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post #91 of 392 Old 06-11-2012, 01:30 PM
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Where is the 7200u being sold at? Have not seen it anywhere.
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I would really appreciate if any of guys would be able to do an input lag test.

I haven't done a lag test, however I know what lag is as I play battlefield 3 on ps3, COD ect first person shooters, and I notice no lag at all in game mode. I have played on various LG LM series, Some samsungs UN model led that had noticeable lag issues.

This toshiba has no lag. Hence the Game mode that they describe for lightning fast trigger. I have to agree it's great. I would notice in those games I play If there was bad lag because it would be going back Amazon as I game a lot and an important feature I need.
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How does the 6200u series compare to the 5200u series. Are the panels the same?

I ask because the 50" 50l5200u is going for $899 right now and for a 50" LED tv that seems like an awesome deal. I can live without the 3D and internet apps and features if the 5200u series is just about the same thing PQ wise, minus 3D and internet apps. i Would assume the 50" 5200u panel is AU Optronics as well correct? or is the AU Optronics panels only relegate to the 6200/7200 series?
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How does the 6200u series compare to the 5200u series. Are the panels the same?
I ask because the 50" 50l5200u is going for $899 right now and for a 50" LED tv that seems like an awesome deal. I can live without the 3D and internet apps and features if the 5200u series is just about the same thing PQ wise, minus 3D and internet apps. i Would assume the 50" 5200u panel is AU Optronics as well correct? or is the AU Optronics panels only relegate to the 6200/7200 series?

my understanding is the 55" L6200U and 55" L7200U panels are both the same with a glass screen, the other models below these are matte screen. But as far as the same brand of AU I'm not sure.


** Also a new Firmware update has been put up for the 55L6200U listed as 6-06-12 see Toshiba support pages for this model***
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how about PC mode lag and 4:4:4 test? biggrin.gif
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I haven't done a lag test, however I know what lag is as I play battlefield 3 on ps3, COD ect first person shooters, and I notice no lag at all in game mode. I have played on various LG LM series, Some samsungs UN model led that had noticeable lag issues.
This toshiba has no lag. Hence the Game mode that they describe for lightning fast trigger. I have to agree it's great. I would notice in those games I play If there was bad lag because it would be going back Amazon as I game a lot and an important feature I need.

Yes, i know, toshiba even mentions the good response time in game mode in the feature list, so i guess it has to be pretty good.
However, i really would like to see a number.
Can i not tempt you to do a small input lag test?
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Anyone know the price of the 47' 7200u or know where I can look one up?
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www.tigerdirect.ca paid 1299.99 Canadian for 47L7200U 3 weeks ago. TV is very good. Now price is a little higher. Try to negotiate in store.
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www.tigerdirect.ca paid 1299.99 Canadian for 47L7200U 3 weeks ago. TV is very good. Now price is a little higher. Try to negotiate in store.

Must be out of stock in Canada and the US. Only seeing the 6200 in the US.
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Well my 55l6200u came today ...Can't say much due to the fact the screen was Fawked up the whole top right corner cracked then the crack runs about 8-10 inches down the screen...I dunno if fedex did it or what but its a sad day

Update: Went to tigerdirect and they price matched it so far so good couple of things usb drive don't even know how to access it and, I would really like to see whats in the service menu any clue how to get in it tried the whole mute 3 times and menu no luck
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My 55ll2600U came a few days ago, shipped ffom Paul's TV, easy to unpack and set-up. I am using a Panasonic Blue-Ray home theater system connected thru the arc hdmi connection and a Direct TV box in hdmi 2.

The home network connected up quickly and easily., i simply entered my password and I'm in. Pushed the Netflix button and i'm at my home page streming content thru my cable modem.

The picture quality viewing HD content is stunning, absolultly no blurring or soap opera effects at all. Rich colors and deep blacks, just a great picture all around. The 3-D channels are amazing, I don't see how it could be any better. I could not get the I-Max Hubble 3-D disc to format properly tho, double side to side images only. i tried both side to side and top to bottom options with no luck. It's the only 3-D disc i have so I.m not sure what's up.

The standard def pq varies with the channel, I avoid it if at all possible.There is enough HD content to satisfy me.

