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post #1441 of 2449 Old 06-11-2013, 09:15 PM
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Hi there!! im new to this forum and im from mexico. i want a new display and i am between the UN40F5000 (2013 model) and UN40EH5000 (2012 model).

Which one is the best? both models are recommended for low input lag (displaylag.com).

Actually the f5000 is cheaper than the EH5000 in my local store.

Which one would you pick??


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^^^ thankyou. That was helpful. Maybe 12none will learn what this forum is all about.
It's not about spoon feeding. Try using the search feature.
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It's not about spoon feeding. Try using the search feature.

granted, it's kinda hard to do an exact search when the question is so broad. Personally I wouldn't mind a new updated post with all the info. As far as I know I got a good panel, but then I read someone say "well I have an F" after my model # and it says CS on the display menu". It can get confusing when there are a dozen different modifiers. A helpful post even if the question was answered 25 pages back can save some people some time. And personally, I don't mind sparing my time because so many people have answered so many questions for me in the past.

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I bought one but returned it after just not being ready to upgrade from my 26" I guess. If I remember correctly it was a CH01. I just bought one again that is a TS01, now according to this amazon review here's what the guy said about panel lottery.


TH0x or TS0x: Samsung S-PVA panel (possibly just a PVA, if you're less lucky): This is what you thought you were buying. Best color, best black, best viewing angles.
HS0x: Sharp ASV panel: Lower contrast ratio, more narrow viewing angle. I read HS02 in particular has terrible ghosting.
A_0X: AOU A-MVA panel: Even lower contrast ratio.
CH0x or CM0x or CS0x: Chimea S-MVA panel: You lost the lottery. Markedly worse in every way - way worse viewing angle, color reproduction, etc. Just a terrible rip-off.

Picture quality is subjective, but this information is a tad bit off. Every panel used will require a bit of tweaking in the picture settings to get the best result. What is the best panel? The one that looks best to you in your home. Don't expect the picture to remain the same either. After a year of use, it was necessary to calibrate the picture again. A couple small changes and I was amazed at the difference in PQ.
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Picture quality is subjective, but this information is a tad bit off. Every panel used will require a bit of tweaking in the picture settings to get the best result. What is the best panel? The one that looks best to you in your home. Don't expect the picture to remain the same either. After a year of use, it was necessary to calibrate the picture again. A couple small changes and I was amazed at the difference in PQ.

Is he right though? Are the TS01s and THO1s the samsung panels? It's hard for me to remember from a year ago to compare my CH01 panel I returned to this TS01 panel. But I do know that after playing some PS3 I'm not having any second thoughts. And ofcourse you have to adjust as you go. I'm just wanting to make sure that I got what I paid for (not a worse panel from another manifacturer).

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Picture quality is subjective, but this information is a tad bit off. Every panel used will require a bit of tweaking in the picture settings to get the best result. What is the best panel? The one that looks best to you in your home. Don't expect the picture to remain the same either. After a year of use, it was necessary to calibrate the picture again. A couple small changes and I was amazed at the difference in PQ.

With all due respect, this is not about pq per se, but the actual build of the panel type. I have an LG and was able to determine that I got one with an S-IPS panel by noting the complete product code and then verifying that by the loupe test. S-IPS panels have excellent off-axis viewing as well as color rendering (blacks aren't that great but that's the technology). And after almost 2.5 years, it still looks amazing. I had heard that Samsung had/has the same type of panel lottery that LG had, and some panels were inherently better than others, S-PVA being the sought after one (similar to the S-IPS for the LGs). You are correct that all panels can benefit from some tweaking, either by making accurate picture adjustments using a calibration disk or by a real calibration using software and meters, but there are some panels which benefit greater from the "tweaking" than others because of the way they are designed.
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I have some strobing during bright scenes so I'm gonna go load an update on my usb hope that fixes it.

Anyone wanna post some quick settings for me? Be advised I am one of those "vivid" lovers so. Currently have

16 backlight
80 contrast
46 brightness
36 sharpness

I also have blacks set at the lowest and contrast ratio high (people say not to but I like the way it looks). And ofcourse true motion off.

