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post #61 of 326 Old 03-27-2012, 06:46 PM
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I have this tv! My LG lv9500 just has diffrent numbers!

Trust me, the 9500 is not even close!
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I can't believe I have to wait 5 months to get this TV. Granted, I have a new D8000 to keep my occupied but still...I have no patience lol
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I can't believe I have to wait 5 months to get this TV. Granted, I have a new D8000 to keep my occupied but still...I have no patience lol

I thought the 9600 just came out? Anyone know how this will compare with the xbr 929? How many dimming zones? Screen finishing etc?
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I thought the 9600 just came out? Anyone know how this will compare with the xbr 929? How many dimming zones? Screen finishing etc?

Unfortunately no. My friend who's a manager @ PC Richard told me his buyer said April. Then I emailed LG and they said it will hit the market by August. The LM7600 came out a couple of weeks ago but I'm going to wait on this one, as it seems to be a better TV all around.
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It seems like a few websites still have the 55LM9600 as hitting retail in April. I really hope that's true. Maybe the guy who wrote me back from LG thought I was talking about a different model? He did say the "LM9600", but that could mean the 60LM9600, which is slated for August. And now I see OLED may be out in 2 months? Yea this is not making any sense =/


*EDIT* Alrighty! Just did a live chat with LG. I asked if the websites & my manager friend were correct about April release for the 55LM9600. She said yes. The 55LM9600 will hit retail Mid April-June 2012. I said thank you and that I had a feeling the Email response I had received prior must've been a miscommunication with the size of the model in question. She said, yes, sometimes that happens and that she's sorry for the misunderstanding. The 60LM9600 is scheduled for release August-October 2012. She then threw in that the 60LM6200 (?) was cancelled. I was like WT?? lol Anyways....Get your pennies ready =]
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Trust me, the 9500 is not even close!

Let me think on this!LG LV9500 led nano lcd,480 Hertz,local dimming? OH!yes and 3D!
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Let me think on this!LG LV9500 led nano lcd,480 Hertz,local dimming? OH!yes and 3D!

You are not the only one that owns the LV9500, I also have one.
It uses a completely differant panel.
It is a tricked up Active 3D
After I viewed the LM9600 at CES I regretted the purchase.
They are not close in picture quality.
Don't get me wrong, the 9500 is a great set for the money we spent and throw in 3D.
But the LM9600 I saw at CES was stunning.
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Yea..It's the same TV w/same tech a year later
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I'm a bit nervous about LG to be honest, how is the greyscale tracking and color accuracy? I know a few years ago they had issue but a few years is a LONG time in the tv world right now.

Hometheater Magazine's review of the LG LX9500: http://www.hometheater.com/content/l...-labs-measures
"The final color tracking was one of the best we've seen from any video display, with a Delta E of less than 1.4 at three points and less than 1.0 elsewhere."

CNET's review o the LG LX9500:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...=rvwBody;page2
"Shadow detail was also excellent on the LX9500. The interior of the Batmoble in Chapter 2 revealed subtle details on the steering column and dashboard computer ("INTIMIDATE"!), details that weren't visible on the Samsungs or the Sony.
Color accuracy: The LX9500 again performed extremely well in this department. Around the restaurant table in Chapter 5, for example, the skin tones of Rachel and Dent were closer to our reference than any of the other TVs, with the exception of the Vizio, where they looked nearly identical. The LG beat the saturation of the Vizio by just a bit, however, thanks to its deeper black levels. The LG's primary and secondary color accuracy also showed through on Rachel's red dress, along with the green of the pool table felt (Chapter 9) and the cyan of the sea and sky (Chapter 10).
As with the LE8500, the LX9500's black areas remained relatively true as opposed to dipping into blue, as we saw on the Sony and the UNC8000. The Vizio was also slightly worse than the LG in this area, but the difference wasn't drastic."

I woud say that LG tvs have the best grayscale and color accuracy of all brands.
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Now that it's April, any hints on the 55" release date?
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Now that it's April, any hints on the 55" release date?

I think we're looking at mid April to early May for this set. That is if what LG said to me in that live chat is correct. Also, PC Richard usually posts TV's a couple of weeks in advance on their site, for pre-order. They have the Sammy PNXXE8000 and the Panasonic VT50 up as shipping this month. I guess we'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
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Thanks. Looking forward
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ANy guesses on the pricing, when they are released in April?
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ANy guesses on the pricing, when they are released in April?

The MSRP is $3299 but I'm sure it will be lower
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I don't want to turn this into a plasma vs. LCD/LED debate, but I was just getting ready to pull the trigger on a new Panasonic VT50 55" plasma when I read about this 55" LM9600 set. Now I'm wondering if I should just hold off for a bit and see if this one lives up to the hype. I've read a lot of comments from disappointed people in the 7600 thread, but since the 9600 is full array LED I'm guessing it will be a totally different beast.
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The LM9600 has 24 local dimming zones. Sometimes, less is more.

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The LM9600 has 24 local dimming zones. Sometimes, less is more.

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The LM9600 has 24 local dimming zones. Sometimes, less is more.

-nony

Considering that last years LW9800 had 288 zones, I'm pretty sure that the LM9600 has more zones, not less.

The blooming on an LED with only 24 zones would be crazy.
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The LV9500 has 280 zones! with 24 zones for the 9600 you are right it is not the same tv!
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Considering that last years LW9800 had 288 zones, I'm pretty sure that the LM9600 has more zones, not less.

The blooming on an LED with only 24 zones would be crazy.

LW9800 had 96 zones.
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The new Nano LED panel is the same on models LEX8, LW980, LW9500 and LE960? Why change the number of areas managed? It is a matter HW, SW or commercial?

