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post #121 of 3960 Old 03-21-2012, 12:44 AM
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just curious why you have local dimming off?

I realized that was a mistake. So, I decided to take another go at my settings to incorporate Local Dimming.



Again, my original starting point was to run "Picture Wizard II," so if you're just starting, try that first. My recent changes are bolded.

Backlight: 100
Contrast: 75
Brightness: 58
V-Sharpness: 20
H-Sharpness: 20
Color: 60
Tint: 0
Color Temp: 0

-Expert Control-
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Super Resolution: Off [set this how you like]
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: Off [set this however you like]
xxYCC: Off
Color Filter: Off
Expert Pattern: Off
Gamma: 2.2

-Picture Option-
Noise Reduction: Off [set this how you like]
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Black Level: Low
Real Cinema: Off
Eye Care: Off
LED Local Dimming: High
TruMotion: Off



Now, I should point out that the PLAYSTATION 3 itself has three settings under "Display" that I have turned on that further enhance my picture without the need for additional color profile tweaks to my TV.

Cross Color Reduction Filter: On
RGB Full Range (HDMI): Full
Y Pb/Cb PR/Cr Super-White (HDMI): On





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does anyone know what all these settings exactly are?wondering why you have the settings you do, such as Noise Reduction, dynamic contrast off

If you're watching content that's 720p or lower, then "Noise Reduction" and "Edge Enhancer" make the content a little crisper/sharper by getting rid of some artifacts. Personally, I sit rather close to my TV and I find that it only serves to add more noticeable jaggies.

I have no idea what "Super Resolution" is meant to do, though. I haven't figured that out.

"Dynamic Contrast," though, looks to artificially boost light/dark areas to make them light colors brighter and black colors darker, but it can totally wash out flesh tones. If you're tweaking your colors manually, it's really just messing up your settings to have it on. (Unless you like it, but I personally don't.)
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does anyone know what all these settings exactly are?wondering why you have the settings you do, such as Noise Reduction, dynamic contrast off

It would be nice to have an explanation what each of the settings does. My receiver (Yamaha RX-V671) manual does a decent job explaning its settings, even though it's only supplied as a .pdf. LG's manual is junk and the user guide on the TV is no better. If anyone comes across a web site that explains the LG specific settings, please share.
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Could anyone advise if this set is better than Samsungs D7000?
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Not sure, handshaking issue?

HD still wows me, it's 3d I'm getting frustrated with

Handshaking? I received my HDMI cables through Monoprice, I explained to them my setup.

Another question? If I am not happy and wanted to return the tv to my big box retailer, they say I have 30 days, how do you go about boxing it up to return it? I have original packing but it all torn apart, they can't resell it as new, so what's the process?
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If you guys need better settings, you need to wander into the LV9500 thread. LG's settings are pretty much the same with their LEDs(give or take a couple of clicks). You'll also get Service Menu information that some will need.
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I used the picture wizard and then did my own tweaking but still not wowed by my picture? I am concerned that this is what it is, when I was expecting more? My 6 year old Sony rear projection LCD seems to have had a better picture than this. This tv is much brighter but seems less clear than the old Sony? I almost got the Samsung UN55D8000 before buying this. Looked awesome in store but decided against it due to reading about some clouding and flash lighting issues in the forums here. I have a few weeks to decide if I want to return it or not, but sale is only till Sunday. For $1999.99, same price I paid for this set. Suggestions?
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Love the picture, even despite my issues with the Tru Motion settings mysteriously disappearing!

Still awaiting LG call back on that BTW.
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Lkaukma1, can you list your settings for me? I need to try some new ones tonight and see if I can get a better picture. Thanks
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You'll also get Service Menu information that some will need.

If you wander over to the LM6700 thread (same as 7600 except 120hz) you will see that although we can access the service menu all the options are greyed out and appear unchangable. I would assume its the same with the 7600 too.
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Guys I am torn here.. Not sure I like the picture on this set. What are your opinions on exchanging for the Samsung un55D8000 set? Looks great in store

Went and got it. On close out now in stores. I will fire it up and take Back whichever one I am least happy with.
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Guys I am torn here.. Not sure I like the picture on this set. What are your opinions on exchanging for the Samsung un55D8000 set? Looks great in store

Went and got it. On close out now in stores. I will fire it up and take Back whichever one I am least happy with.

