Originally Posted by Anthony5362
The fact that they crippled this set after CES, makes me furious! You would not believe it unless you were there at the CES show in Jan, but I swear to... That this ES8000 looked super amazing there compared to what it looks like now. I also saw the ES9000 and it wasn't called the 9000. It was the same exact 8000 we have now. Somewhere after that, Samsung decided to call it the ES9000. This is why I paid $2,700 for the 46" the day it was released without reading any reviews. I would have never spent that much for such a small TV, but I swear the ES8000 looked better than my D8000. And that was even in a extreme bright environment. This is why this is the last Samsung I will buy. When OLED comes out, I hear LG's OLED is the way to go.
Someone gave me some good advise today that deals with the company on a regular basis. They said if you want to get their attention, to write a review about the issues on their own site. They said not to give it a 5 star or even a 4 star review because it will go un noticed. They said that the executives in Korea read them.
So today, I went under my Samsung account where it shows me all my registered products with them and wrote a review on this specific 65" TV and gave it a 2 star rating and in bold I wrote, Micro dimming Ultimate not working in movie mode.. You guys can read it on their site. Also if you can rate it as helpful, it will be even better. Now, if we all write a review on their site for this TV and mention these issues, it will bring the rating down and it will get noticed by the people we want to see it.
I'm just trying to figure out ways to be on them so we can all be 100% happy with this TV. This TV has the potential to be more amazing than it is right now. It's just a matter of them putting out a Firmware update. That's all..
This information is false, completely false.
In fact, unveiled at CES this year, were the ES8000, the ES9000 and the ES9500, there has been no difference in the ES8000 from unveiling to release, claiming that they somehow neutered this set is false. In fact, from day one they unveiled it, it was known that the ES8000 didn't have the same hardware processing that the D8000 had, they never hid this.
It was clear from day 1 this year that there would be another larger screen above the 8000 that had more processing yet was still in the LED line, this held true and eventually the ES9000 was released.
OLED may eventually be what we move towards, but there's still some serious issues with it, yields are not what they should be, the burn-in/image retention is quite serious, and blacks are blotchy, it remains to be seen if this can be corrected, especially with large screens. This is why they're not moving into mainstream as fast as you'd expect
By definition, the OLED process should be easier, one can akin it to printing with an inkjet printer, but the process still has a long way to go.
As for MDU not working in movie mode, this was completely intended, and as I've mentioned before, after looking at the base firmware, it was like that from day 1, this wasn't something they went back and neutered.
The only issue here, is that we don't have the ability to turn these functions on and off at will, this funtion with MDU/Standard wouldn't be an issue for some, if there was a way to disable or lesson the effect of CE-Dimming as was possible in past years with Shadow Detail.
Every Samsung TV functions the same way, they always have, Movie mode was always susposed to be the untouched as close to unprocessed in order to reproduce an unprocessed image, this has not changed this year.
Again, the only issue here, is that there isn't a menu item in which we can toggle on and off, MDU and CE-Dimming.
There was no neutering of the TV's processing, there never was, this is false information.