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^^^^ you might want to consider getting either the free AVS HD709 cal disk or purchase something like the 2nd Edition of Spears & Munsil. Both disks will allow you to set the basics (brightness, contrast, sharpness, aspect, and color) to rec.709 standards. It won't be a calibration but you can make some very accurate adjustments based on test patterns, etc.
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I believe it was in Advanced>Config. I would check, but it will revert all my settings again; don't feel like re-calibrating :/ I know for a fact though the option to turn it on when you find the correct menu is 'Anynet+'

Thank-you. Do you happen to recall doing anything special to get into the menu? I can key 0000 on the Advanced option and it then adds two greyed out options but I can't access any submenus and there's nothing called Config

It may be that I'm out of luck and this model is different (UK spec UE32EH5000)

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Hello,
I have a quick question although I think I already know the answer... is it possible to share my Galaxy S3 screen over the internet on my Samsung UE-40EH5300? The TV itself is not connected via Wi-Fi but plugged directly into the wireless router, still I don't think this makes any difference cause the essential requirement is there - both devices are on the same network. But when I open Allshare Cast from the SGS 3 it doesn't find the TV. So do I need an Allshare Cast Dongle even though I've got a Samsung Smart TV? That is a total rip off...... Also the problem isn't in the network because the phone finds the TV with no problem when I use Allshare Control or Samsung Link - one lets me stream videos / photos from my phone (but I already have Serviio on my PC and Internet on my TV so I can open YouTube if I want to...) and the other is like an alternate remote control which is also useless (apart from the "touchpad" function but still I don't browse the web on my TV when I have a Smartphone and a PC at my disposal). So basically the only thing I want to do is to stream my phone's screen to my TV (not just photos and videos) for playing games in example but is that possible without that damn Allshare Cast Dongle? Thanks
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Sounds like you want to do is what a lot of us can do with an AppleTV. That's not a criticism of your phone or OS of choice it's just that I think "smart tv's (which is an oxymoron) don't have the capability of doing that without "external" help.
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I'm thinking more like Samsung wanting to get extra profits from selling Allshare Dongles..... I don't see why is it possible to use Smartview (streaming your TV to your Phone) without any extra accessories, streaming movies/photos from the phone without any extra accessories but not being able to stream the phone's display without an allshare cast dongle..... What I read somewhere is that it used to work without a dongle but after some update (not sure if it was update of the Smartphone firmware or the TV firmware) it stopped working without the dongle..
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Is there anyway to determine the panel type on the EH series (specifically the 40EH5300F) without accessing the SM? LG used to put the panel type in the complete product code which was located on a sticker on the side of the tv or on the outside of box.

Txxx and I think USxx (not 100% sure about the latter)

I have the TS01 on my UN46EH6030 and it's great. It's got a real contrast ratio of about 2,500:1 when you calibrate to 255 or just over 3,000:1 when you don't (235). Unlike the LG S-IPS, the S-PVA has better vertical viewing angles (which when watching TV lying in bed really helps more than horizontal viewing angles). Blacks don't really get much brighter off-axis unlike other *VA panel types, unless you view TV at extreme angles up close. Gamma does get lighter off-axis though, pretty quickly (for horizontal axis).

check this link to see some of the versions the 40" EH5300 comes in:

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/part-model/un40eh5300

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^^^^ thanks. I knew you had a Samsung and was hoping you'd respond.
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It appears that one of my posts got lost when AVS went down for maintenance awhile ago. Oh well. Do you, or anyone else for that matter, know if there is any difference at all between the 40EH5300 and the 40EH5300FXZA? Info is a little confusing. Are they one and the same with the same panel type or is the 5300FXZA a smart set while the 5300 is not? Gawd I hate shopping for tv's when I'm so anal about it frown.gif
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The TV model is the same EH5300, the letters behind 5300 are for other things. In example ZA is regional code and is for the USA, the other letters I think are about the design and bezel but I am not 100% certain. But in any case it's the same model EH5300 - has same functions and specifications.
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It appears that one of my posts got lost when AVS went down for maintenance awhile ago. Oh well. Do you, or anyone else for that matter, know if there is any difference at all between the 40EH5300 and the 40EH5300FXZA? Info is a little confusing. Are they one and the same with the same panel type or is the 5300FXZA a smart set while the 5300 is not? Gawd I hate shopping for tv's when I'm so anal about it frown.gif

FXZA is just the code for US models

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FXZA is just the code for US models

Thanks. So I just need to see if there is a Txxx after the code?
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Thanks. So I just need to see if there is a Txxx after the code?

it's on the white sticker on the outside of the box under "Version"... not actually part of the model number which is UN40EH5300FXZA

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Has anyone debezeled this TV? I have the 32" version that I use as a computer monitor and I want to debezel it. Just wondering if anyone has info or pictures of the process.
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To achieve what? The bezel is only about 20mm wide.
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Is there a way to recognize the change in panel after repair?

samsung service told me it was the panel that was damaged, the panel itself is what makes up the TV.

they change both panels? lighting and color? the price is very high for repair.

