kids are and that was also a consideration in which model to keep. I had my older son play some of his XBox 360 combat games which require quick responses and a TV with minimal input lag. It was quite obvious that the 6500/5600 model had issues with this even when in game mode and after disabling all video porcessing. The newer 6700 model showed no noticeable input lag when in game mode.
Even though the newer model has made improvements in the TV's audio and input lag the older model still had some advantages which may make it more appealing to some. For some reason the 6700 model does not allow the user to turn off or adjust Tru Motion while those capabilities were available on the 5600/6500 models. If you want this capability you will have to step up to the 7600 models. The funny thing is that I really did not notice the soap opera effect on the 6700. Additionally, sports action showed no motion blur or artifacts. Not sure what LG made the internal settings for Tru Motion on the 6700 with respect to Judder and Blur but they seem to have found a nice compromise for sports and movies. When I played with the 6500 models Tru Motion settings I noticed that when stepping up the Tru Motion to "high" I did notice the soap opera effect on movies. If you want the ability to fiddle with the Tru Motion settings then you will have to either buy the older 5600/6500 models or step up to the 7600. For me it was initially a big concern, but after watching various programming I found no real complaints on the 6700 model.
As has been stated by many others, the new models use a more reflective screen. While not as glossy as other manufacturers it does reflect more light than the matte screem employed on the older models. Ambient room light is not an issue but if your setup in your house has windows behind your viewing position or other source reflections then you may want to consider the matte screen. If most of your viewing comes in the evening or if you are able to cover the windows during the day when watching TV then this shouldn't be much a concern.
Both models have the same performance with respect to horizontal off-axis viewing, which is well below average for an LED TV. In an earlier post I had stated that the new model showed much better off axis image. After seeing both TVs in the same setting I can honestly say that they are equally bad. There is a noticeable dropoff in contrast and brightness when vewing from an angle greater than 30% off center, maybe even at 20%.
As for the so-called improvements in the 2D-3D conversion on the newer models, I can honestly say that I saw no difference at all. I would not suggest using the TVs for this capability as they end up providing some strange distorted images that could cause some nausea. On the other hand, the 3D image on both sets when watching actual 3D content was equally outstanding for both models.
Overall the pictures on both sets were equally appealing. The image that these LG sets produce are excellent. On axis or slight off axis images are in my opinion better than any other set in this price range.
1. Much better natural sound from the TV
2. Significant improvement in input lag
3. Ability to pass Dolby encoding thru audio output
1. More screen reflections than the matte screens used in older models
2. No ability to disabale or adjust Tru Motion settings
here in australia my lg55w6500 had both dolby 5.1 passthrough and dvr "time machine function enabled by default only thx modes were off in service menu,obviously lg must set these tv's up differently in the asia pacific region anyone else have any thoughts on this????
If anyone is interested Fry's has deals on the 47" LM6700 and the 55" LM6200.
thats not the 47lm6700 they are selling for $899 its the 47lw5600, which almost all Frys are out of anyways
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