I don't have any type of video game player hooked up so I can't comment on that as I play computer games only on another 55 inch Sony SXRD.

Netlix is the only internet content i use, no complaints there.

Alll in all I'm very happy with this set so far, for what I paid it"s gotta be one of the best buys around.
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Im liking the tv looks about the same as my lm8600 no halos, but some light bleeding on right side frown.gif .... Do not care for them 3d glasses checked best buys site for some they want way to much, So if anyone looking for some cheapest i found was Sams Club polaroid ones for $9.86 nice style and bigger can't beat that!! Can anyone tell me how to get into service menu please googled my fingers off
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I ordered the TV (55L6200) last Wednesday from Walmart.com. I called today and the item was "lost in transit", and now the item is out of stock. The shipping company has no information of the package, makes me wonder if they had it to begin with.
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So from what I am noticing the l7200u is only a canadian product? Apparently Toshiba and Toshiba Canada are two totally different companies?? I am confused at this point.
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I ordered the TV (55L6200) last Wednesday from Walmart.com. I called today and the item was "lost in transit", and now the item is out of stock. The shipping company has no information of the package, makes me wonder if they had it to begin with.
Go to tigerdirect if you can and buy it they price matched walmart just print it out..And the L7200u you can buy in US just really don't think it's a full release Crunchfield list it and so does B&H
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bigdog77S - 55L6200: I had the same issue with Walmart online. Paid immediately with Paypal and waited 3 days with no update from them even despite paying for super expedited shipping. No word from them then the dreaded Out of Stock on the item online. Cancelled order and asked for an apology. Got nonsense about my credit card not having cleared before pointing out it was paid from PayPal direct from my bank. Took further 7 days for Paypal to credit the money back to me. Silence to my last email to Walmart.

Ordered from Amazon using Prime free shipping. As ever with AMZ, immediate confirmation, chose desired delivery time. CEVA delivered within 15 minutes of the window opening. Fantastic service. yeah I paid $180 more than Wally world, but clearly that price was never real.

As to the set, I am travelling on business but my 25 yr old son who is very tech critical says it is awesome tech for the money even at $1410. Sits nicely in our family room and even my wife is a superfan. Only criticism from my son is the off center performance of passive 3D, but we didnt buy it for that rather for our main watching screen downstairs.

Think htat confirms I will go for active 3D when we do upstairs bonus room with a 65" LED screen to replace our 7 yr old Tosh DLP.

Been with Tosh for 9 years now and have to say that they always deliver price performance. the 6200/7200 seems to be more of the same. Not bleeding edge, but damned fine bang for the buck.
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Still trying to decide between Samsung or the Toshiba, still no reviews on this set. Come on CNET.
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PQ continues to Amaze me. I don't play games. Hence I don't care about lag. Sorry!
Even SD channells are more than ok. (which are important to us , as we watch International channels). The only downside, I see is no flash support in 55L6200U . Even last years' model 515U had Skype & Flash support. That is important to me, as we listen/watch some online. Anyone has any idea, if this can be done by software upgrade (Provided Toshibha decides to)or if not implemented cann't be?
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I am loving mine still can't really complain but Firmware update is buggy...Having problems with 3d switching SBS to top bottom viewing wont let me so have to power off TV i wouldn't update to the 6/12 firmware...So other then alittle light bleeding the PQ is great and very happy tho i do wish i could have gotten the 7200
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The difference between th 6200 and 7200 is just 240hz refresh? Has anyone done a side by side with Samsung?
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The difference between th 6200 and 7200 is just 240hz refresh? Has anyone done a side by side with Samsung?
I did at one time dunno if the samsung just went bad or what...I had the 55es7500 didnt seem as sharp plus i got some funky green tint in the picture 3 days of having it...The sammy does feel very cheap around the frame, and my younger son got a very bad headache from watching 3d...IMO this toshiba is as good as it gets for 1,420 out the door , If you dont really care about the apps which i do not thats what my phone or computer is for!
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In addition to being 240Hz, L7200 has Local Dimming and hence better blacks. But I love my 55L6200 for its PQ. Both 2D & 3D PQ are excellent. Beats out my Samsung (last year's model). Unless Samsung is ES series improved greatly over the D Series of last year, L6200 is better than Samsung in PQ. Only downside is Samsung has like a million APS, but Toshiba has only a few. It lacks FLASH support which is a great downside for me as I can't go to the browser and play videos from websites. Hope future software upgrades will take care of that! For the price I paid (<1K) i can't complain biggrin.gif
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Does anyone here know how to enter the service menu frown.gif
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In addition to being 240Hz, L7200 has Local Dimming and hence better blacks. But I love my 55L6200 for its PQ. Both 2D & 3D PQ are excellent. Beats out my Samsung (last year's model). Unless Samsung is ES series improved greatly over the D Series of last year, L6200 is better than Samsung in PQ. Only downside is Samsung has like a million APS, but Toshiba has only a few. It lacks FLASH support which is a great downside for me as I can't go to the browser and play videos from websites. Hope future software upgrades will take care of that! For the price I paid (<1K) i can't complain biggrin.gif

