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Woobieizer,

"Can you do anything on this set, or is going into loop from a power off state to a power on state?" I only tried once and it automatically started with Channel 14. After a few minutes looping on Channel 14 decided to turn off and start searching how to stop this scan.

Have wondered if a "Factory Reset" would do this?

Do you know how I can do this for this LED TV?

Have been looking for the "Samsung UN32EH4003 Service Manual" but have found nothing to date.

Thanks

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Woobieizer,

"Can you do anything on this set, or is going into loop from a power off state to a power on state?" I only tried once and it automatically started with Channel 14. After a few minutes looping on Channel 14 decided to turn off and start searching how to stop this scan.

Have wondered if a "Factory Reset" would do this?

Do you know how I can do this for this LED TV?

Have been looking for the "Samsung UN32EH4003 Service Manual" but have found nothing to date.

Thanks

Ken
To enter the service menu:
Set off
With Remote push each key once:
Code:
Mute  1 8 2  Power
The set will come on and show the menu.
using the directional keys and select:
Select Options
Look at menu for 'Factory Reset'
>Select>wait for confirmation and power off set. Repower
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Any body know how I can find out ask the supported refresh rates for this tv. I have 5300 series and would like to know all the supported. When I press info, defending on the media being played it has shown 24, 60 and 30 Hz but would like to know about other refresh rates such as 25, 50...

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Question Netflix video settings

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I cant make Netflix look as good as my Sony Bluray player, even when both use same settings the bluray player Netflix app video is far superior, I wonder why this happens, is just that the TV cant handle higher quality so it reduces it automatically? I tried wireless and wired connection. default Movie mode for both apps.


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What TV?
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What TV?
Its un40eh5300, I have been tweaking the settings, and using the netflix test patterns to calibrate it,
I was able to make it look better than IE Edge or any browser, and definitely much better than the Wii U or any Android phone.

but i still think the netflix app of bluray player looks better.
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What TV?
It looks like Netflix is capped at 3000 kbps for every single device in my home, edge browser is supposed to support 5800 kbps but its not doing it. netflix test patters show 5800 kbps rate and looks amazing but all other shows and movies doesn't look that good.

I was testing the bluray player using a VPN and I know it was streaming at 5800 kbps, but then it stopped working maybe because that proxy detection is blocking me now. so different frame rates might be the case of the difference of quality.

Edit: I did some testing with some episodes i found that are @ 6180 kbps, from the native app it looks ok, but not impressive, I put the same episode with the same setting on the laptop connected by hdmi, and renaming the input as BluRay, it looks better. I think the input name has something to do, and thats why the bluray player looked better the other day. but i really dont know whats does different for each input name.

thank you!

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I have a UN50EH5300FXZA and it's intermittently powering off. It seems to be completely random in terms of amount of time the TV is on and frequency of the issue. I have experienced it when using Apple TV, Mac Mini, or Comcast Cable box.

TV is connected via HDMI 2 to a Yamaha receiver, and the receiver handles all input switching between the previously mentioned devices. I have verified all ECO options are off on the TV and the receiver.

Any ideas?
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I have a Samsung UE32EH5000.

Can a expert please tell me this : Does this TV fully support RGB Full color space ? Does it display black levels below 16 ?
I cant find this info anywhere.

I want to make it fully compatible with my PS4, and I know that I have to use either :

PS4 RGB Full + TV HDMI Black level Normal

or

PS4 RGB Limited + TV HDMI Black level Low. The settings have to match.

But I read a lot about this and its said that the best way is to use Limited/limited. I thought the other way is better, I am confused as hell right now. :P
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I'm not claiming to be an expert, but on the picture settings you will find an "Advanced Control" sub-menu, which includes a colour gamut option... one of which is "wide".

IIRC normal TV is transmitted with the full 24-bit colour space, but DVDs use a reduced span. To expand the DVD output to the full contrast ratio available on the TV, you choose a setting named "cinema" (or similar) - but using the cinema setting for input with the full 24 bits results in artifacts ("solarisation") in the dark and light areas when the input has illegal values for the mapping.

In summary, the proper setting for normal TV is what you want.

However, I have to say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder: try both settings for your PS4 and use whichever appears best. If you can't see a difference, it doesn't matter.

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I have a Samsung UE32EH5000.

Can a expert please tell me this : Does this TV fully support RGB Full color space ? Does it display black levels below 16 ?
I cant find this info anywhere.

I want to make it fully compatible with my PS4, and I know that I have to use either :

PS4 RGB Full + TV HDMI Black level Normal

or

PS4 RGB Limited + TV HDMI Black level Low. The settings have to match.

But I read a lot about this and its said that the best way is to use Limited/limited. I thought the other way is better, I am confused as hell right now. :P

I don't own the TV, however...

Since your TV has a "HDMI Black Level" setting, then it does support "Full-range RGB".

For more on this setting, see the "Spoiler!" below:

Spoiler!


As to which setting is better, try it and decide for yourself.

In either case, as long as you have both TV and PS4 matching, you should be okay.


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Okay, we concluded that my tv supports Full RGB, then its best to have it all set on Full/Full (HDMI black level Normal), at least its the best for videogames.

But if I wanted to watch some MKV movie or some Blu Ray, I would have to revert back everything to limited, or not ? Cause I read somewhere that all TV/Blu ray content is made in Limited rgb color space.
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If I play TV through my projector set to "cinema" (ie DVD playback), I get solarisation - so I conclude that UK TV uses the full 24-bit gamut.

I don't know for sure, but I would think Blu-Ray (not being so limited for data capacity) also uses the full gamut. The industry is now talking about High Dynamic Range, which is 30 bits plus.

