Does this LCD panel exist? 65" full array local dim LED IPS? - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-18-2012, 12:23 PM - Thread Starter
Advanced Member
 
Flavius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 46
I am in the market for a 65" LCD and have some specific requirements. If no panel exists to match this, can someone please suggest what might come CLOSEST?

1) LED backlight
2) Full array with local dimming (though I'm flexible)
3) IPS type tech (want to get away from Samsung PVA tech with off center contrast shifts!)
4) 3D capable
5) 120Hz or greater capable AND low input lag (as it will be used for a lot of gaming)
6) Non silver bezel if at all possible, and the thinner the better

Don't care too much about price or any other features, as I'm sure the black level will have to be better than my 2008 52" CFL PVA Samsung, which has literally glowing blacks.

Thanks for any tips!!! And no, I don't want plasma, had them for years, can't stand the line bleed. Need this to tide me over until a 65" OLED exists that costs less than a car. :P
Flavius is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-18-2012, 01:01 PM
 
8traxrule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 746
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Sounds good- I would also add PAL capability and active 3D, unless they can get rid of the visible scan lines with passive.
8traxrule is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 01:23 PM
AVS Special Member
 
fatuglyguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mars
Posts: 1,450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Liked: 135
Pretty sure LG does not manufacture IPS panels in a 65" size.

ht Panasonic 60" ZT60, Monitor Audio: Silver RX6, RX Centre, RX1; Martinlogan Dynamo 700, Marantz SR5006, PS3, Oppo BDP-103D, Panamax M-5100PM
2ch Sony 32" W650A, Sonus faber Toy Monitor, REL T3, Marantz PM8004, Sony BDP-S1000ES, JVC T-X3 tuner, Apple TV, Peachtree Audio DAC•iT, Panamax MR4300
pc Monitor Audio Radius 90HD, Audioengine D1, FiiO A1
+ Sony 65" XBRX850B, Sony BDP-S5100
fatuglyguy is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 01:33 PM
Senior Member
 
eclipsegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 292
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Liked: 61
There is a 60" LG LM9600, though it's not out yet. It features:

1. IPS
2. Nano LED backlit local dimming
3. 480hz (really 240hz with scanning backlight)
4. Passive 3D with dual play
5. Smart TV with dual core chip
6. Gun metal frame
7. Very slim bezel

The only problem with this TV is that the 60" version doesn't come out until August.

In addition to the LG, there is also the Sharp Elite TV's (non IPS). They are quite expensive, but they offer the best PQ of any LED TV so far.
eclipsegt is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 02:11 PM
AVS Special Member
 
airgas1998's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 42degsN 92degsW
Posts: 2,195
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked: 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by eclipsegt View Post

There is a 60" LG LM9600, though it's not out yet. It features:

1. IPS
2. Nano LED backlit local dimming
3. 480hz (really 240hz with scanning backlight)
4. Passive 3D with dual play
5. Smart TV with dual core chip
6. Gun metal frame
7. Very slim bezel

The only problem with this TV is that the 60" version doesn't come out until August.

In addition to the LG, there is also the Sharp Elite TV's. They are quite expensive, but they offer the best PQ of any LED TV so far.

please add no ips panels on the sharp elites though.

Habit Forming....Wallet Burning Hobby....

64" Samsung F8500 Plasma
55" Samsung B8500 Full Array Lcd
Channel Master Dvr
Onkyo 818
Crown xls-2000
Sony Blu-Ray 790
Svs Ultra Towers/Center, Energy Rc-50 Surround
Svs Pb-13 Ultra Sub
airgas1998 is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 02:47 PM
Senior Member
 
eclipsegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 292
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Liked: 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

please add no ips panels on the sharp elites though.

Thanks for the catch.

Even though the Sharps don't use IPS, I don't remember reading anything bad about their viewing angles.
eclipsegt is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 02:49 PM - Thread Starter
Advanced Member
 
Flavius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 46
Thanks for the suggestions so far. I might have to lose the 5" and wait until August.

I never considered the Sharp Elites, because looking at the Sharp Aquos LEDs in the store, they always looked just terrible PQ-wise compared to all the other TVs.

But if only LG is making IPS televisions, what does that mean for all other LCD TVs out there? Are they all some kind of PVA tech like my Samsung, or *cringe* TN?

Would sure be nice go from a 2.5 inch bezel to a 5mm one. My wife always complains about the bezel.
Flavius is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 03:31 PM - Thread Starter
Advanced Member
 
Flavius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 46
It seems Pansonic Viera LED also uses something called IPS Alpha. But those seem to max out at 55".

Must have S-IPS like my monitor, can't stand PVA/MVA anymore.
Flavius is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 04:11 PM
Senior Member
 
eclipsegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 292
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Liked: 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flavius View Post

It seems Pansonic Viera LED also uses something called IPS Alpha. But those seem to max out at 55".

Must have S-IPS like my monitor, can't stand PVA/MVA anymore.

I feal your pain. I currently have a Samsung C6300 LED, the clouding and poor off angle contrast has really been bugging me lately.

I really hope the LG LM9600 lives up to its hype.
eclipsegt is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 06:42 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Sammy2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Right next to Wineville, CA
Posts: 9,846
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 123 Post(s)
Liked: 190
So I'm starting the search for a new HDTV that will happen sometime in the next 6 months. The 40" LN40A650 Sammy just isn't big enough anymore

Having not looked in a few years, what's IPS and PVA/MVA. Sorry for the topic derailment but I was just wondering. Thanks..

Sammy2 is offline  
Old 04-18-2012, 08:18 PM
Senior Member
 
eclipsegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 292
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Liked: 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

So I'm starting the search for a new HDTV that will happen sometime in the next 6 months. The 40" LN40A650 Sammy just isn't big enough anymore

Having not looked in a few years, what's IPS and PVA/MVA. Sorry for the topic derailment but I was just wondering. Thanks..

I'm no expert, but they are different pannel types.

IPS offers much better off angle contrast, while PVA offers better blacks. Usually an IPS TV with local dimming will give you the best of both worlds (good off angle contrast and good blacks due to local dimming).
eclipsegt is offline  
Old 04-19-2012, 01:12 AM
Newbie
 
ValerSterling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
though it's not out yet.
ValerSterling is offline  
Old 04-19-2012, 06:45 AM
Senior Member
 
Frank Benign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 254
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by eclipsegt View Post

I'm no expert, but they are different pannel types.

IPS offers much better off angle contrast, while PVA offers better blacks. Usually an IPS TV with local dimming will give you the best of both worlds (good off angle contrast and good blacks due to local dimming).

Local dimming may end up crushing detail.
Frank Benign is offline  
Old 04-20-2012, 08:05 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Sammy2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Right next to Wineville, CA
Posts: 9,846
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 123 Post(s)
Liked: 190
Are these all incorporated in various forms in LED's?

Sammy2 is offline  
Old 04-20-2012, 08:24 AM
Advanced Member
 
KONICA TECH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Clinton, Ma.
Posts: 898
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Liked: 51
At CES The 60" was edge-lit with local dimming or some kind of magic dimming. The 55" LM9600 was NANO full backlit with local dimming. Did this change?
KONICA TECH is offline  
 
Thread Tools


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off