Where did you get your 55" for < than $1000?
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Amazon had the price of $983.99 for a few hours (55L6200U). Many got it, It was possibly a price mistake. They posted the 55" at 47" price, but honored it. biggrin.gif
Had to wait for a month to get it, since most people who saw ordered. Now it is hovering around $1400. Even 47" is higher than what I paid. It was a price mistake deal, not possible to replicate now. Possibly by Black Friday. I will alert if I see near that price again!biggrin.gif

Anyone know why Toshibha took away Flash support which they had in last year's model (515U)? Is that a software upgrade? Anyone with knowledge Please?
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Just bought a 55L7200U today from Visions. (Calgary, AB, Canada)
I'll be setting it up tonight and testing it out. I don't have a laptop to test the lag, but I'll see if I can mirror my HTPC to another monitor. That said... I'm a gamer, so I'll be trying that out for sure.
My setup will go through a VSX822K receiver, so I'll try out the ARC and how it handles resolution switches. I also have a HTPC connected, so I'll be looking into how it handles PC signals and checking text clarity etc. If anyone wants me to check anything else, let me know.
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Greetings to all. I had a chance to test a 55l6200 along side a LG 55lm5800 model at Futureshop here in Canada. At first the the Toshiba had some menu and 3d problems that were fixed with a firmware upgrade (took about 30 minutes over store wifi).

Overall the Toshiba was as good as the LG in 2d if not better. Black levels seem higher in the Toshiba and the image is more "contrasty" so to speak, giving it a more appealing rendering IMO. Black crush does occur however thus some detail is lost in dark areas. The sharpness and color range is excellent in 2d. I did not see any soap opera effect or jitter.

As far as the 3d goes I only tested SBS material. The 3d is very good but not fantastic. I tested it with a pair of LG passive glasses as the Toshiba glasses could not be located in the store. I had read the review article posted earlier in this thread and could not understand what they meant by existence of 3d crosstalk in the Toshiba. IMO the Toshiba 3d is generally not as easy on the eyes as the LG is. It's not bad but rather slightly less satisfying. There is a greater tendency to see a bit of fishbowl or bubble effect on the Toshiba. In addition the Toshiba is not as bright in 3d even with backlight set to max. This results is a darker 3d image which strained my eyes a little and did not provide the more extensive image details. Depth and OOS effects are similar to LG though. The 2d to 3d conversion engine is so so, although it's not that great in the LG version either but the Toshiba version falls slightly behind and can tire the eyes faster.

The audio is fairly bad on this TV. I'd for certain suggest a sound bar or home theatre setup, but that's a generality now among newer displays. The menu system is not as polished and refined as the LG model. In fact it is a bit clumsy and slow to respond. Nothing one couldn't forget but its there. The bezel-less design is cool but does make the TV appear smaller than it really is. An optical illusion obviously but It does make the screen appear smaller. The TV design is fancy but not ultra modern as a Samsung unit.

Overall it's an excellent TV in this price range. This model was $1599 when I saw it and the LG model was $200 more. IMO if you primarily watch and want this unit as a 2d display it is a great buy. Espescially if you can source it at sub $1200. If you want a 3d unit however it is an excellent purchase if you're budget conscious. The 3d will not leave you lacking but it is slightly less appealing as the LG equivalent and can tire you sooner. You will save a few hundred dollars though.

