Originally Posted by Bobby_D
I was looking at your 70-year reliability average curve table (post #31), and wonder how correct prediction will be for lower half brands since they seem to change their outsourcing company periodically.
For example, Toshiba is listed with Compal and Alco. And as I remember, Toshiba used to outsource from Funai also which make the reliability predition curve for Toshiba looks like a roller coaster-since Funai have better reliability curve than the other two.
BTW, I thought Insignia LCDs were made by LG....at least that is what I told my friend who is looking for TV
This 70-year (prediction) reliability average curve will always fluctuate with brands switching in places during the next 20 years through 2030. The top-half, most-reliable brands will see less movements, since they have already proved themselves back in history. The bottom-half, least-reliable brands will always fluctuate, because they may suddenly come out with products that are very reliable, after learning past mistakes, and this certain manufacturer can jump up in the charts very fast. LG/GoldStar/Zenith was a good example before.
You're correct that Toshiba also outsources with Funai. Toshiba was forced to switch to Funai after leaving Orion in mid-2008, because Orion had decided to terminate OEM production on DVD/VCR combos and DVD recorders. Toshiba only offered one to three models from Funai per year since 2008, which is really only a small percentage. Now, Toshiba had left Funai, actually, after Toshiba has decided to discontinue offering DVD/VCR combos and DVD recorders in their lineup. Only the DVD players and Blu-Ray players remain, which are all made by Alco, with stinky reliability ratings and lousy customer review ratings from Amazon.com. Toshiba do their best finding the cheapest labor they can find for most of their products, and Alco/Venturer is one of the cheapest Chinese electronic labors in the world.
Funai, as a manufacturer itself, did surprise me in the reliability ratings, and I was already warned about this before. Their flat-panel TVs continue to be one of the most-reliable out there. DVD players and DVD recorders also receive good reliability marks, and sometimes more reliable than Panasonic (I'm not kidding). Funai also got a really major head-start in reliability during the 1980s when their VHS VCRs were rated third most reliable, after Panasonic and Toshiba, in the VCR reliability charts provided by Consumer Reports. CRT tube TVs did okay and always scored better than Samsung. Funai's reliability rating slipped a little in the late-90s when they had some troubles with their VHS VCRs, but gradually improved again when VHS VCR production was reduced in favor for DVD players, DVD/VCR combos, Blu-Ray players, flat-panel TVs, and etc. In the end, today, Funai has successfully made it being one of the top-10, most reliable electronic manufacturers in the world. Funai should be proud of themselves, I think. I wish I can pass this message to Tetsuro Funai, founder and CEO.
Funai also provide the lowest-number of defects out from the box in the world. If you click on this link below, "Magnavox," all made by Funai, is rated third most reliable TV brand, but Magnavox scores the highest in "Problem on Arrival," meaning that you opened up the sealed, unopened retail box, and does it work or not when you first plug it in.http://www.pcworld.com/article/24456...d_to_beat.html
On the Insignia, NO, not true at all. Most Insignia plasma TVs are made by LG, and 20% of Insignia LCD/LED TVs released were made by LG. 80% of Insignia LCD/LED TVs, as well as the Dynex brand, are made by Amtran. Best Buy have misinformed their customers many times in the past, only to entice people to buy their in-store brands than others for profit.