Originally Posted by adb
Which ones are better in your opinion Rogo?
Most LCDs over $1000 suffer a smaller contrast drop when viewing 10-20 degrees off axis. I'm not aware of any specific model that isn't better than the ES I saw.
Generally, I do a test in store where I try to spot the contrast dropoff occurring. In our home, we have about a 20-degree angle to the TV from the side couch, middle seat, which I'd argue is a pretty realistic scenario for a lot of homes. In fact, when I've visited friends, I've actually found that few regularly watch from beyond 30 degrees (some do, just not many), but a lot of people watch in the 15-30 degree range.
[For people who need a sense of what that means, a 90-degree angle to the TV would be standing next to it along the same wall. A 0-degree is looking at it face on. I know, I know, this is obvious, right. Well, a 30-degree angle is really only 1/3 of the way from the "best seat", so it's not especially rare.]
Anyway, I start walking from the facing-on position to the side till I notice the contrast falling and then I go back to the start. I do this enough (content on TVs in stores is changing a lot, which doesn't help), until I get convinced I've found roughly the point where (a) I can notice it and (b) I can then see how bad it continues from there. On some sets, for example, the dropoff is a lot worse at 30 degrees than 20. Others, the fall is more gradual.
Last year's Samsung D8000 was nowhere near as bad as the current ES8000 from my experience with the 55" models. Yes, the D8000 had some slight apparent color shift (notably the blacks went a bit bluish), but the sense of contrast didn't fall off like this one. Some change to the color filters or polarizers or front glass must have taken place (or I suppose to the panel itself, though this seems less likely). Whatever the case, the viewing cone for the ES8000 to be enjoyed with its excellent contrast ratio is really quite small.