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I am in the market for a 65" LCD and have some specific requirements. If no panel exists to match this, can someone please suggest what might come CLOSEST?

1) LED backlight
2) Full array with local dimming (though I'm flexible)
3) IPS type tech (want to get away from Samsung PVA tech with off center contrast shifts!)
4) 3D capable
5) 120Hz or greater capable AND low input lag (as it will be used for a lot of gaming)
6) Non silver bezel if at all possible, and the thinner the better

Don't care too much about price or any other features, as I'm sure the black level will have to be better than my 2008 52" CFL PVA Samsung, which has literally glowing blacks.

Thanks for any tips!!! And no, I don't want plasma, had them for years, can't stand the line bleed. Need this to tide me over until a 65" OLED exists that costs less than a car. :P
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Sounds good- I would also add PAL capability and active 3D, unless they can get rid of the visible scan lines with passive.
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Pretty sure LG does not manufacture IPS panels in a 65" size.

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There is a 60" LG LM9600, though it's not out yet. It features:

1. IPS
2. Nano LED backlit local dimming
3. 480hz (really 240hz with scanning backlight)
4. Passive 3D with dual play
5. Smart TV with dual core chip
6. Gun metal frame
7. Very slim bezel

The only problem with this TV is that the 60" version doesn't come out until August.

In addition to the LG, there is also the Sharp Elite TV's (non IPS). They are quite expensive, but they offer the best PQ of any LED TV so far.
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There is a 60" LG LM9600, though it's not out yet. It features:

1. IPS
2. Nano LED backlit local dimming
3. 480hz (really 240hz with scanning backlight)
4. Passive 3D with dual play
5. Smart TV with dual core chip
6. Gun metal frame
7. Very slim bezel

The only problem with this TV is that the 60" version doesn't come out until August.

In addition to the LG, there is also the Sharp Elite TV's. They are quite expensive, but they offer the best PQ of any LED TV so far.

please add no ips panels on the sharp elites though.

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please add no ips panels on the sharp elites though.

Thanks for the catch.

Even though the Sharps don't use IPS, I don't remember reading anything bad about their viewing angles.
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Thanks for the suggestions so far. I might have to lose the 5" and wait until August.

I never considered the Sharp Elites, because looking at the Sharp Aquos LEDs in the store, they always looked just terrible PQ-wise compared to all the other TVs.

But if only LG is making IPS televisions, what does that mean for all other LCD TVs out there? Are they all some kind of PVA tech like my Samsung, or *cringe* TN?

Would sure be nice go from a 2.5 inch bezel to a 5mm one. My wife always complains about the bezel.
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It seems Pansonic Viera LED also uses something called IPS Alpha. But those seem to max out at 55".

Must have S-IPS like my monitor, can't stand PVA/MVA anymore.
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It seems Pansonic Viera LED also uses something called IPS Alpha. But those seem to max out at 55".

Must have S-IPS like my monitor, can't stand PVA/MVA anymore.

I feal your pain. I currently have a Samsung C6300 LED, the clouding and poor off angle contrast has really been bugging me lately.

I really hope the LG LM9600 lives up to its hype.
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So I'm starting the search for a new HDTV that will happen sometime in the next 6 months. The 40" LN40A650 Sammy just isn't big enough anymore

Having not looked in a few years, what's IPS and PVA/MVA. Sorry for the topic derailment but I was just wondering. Thanks..

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So I'm starting the search for a new HDTV that will happen sometime in the next 6 months. The 40" LN40A650 Sammy just isn't big enough anymore

Having not looked in a few years, what's IPS and PVA/MVA. Sorry for the topic derailment but I was just wondering. Thanks..

I'm no expert, but they are different pannel types.

IPS offers much better off angle contrast, while PVA offers better blacks. Usually an IPS TV with local dimming will give you the best of both worlds (good off angle contrast and good blacks due to local dimming).
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though it's not out yet.
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I'm no expert, but they are different pannel types.

IPS offers much better off angle contrast, while PVA offers better blacks. Usually an IPS TV with local dimming will give you the best of both worlds (good off angle contrast and good blacks due to local dimming).

Local dimming may end up crushing detail.
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Are these all incorporated in various forms in LED's?

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At CES The 60" was edge-lit with local dimming or some kind of magic dimming. The 55" LM9600 was NANO full backlit with local dimming. Did this change?
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