I'm just not ready for active 3D. I don't like the expense of more glasses than come with the set and the fact they have to be recharged. I probably won't watch alot of 3D, but I think I'll stick with passive for now. Also, if I remember the Samsung screen is more glossy which would be a negative for my viewing conditions. I'll keep trying to get this picture adjusted. I have the Disney WOW screen calibration Blu-Ray disc coming tomorrow. I hope I can get good results with it. Still have 2 and a half weeks to return if I have to.
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I'm just not ready for active 3D. I don't like the expense of more glasses than come with the set and the fact they have to be recharged. I probably won't watch alot of 3D, but I think I'll stick with passive for now. Also, if I remember the Samsung screen is more glossy which would be a negative for my viewing conditions. I'll keep trying to get this picture adjusted. I have the Disney WOW screen calibration Blu-Ray disc coming tomorrow. I hope I can get good results with it. Still have 2 and a half weeks to return if I have to.

Where did you buy yours from?
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If you wander over to the LM6700 thread (same as 7600 except 120hz) you will see that although we can access the service menu all the options are greyed out and appear unchangable. I would assume its the same with the 7600 too.

Find a gentleman by the name "nony" in the LV9500 thread or the 55LHX thread. He knows everything about the service menus of LG. He may be able to help.
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Got my 55" hooked up yest. I seem to get a lot of motion blur pixelation.. Like at people's hands when they move them and even at the edges of people if they are walking fast. This is on cable thru an hdmi. Input says I'm getting 1080i 60hz. Havnt tried any movies thru my ps3 yet. Never noticed this on my 5 year old hitachi 42" plasma.. Any ideas?
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Find a gentleman by the name "nony" in the LV9500 thread or the 55LHX thread. He knows everything about the service menus of LG. He may be able to help.

Heh Thanks, will do good sir
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Where did you buy yours from?

Best Buy. Picked it up myself.
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Picked up the Samsung un55d8000 today and hooked it up. Wow! Nice picture out of the box. The LG is going back tomorrow.
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Picked up the Samsung un55d8000 today and hooked it up. Wow! Nice picture out of the box. The LG is going back tomorrow.

Thanks for starting the thread anyways! How about a comparison between the two for us?
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Picked up the Samsung un55d8000 today and hooked it up. Wow! Nice picture out of the box. The LG is going back tomorrow.

Let me know what you think about the active glasses. Do they weigh more? Can you hear the shuutering? etc.
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I know this is the LM7600 thread but like last year the model down, in this case the 6700, is probably very similar. A full review of the 47LM6700 has just been posted.

http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...DTV-Review.htm
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I know this is the LM7600 thread but like last year the model down, in this case the 6700, is probably very similar. A full review of the 47LM6700 has just been posted.

http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...DTV-Review.htm

Great Find. My 7600 comes tomorrow. With this raving review from the experts on the 6700, I can only imagine that the 7600 will be slightly better.

Sorry to all the folks that don't like the 3D or think it's not better than last years models. These guys think differently. They seem to love the remote for accessing all the internet content, instead of pushing the up\\down left\
ight buttons a hundred times. The search feature seems pretty amazing, as well.

Calibration settings are in this article, though for the 6700. I'm guessing it's pretty close to the 7600.

I should have a review of this set over the weekend. Until then enjoy whatever purchase you make.
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Ran a new hdmi cable thru the wall and hooked up my ps3 to try a blue ray last night. Input shows 1080p 240hz. Blur is slightly better.. After some tweaking, I'm real happy with everything else about the picture but the blurring is hard to take. Is this normal and I'm just being to picky? Or should there not be any noticible pixel blurring around someone simply walking.. Is plasma still better at this? Thanks

Look forward to hearing your thoughts graz..
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anyone know of a way to organize the Inputs listed?

all of my media servers (Windows, DirectV, etc ) are listed first and I have to go over 2 to 3 pages over to find the basic HDMI inputs for TV and PS3.