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FIRMWARE UPGRADE on EH5000
I have made various attempts to upgrade the firmware of my EH5000 but failed. Tried copying the T-MX9FMASC.exe to a 2GB USB stick in the root. USB was formatted in FAT32...didnt work! tried formating the USB to FAT...didn't work! The TV simply doesn't detect the firmware from the USB. USB itself is fine and I can play movies. ONly thing left to try is formatting the USB in exFAT format. the current firmware on TV is 1016 and the latest available is 1124. Samsung is known to release PQ enhancements thru firmware so I think I should go for it.
Has anyone faced similar issues?
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Is there a way to recognize the change in panel after repair?

samsung service told me it was the panel that was damaged, the panel itself is what makes up the TV.

they change both panels? lighting and color? the price is very high for repair.

regards!

Probably the best way to determine the type of panel you have is to do the "loupe test". IOW, take a magnifying lens or jewelers loupe and look at the pixel pattern and then compare what you see to the pics of various panel types (S-PVA, S-IPS, MVA, etc) to determine the type of LCD panel. By "both" panels I'm assuming that you mean the LCD panel and the back lighting array (CCFL, LED (edge or full)?
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FIRMWARE UPGRADE on EH5000
I have made various attempts to upgrade the firmware of my EH5000 but failed. Tried copying the T-MX9FMASC.exe to a 2GB USB stick in the root. USB was formatted in FAT32...didnt work! tried formating the USB to FAT...didn't work! The TV simply doesn't detect the firmware from the USB. USB itself is fine and I can play movies. ONly thing left to try is formatting the USB in exFAT format. the current firmware on TV is 1016 and the latest available is 1124. Samsung is known to release PQ enhancements thru firmware so I think I should go for it.
Has anyone faced similar issues?

Is the firmware upgrade for your particular model and region? It's not uncommon to tv mfrs to release updates that are specific for a particular model and region of use, and those updates can't be applied to the another model that is not region specific. As a cautionary note, I would try to find out as best as you can what the update is for before applying the correct one. Just assuming it is for pq enhancements (whatever those could possibly be) may lead to problems.
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Here's some hardware documentation on the UN40EH5000FXZA for anyone who's interested: http://www.mediafire.com/download/71lq8w45pqtblb4/11745698-Samsung_Un40eh5000_Un40eh5000f_Service_Manual_And_Repair_Guide.zip
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Can someone please give me some picture settings for the UN37EH5000? SD cable setting, Movie setting and a Game setting.
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All tv's are different due to component tolerances so what looks good for one person in their viewing environment might not look good on your tv in your viewing environment. If you can't find decent settings that work, you should down load the free AVS HD709 disk and adjust your settings to fit your tv in your viewing environment.
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All tv's are different due to component tolerances so what looks good for one person in their viewing environment might not look good on your tv in your viewing environment. If you can't find decent settings that work, you should down load the free AVS HD709 disk and adjust your settings to fit your tv in your viewing environment.

Hi, Thanks for the reply.

I have this TV in my bedroom which is pretty dim. To be honest I am not that picky, just want some good baseline settings that I can tweek as I slowly get used to the set.
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FIRMWARE UPGRADE on EH5000
I have made various attempts to upgrade the firmware of my EH5000 but failed. Tried copying the T-MX9FMASC.exe to a 2GB USB stick in the root. USB was formatted in FAT32...didnt work! tried formating the USB to FAT...didn't work! The TV simply doesn't detect the firmware from the USB. USB itself is fine and I can play movies. ONly thing left to try is formatting the USB in exFAT format. the current firmware on TV is 1016 and the latest available is 1124. Samsung is known to release PQ enhancements thru firmware so I think I should go for it.
Has anyone faced similar issues?

Have you followed the instructions in the "2012 Samsung TV F/W Upgrade Guide"?

Before trying to make the TV recognize the upgrade files, be sure to run the EXE file in your PC so it will extract a folder to the USB drive.

The TV won't recognize the EXE file itself.

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