I did not get to test the system for gaming but did notice a visible streaking when compared to 240 refresh units in high speed scenes.

All in all I'd recommend the Toshiba to brand fans with 2d preference, those wanting a newer 3d able smart display but with a budget limit or those without access to the LG unit for whatever reason.

If you have any questions ask and I'll be glad respond in my best ability.
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Bad news for interested buyers... As I mentioned above, I picked up an L7200U from visions, but after some pretty positive first impressions, I'm literally horrified by the screen uniformity.

Tested:

2D: Initial impressions were great, good contrast and colors and I haven't even calibrated yet. Motion is excellent, especially in cinema mode... it seems to smooth a bit without the unnatural soap opera effect.

3D: OK - I've seen passive 3d Panasonics and LGs at stores... both looked very good, but my 7200 seems to have a weird crosstalk effect when there is heavy motion onscreen. It is giving me a head ache to be honest. Stationary or limited motion scenes look excellent and have a great sense of depth, but it all falls apart when things start moving.

Build: Good - Seems solid enough and looks fantastic on my TV stand. The top corners don't seem to be perfectly molded to the screen however.

Menu / Controls: Pretty good, I like the remote and the menu seems to work fine.

Smart: OK - Tried out Netflix and You tube, which seem to work fine, but the menu is sluggish to bring up.

Screen uniformity: FAIL - My screen looks like an abstract greyscale painting when an all black screen is displayed. It isn't noticeable all the time, but any darker scene looks like you are watching through a vignette filter or something. It might be a random defect from the factory, but it's too bad for me to ignore. I may sound like I'm being picky, but my wife, who can't tell the difference between HD and SD said: "What the hell is wrong with our new TV? It's got spots all over it." I knew I had to take it back. Not sure if I'll try another 7200 or go for the Panny ET5.

Sorry for the terrible spelling and grammar, I need to go to bed.
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Bad news for interested buyers... As I mentioned above, I picked up an L7200U from visions, but after some pretty positive first impressions, I'm literally horrified by the screen uniformity.
Tested:
2D: Initial impressions were great, good contrast and colors and I haven't even calibrated yet. Motion is excellent, especially in cinema mode... it seems to smooth a bit without the unnatural soap opera effect.
3D: OK - I've seen passive 3d Panasonics and LGs at stores... both looked very good, but my 7200 seems to have a weird crosstalk effect when there is heavy motion onscreen. It is giving me a head ache to be honest. Stationary or limited motion scenes look excellent and have a great sense of depth, but it all falls apart when things start moving.
Build: Good - Seems solid enough and looks fantastic on my TV stand. The top corners don't seem to be perfectly molded to the screen however.
Menu / Controls: Pretty good, I like the remote and the menu seems to work fine.
Smart: OK - Tried out Netflix and You tube, which seem to work fine, but the menu is sluggish to bring up.
Screen uniformity: FAIL - My screen looks like an abstract greyscale painting when an all black screen is displayed. It isn't noticeable all the time, but any darker scene looks like you are watching through a vignette filter or something. It might be a random defect from the factory, but it's too bad for me to ignore. I may sound like I'm being picky, but my wife, who can't tell the difference between HD and SD said: "What the hell is wrong with our new TV? It's got spots all over it." I knew I had to take it back. Not sure if I'll try another 7200 or go for the Panny ET5.
Sorry for the terrible spelling and grammar, I need to go to bed.

Have you tried updating your firmware? I heard there were 3d issues that were addressed by updating the firmware over what the unit shipped with.
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Found the 55L7200U at Tiger Direct:

_http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2207832&CatId=5989

It says out of stock, but I just called in and they had 3 available so I ordered one. They have it in their system for ~$1900 I think it was, but they just price-matched this site for me at $1511.77:

_http://www.electronics-expo.com/toshiba-55l7200u-55-class-3d-led-tv

Free shipping, + $199.00 for a 4-yr extended warranty, and unfortunately there's sales tax with Tiger Direct in NC it seems to the tune of ~$103. frown.gif
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