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So today is supposedly the day this TV goes live? I guess we'll see......
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I really hope this TV is as good as it sounds. It sucks that no other major company has a backlit LED TV this year (so far).

What TV would youguys get if the LM9600 turns out bad?
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I really hope this TV is as good as it sounds. It sucks that no other major company has a backlit LED TV this year (so far).

What TV would youguys get if the LM9600 turns out bad?

Well i've got a shortlist of 3 tv's. This one and the other 2 are panny's. The VT50 and WT50. The VT50 has been given very good reviews so far, just waiting for reviews on this and the WT50 so I can decide if I will purchase one of them!
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I could care less about the sound quality on this model. Seriously if someone is gonna spend $3k on this tv, they should be able to spend at least $1200 on a good 5.1+ surround system.

Even less on a good sound bar / sub
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Even less on a good sound bar / sub

That too!
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The good news is that it seems like the LM9600 will live up to it's expectations. I have yet to see any bad reviews so far.

The even better news is that if the LM9600 does turn out bad (and the revies so far were all wrong about its great PQ), Samsung will be launching more high end LED TVs in August along with their OLED. Hopefully they will launch a backilt LED.
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http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/revi...5lm9600/421881

According to the reviewer, the 55lm9600 has only 24 dimming zones...
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The 55LHXs get to go for another year!
Usually when moving up, one is usually moving away from current problems to less problems - not the other way around! Which appears to be the case last year, and now this year!
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The good news is that it seems like the LM9600 will live up to it's expectations. I have yet to see any bad reviews so far.

I wouldn't call the review Mike50 posted a bad one per se, but it's certainly not as positive as I was hoping for especially considering the revelation about 24 local dimming zones.

Looks like my field of 2 candidates(this TV and the Panasonic ST50) has just been narrowed to a field of one.
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I wouldn't call the review Mike50 posted a bad one per se, but it's certainly not as positive as I was hoping for especially considering the revelation about 24 local dimming zones.

Looks like my field of 2 candidates(this TV and the Panasonic ST50) has just been narrowed to a field of one.

You call that a review, it was a nothing post. He looked at it in a store and gave his unprofessional opinion without checking the signal source or anything. He maybe works for Sony.

I give you two months and you will be back here wishing you got this set if it is anything like what I saw at CES!
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http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/revi...5lm9600/421881

According to the reviewer, the 55lm9600 has only 24 dimming zones...

I guess you are right,the LG LV 9500 is not the same as the LG 9600,it's better and half the price!
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I've posted this video before (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2265tHCVs). This is an explanation of the nano tech from last year. If it's true that LG has improved the nano tech for this years TVs then there is no way they can keep a set up like the one in the video, with only 24 zones.

I have heard 3 figures for dimming zones.

1. Very low 24 zones: Personally I think this might be a miscommunication. I don't see any reason why LG would make their "flagship TV" have only 24 zones. Also this would create an insane amount of blooming. I personally think it's more probable that the LG TV's equiped with "LED Plus" (LM8600, LM7600 ect.) have 24 dimming zones as they are edge lit.

2. 96 Zones: This could be right.

3. More zones than last year: This is what LG reps told people at CES. I think this is probably the truth.

At the end of the day, no one really seems to know for sure how many dimming zones this TV has. Also LG as a business would be stupid to reveal how many dimming zones this TV has.

So far, reviews for this TV have been great. Every review has praised this TV's black levels, color, and overall PQ.

I think we all need to remember that there is no such thing as a perfect TV (yet). We shouldn't write off the LM9600 until we see it in person. IMO the 9600 is the best flagship this year (and I'm a Samsung fan).
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The good news is that it seems like the LM9600 will live up to it's expectations. I have yet to see any bad reviews so far.

The even better news is that if the LM9600 does turn out bad (and the revies so far were all wrong about its great PQ), Samsung will be launching more high end LED TVs in August along with their OLED. Hopefully they will launch a backilt LED.

Where did you find one real review?
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Where did you find one real review?

There are 3 reviews that I know of (other than the one by the thread starter):

1. Cnet Asia (good review): http://asia.cnet.com/product/lg-55lm...d-45879816.htm

2. Whathifi (good review other than sound quality and price): http://www.whathifi.com/review/lg-55lm960v

3. Goodgearguide (good review): http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/revi...5lm9600/421881

In my opinion, these reviews don't provide enough info to decide weather or not to buy this set.

The main problem with these reviews is that they are inconsistant. For example, Cnet Asia praises the sound quality, while Whathifi complains about poor sound quality. There should be more reviews when the TV comes out in more countrys. Personally, I can't wait for the flatpanelhd, televisioninfo and cnet (US) reviews. If those sites give it a good rating then I will buy it.
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I guess you are right,the LG LV 9500 is not the same as the LG 9600,it's better and half the price!

I have been telling you that for weeks
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In my opinion, these reviews don't provide enough info to decide weather or not to buy this set.

Where are you seeing a real review?

These are better description leaflets but not a real review.
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Where are you seeing a real review?

These are better description leaflets but not a real review.

I agree that these are not real reviews, but they do give us more information and impressions. I don't think we will see a real review (like the reviews on televisioninfo and flatpanelshd), until the TV has been out for at least a month.
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Found a new review. You might have to use google translator unless you understand Dutch. This review gives a little more detail than the other reviews so far. The review is overall pretty good. However, there were some complaints such as price.