It would be nice to program a quick way to switch inputs on the remote (is there a way?). Shouda been an input button on the motion controller or a programmable button.
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As I posted in another thread, comparing the Samsung D8000 to the LG 7600 is unfair. The D8000 was Samsungs flagship model for 2011, so of course it's going to look great.

The LG LM7600 is a mid range model.

A more fair comparison would be the D8000 vs the LG LM8600 or better yet the LM9600.

Samsung D8000 (flagship for 2011):
-Edge LED with dimming
-240hz
-Active 3D
-Smart TV

LG LM9600 (flagship for 2012):
-Backlit LED with TRUE local dimming
-480hz (240hz with scanning backlight)
-Passive 3D
-Smart TV with dual core chip
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As I posted in another thread, comparing the Samsung D8000 to the LG 7600 is unfair. The D8000 was Samsungs flagship model for 2011, so of course it's going to look great.

The LG LM7600 is a mid range model.

A more fair comparison would be the D8000 vs the LG LM8600 or better yet the LM9600.

Samsung D8000 (flagship for 2011):
-Edge LED with dimming
-240hz
-Active 3D
-Smart TV

LG LM9600 (flagship for 2012):
-Backlit LED with TRUE local dimming
-480hz (240hz with scanning backlight)
-Passive 3D
-Smart TV with dual core chip

Following your logic, a more "fair" comparison would be Samsung ES8000 (flagship for 2012) vs LG LM9600.

I think people are comparing D8000 to LM7600 because their pricepoints are similar at this time, which makes the comparison "fair" in some aspects.

anyway, hopefully televisioninfo could do a thorough review on 7600 as well since they did review both Samsung EH5000 and EH6000 recently.
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Following your logic, a more "fair" comparison would be Samsung ES8000 (flagship for 2012) vs LG LM9600.

I think people are comparing D8000 to LM7600 because their pricepoints are similar at this time, which makes the comparison "fair" in some aspects.

anyway, hopefully televisioninfo could do a thorough review on 7600 as well since they did review both Samsung EH5000 and EH6000 recently.

Good point.

I look forward to seeing a side by side comparison of the ES8000 and LG LM9600. I'm usually a Samsung fan, but the LM9600 is starting to look good.
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Well LG cannot figure out why I do not have the Tru motion options available on my pictures settings, so another set on the way.

Still in love with the tv BTW. Watched Tron in HD last night and was blown away by the picture and surround sound from the Onkyo 609.
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some one be kind enough to post a unboxing video :-p

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Received the Disney World of Wonder (WOW) calibration DVD. After running the Basic followed by the Advanced calibrations I Love my Picture! My settings are as follows:

Backlight: 75-100 depending of room brightness
Contrast: 92
Brighness: 58
H. Sharpness: 0
V. Sharpness: 0
Color: 53
Tint: 0

Expert Control:
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Super Resolution: Off
Color Gamut: Standard (Really haven't messed with this one)
Edge Enhancer: Off
Color Filter: Off
Gamma: 2.2

Picture Options:
Everything Off except
Black Level: Low
Local Dimming: High

I highly recommend the WOW DVD for DIY calibration. I may invest in a professional calibration yet, depends on price and if they have access to additional settings that I don't. I haven't gone into the White Balance or Color Management options that I do have access to.

Any input out there on professional calibration costs (ballpark figures, I know it will vary) or if they have access to additional settings on this particular TV?
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Has anyone tested the DLNA media streaming over their home network? The wording on LGs website has me concerned that the DLNA is not standards based and only works with certain 3rd party proprietary software on windows.

http://www.lg.com/us/support-product/lg-55LM7600# (under the software update tab)

"To use DLNA, the PC needs to have Nero MediaHome 4 Essentials."

I have my media on a NAS device specifically to avoid needing a computer to do the streaming. Currently I stream to my XBOX 360 directly from the NAS. Going directly to the TV would be nice though.

If anyone could test that would be great!
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