The panel, understood as the LCD, is the same, but the backlight changes. This year the number of LEDs is lower because there has been progress in this field and the new LEDs are more efficient. In 2012 Nano LEDs are managed only 24 blocks, less than last year, but the video output is very similar. Last year, with 2000 LED and all those areas we have searched for a solution "Premium" but had very high costs, this year we found an excellent balance between quality and cost of production.

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He is indeed correct, intact LG said 24 zones will not be noticeable to the "average" consume lol

Then said its cheaper to do so?

So, they sell us the same panel as clarified in the article, the same tech as last year, then remove some of the features and make it worse, give it worse black levels (confirmed by reviews posted here so far) and an inability to calibrate to reference BT.709 (as confirmed by review in here) ... And finally charge us MORE for la privelage.

Go figure...

But I suspect the fans will still buy them in their drones, and yet gain people will accept sub standard quality and produce at these new horrific prices.

Unfortunatly the fools/sheep out number those of us who desire a higher level of quality in our products.

Shame...
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So last years model is potentially better?
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Geez, maybe it is time for me to finally give up and buy a 55LHX from a few years back ... really disappointed that this set appears to be headed for "epic fail" status.
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What in the....You guys are shooting down my hopes for this set. The review in the OP sounded nothing short of positive. I haven't read any other reviews of this set....someone post some links.
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Where do you read something about dimming zones?

They are telling that they reduced the LEDs from 2000 (last year) to 24 nano blocks as the now used LEDs are more efficient.
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Where do you read something about dimming zones?

They are telling that they reduced the LEDs from 2000 (last year) to 24 nano blocks as the now used LEDs are more efficient.

Last year 96 block were present, this year only 24 block according to article.

Less LEDs this year, less nano blocks / dim able zones this year.


There is also a calibrator on here (THX Certifed) who calibrated this 960 and said it was impossible to get even close to 709 and was really bad.

They also said that the black leves were worse than the 980T to compensate for haloing (raise the black level to a greyer level = reduce haloing)

Plus this review confirms the same tech, same LCD panel and other users in the 7600 thread for example are returning sets for backlight bleed, torchlighting etc again issues same as last year

I think this is a cleansing of old stock in a new frock before they scap it altogether for OLED...

980 users got robbed, same gain anyone? They will sell like hot cakes though which is a shame, as it just perpetuates this acceptance of low quality tech in a sexy design Rather than genuinely good Kuro level blacks and fast response etc in an ever age looking shell...

Shame...
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Last year 96 block were present, this year only 24 block according to article.

Less LEDs this year, less nano blocks / dim able zones this year.


There is also a calibrator on here (THX Certifed) who calibrated this 960 and said it was impossible to get even close to 709 and was really bad.

They also said that the black leves were worse than the 980T to compensate for haloing (raise the black level to a greyer level = reduce haloing)

Plus this review confirms the same tech, same LCD panel and other users in the 7600 thread for example are returning sets for backlight bleed, torchlighting etc again issues same as last year

I think this is a cleansing of old stock in a new frock before they scap it altogether for OLED...

980 users got robbed, same gain anyone? They will sell like hot cakes though which is a shame, as it just perpetuates this acceptance of low quality tech in a sexy design Rather than genuinely good Kuro level blacks and fast response etc in an ever age looking shell...

Shame...

When you have the time, can you please post links to the reviews for this TV? From my understanding, everyone who has seen this TV says the PQ is fantastic. One guy on this thread said the PQ on the display model at CES was almost as good as the OLED. There have also been plenty of previews on many different sites (Cnet, televisioninfo, ect.) that have also said that the LM9600 was great.

What you are posting is worrying me. Originaly, I was planning to get either the ES8000 or the LM9600. After reading through the ES8000 forum, it seems that most ES8000 owners are not satisfied with the ES8000. This narrowed it down to just the LM9600, which I have heard nothing but great things about...until now.

I really hope TV manufacturers have not traded PQ for faster "smart TV" features.
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When you have the time, can you please post links to the reviews for this TV? From my understanding, everyone who has seen this TV says the PQ is fantastic. One guy on this thread said the PQ on the display model at CES was almost as good as the OLED. There have also been plenty of previews on many different sites (Cnet, televisioninfo, ect.) that have also said that the LM9600 was great.

What you are posting is worrying me. Originaly, I was planning to get either the ES8000 or the LM9600. After reading through the ES8000 forum, it seems that most ES8000 owners are not satisfied with the ES8000. This narrowed it down to just the LM9600, which I have heard nothing but great things about...until now.

I really hope TV manufacturers have not traded PQ for faster "smart TV" features.

Certainly.

This was calibrated completed by an AVSForum member who is a registered and recognised THX Certified Calibrator. It was a very very poor tv to calibrate and got no where near 709 reference very poor coulour and too low luminance.

http://forum.realhd.co.kr/xe/lcd/4582 (you may need to google translate)

This thread is where it was located.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1371877&page=4

The other forum members of the 7600 (about 2 threads above this one currently) have replaced numerous sets due to back light issues, uniformity, banding, bleeding, torchlighting etc...

Also 6700 users have experience same issue. Many returned those sets too.

I no say they all bad tv, But as LG say same tech, same panel, same specs and same hardware (with costs cutting features such as reduce dimming blocks) and now we see return of 2011 issues!
I think they look great but are a complete fabrication of the real intention which is to fleece users quickly with pretty device and move onto OLED, otherwise we would have see NEW tech for 2012 not REHASH!

I not say all are are bad, I feel though that this tv is not what we are led to believe. Good tv yea, fine tv yea... But no great tv as price would suggest.

Buy with caution and really think about what you spend thousands of euros/dollars on.
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