According to some other AV forums, LG is putting out a software update to adress some of the current complaints with this set such as problems with the local dimming. Hopefully we will see some reviews with the updated firmware soon.

http://tweakers.net/reviews/2518/1/l...-van-oled.html
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Quote from the Dutch Review:
"The biggest problem is that the local dimming system in its current form is not very effective. Probably have the LG engineers after criticizing the visible led-zones of the LW980s tried to the transitions between the led zones so fluent as possible. As a result, black areas not, however, good, and because there is even a Dim ips-Panel with relatively poor black is used with the LM960V values, LG has not determined the golden mean found."

My comment:
CNET previously, and now the Dutch reviewers both making the same error in their calibrations.
Previous LG Models set the Brightness to Not turn off at a value of 52. With the New LGs, this value is now 50. Both CNET and the Dutch reviewers set their Brightness at 52 - this does cause the beginning of milky blacks. The reviews might be more positive if they set Brightness to the new value of 50.
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I received a confirmation from LG that the 47LM9600 will not be available in the US at this time. Only the 55" and 60" will be with the 84" coming later. But no word on the exact date of release for these. This is sad news as the 55" is too big for my TV viewing area. Looks like I may have to settle for the 47LM8600.
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I received a confirmation from LG that the 47LM9600 will not be available in the US at this time. Only the 55" and 60" will be with the 84" coming later. But no word on the exact date of release for these. This is sad news as the 55" is too big for my TV viewing area. Looks like I may have to settle for the 47LM8600.

What the hell. Now I don't know what TV to get........

Any word when it will be available?
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I received a confirmation from LG that the 47LM9600 will not be available in the US at this time. Only the 55" and 60" will be with the 84" coming later. But no word on the exact date of release for these. This is sad news as the 55" is too big for my TV viewing area. Looks like I may have to settle for the 47LM8600.

That sucks, that was the TV I was going to get. I hope that LG rep was wrong. It really sucks that there are no other backlit local dimming TV's this year besides the 9600. It would be nice if we had something else to choose if the LM9600 is bad or it never comes out.

Too bad Sharp doesn't make a 46" version of their elite.
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Yea, I was a bit upset. They will be selling the 55" and up, but that might be just a bit too big for me mainly because my viewing distance is only 6-10 ft. I would think 55" would be too big for that close with 47" pushing it? Anyone have any experience with this?
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That sucks, that was the TV I was going to get. I hope that LG rep was wrong. It really sucks that there are no other backlit local dimming TV's this year besides the 9600. It would be nice if we had something else to choose if the LM9600 is bad or it never comes out.

Too bad Sharp doesn't make a 46" version of their elite.

There's still the Sony XBR-46HX929 as a backlit local dimming TV option.
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Yea, I was a bit upset. They will be selling the 55" and up, but that might be just a bit too big for me mainly because my viewing distance is only 6-10 ft. I would think 55" would be too big for that close with 47" pushing it? Anyone have any experience with this?

In my room, my viewing is about 8 feet. In my wife's loft, about 9 to 12 feet, depending whether she's on the couch, or at her computer station. Basement viewing, again about 8 to 10 feet.. My daughter's basement area - about between 6 to 8 feet. This weekend, she told me she can't watch the 42" anymore, after getting used to the 55". If you've got a great picture, you always want bigger.
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Don't give up hope yet, the 47" is still on the Canada LG site.

http://www.lg.com/ca_en/tv-audio-vid...v-47LM9600.jsp
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In my room, my viewing is about 8 feet. In my wife's loft, about 9 to 12 feet, depending whether she's on the couch, or at her computer station. Basement viewing, again about 8 to 10 feet.. My daughter's basement area - about between 6 to 8 feet. This weekend, she told me she can't watch the 42" anymore, after getting used to the 55". If you've got a great picture, you always want bigger.

I guess I was thinking the wrong way. There is a maximum as far as TV size. I always thought the bigger TVs would show the pixelation too much if you were too close. After reading some more and then your post I guess a 55" would be fine for me.

If Canada has the 47", can it be ordered from there for shipping to the US or are the TVs not useable between the two countries? I do not know much about that.
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I guess I was thinking the wrong way. There is a maximum as far as TV size. I always thought the bigger TVs would show the pixelation too much if you were too close. After reading some more and then your post I guess a 55" would be fine for me.

If Canada has the 47", can it be ordered from there for shipping to the US or are the TVs not useable between the two countries? I do not know much about that.

If the US doesn't see the 47", I doubt Canada will either.
Warranty - fine if no problems, but one of my 55LHXs blew a board due to a bad HDMI cable. Since I imported it from the US, wife drove it down to Buffalo for warranty repairs, then returned the next weekend to pick it back up. She didn't mind - cross border shopping opportunity gave her a reason. So, if anything happens, are you prepared to truck the TV back up to Canada for repairs? (Of all my LG TVs, this was the only time I had to do warranty work, and it wasn't the TV's fault.)
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Good point...I may have to spend a little more and get the 55" if I want the LM9600. I think it will be better than the LM8600 and probably worth it.
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