Regardless, with the TV set to full gamut and a reduced gamut input, I doubt you would notice much difference.
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I have a Samsung UE32EH5000.

Can a expert please tell me this : Does this TV fully support RGB Full color space ? Does it display black levels below 16 ?
I cant find this info anywhere.

I want to make it fully compatible with my PS4, and I know that I have to use either :

PS4 RGB Full + TV HDMI Black level Normal

or

PS4 RGB Limited + TV HDMI Black level Low. The settings have to match.

But I read a lot about this and its said that the best way is to use Limited/limited. I thought the other way is better, I am confused as hell right now. :P
Limited only makes sense for Video content. For Computer and console use. USE FULL.
You are losing information otherwise
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If the TV menu has a selection for black level NORMAL/LOW, then it can accept FULL levels. I would assume if you feed it RGB and it displays it, the set handles it. I used to feed my EN32EH5300 RGB 4:4:4 FULL 12 bit from my Media Center PC and it was happy and pretty. :-)

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Okay, we concluded that my tv supports Full RGB, then its best to have it all set on Full/Full (HDMI black level Normal), at least its the best for videogames.

But if I wanted to watch some MKV movie or some Blu Ray, I would have to revert back everything to limited, or not ? Cause I read somewhere that all TV/Blu ray content is made in Limited rgb color space.

Yes, for movies you should have both the player and TV set to "Limited-range" (HDMI Black Level setting on "low").

As far as setting it to "Full-range" for games, it it not really necessary since you are probably not going to notice much difference anyways. Just try it both ways and see for yourself - if it looks better to you on "Full" than go right ahead and set it to "Full". In either case, the important thing is that they both "match".

My recommendation is: if you are using your console primarily for gaming, than use "Full-range"; if you are primarily using it for watching movies, than just leave it on "Limited-range". Unless of course, you don't mind switching back-and-forth between the two.


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IIRC the setting for each source can be set independently.

Full gamut is the safest - if you send the limited version full-gamut data, the results are not nice. The other way around is OK (just not optimum - but you may not notice).
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Do you guys know if the UN32EH4003 works fine with the PS4 Pro? Because I've been reading that the system is having compatibility issues with the HDMI input of various TVs from Samsung, LG, Vizio, etc. and since the UN32EH4003 is pretty old + only 720p I was wondering if it was safe for me to buy the console. I know the console is mostly aimed at 4k Tvs but don't care about that.
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I just finished calibrating my EN32EH5300 TS01 using my Spyder4. I am in TV news/production (I own a DSC chart and vectorscope!) and I am very anal about things looking natural and perfect! My gold standard for what a TV camera should produce is 60 Minutes interviews, the TV show. The blacks are deep, but just above blacks are not washed out, and faces look perfect, the right color, tone, saturation. As a profession I am a night time news photographer, so the ability to SHOOT very low light and still get black detail without it turning grey is important to me, as is not getting overexposure and clipping in highlights at the same time. I am not a fan of the "flat" look. Anyway, here are my "9300k 1.8 gamma" HTPC settings I use now. The PC is set to limited 16-235 RGB, and I first calibrated the TV with a stock PC HDMI output, then reran the Spyder on the PC after initially getting the TV calibrated on it's own. It is worth mentioning that Gamma 0 on my set = 1.9. The +/- adjustments are simply .1 increments from 1.9 in either direction. I also used the HDMI low black level to increase contrast. These settings took hours to get right, as the Spyder only wants to spit out unsaturated very ugly brown Warm2, with buried blacks if left to it's own judgement. Maybe it gets better deviation figures in ugly brown mode, but it has to uglify everything to get a good average apparently.

Service Menu WB adjustments

Sub Brightness: 112
Red Offset: 129
Green Offset: 127
Blue Offset: 124
Sub Contrast: 117
Red Gain: 137
Green Gain: 127
Blue Gain: 154

MOVIE

Backlight: 20
Contrast: 98
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 50
Color: 39
Tint: G47/R53
Gamma: +1
Colorspace: Native
Colortone: Warm 1

Spyder4 always wanted 98 for contrast, and around 38-39 for color as well as that R53 tint shift, regardless of the other settings tested. Alternate HMDI Normal black level brightness value would be 31, if you prefer a slightly flatter picture. Contrast in Spyder testing for both low/45 and normal/31 blacks at base 0.14cd/m, was just under 1700:1. Adjusting the brightness even 1 notch positive, would bring the black level to 0.28cd/m, and drop the contrast down to 1400:1. Yes, hard to calibrate, due to even the slightest variation causing pretty sizable changes in specs. I use this for watching cable TV on Windows Media Center, very happy, looks as good as the EVF on my broadcast cameras.

Paul Anderegg
this also works for the Sharp HH02, the improvement is abysmal. thank you very much I love my TV once again.

I wonder if the Advanced Settings also works in PC mode, since in this mode I cant change the Color nor Tint, I have started to use PC mode and stream netflix from my laptop as I have the Impression it looks even better this way. But I dont know if I should revert advanced settings, Or I should move the tint and color from my laptop settings, since I cant change the TV in PC mode. Ill appreciate any help. thanks!

Also Id like to add that for sharp panels, few more points on Color makes the image much better, I noticed this since in PC mode the color is fixed at 50, but I dont recommend beyond 45 since it will bleed on more saturated images.
could also anyone confirm that Standard PC mode using netflix on IE Edge, looks better than the TV netflix app?? or
For PC mode Im using similar settings besides Anderegg's as above:
Backlight: 20
Contrast: 98
Brightness: 31/HDMI Black level Normal
Sharpness: 50
Color: 50
Tint: G50/R50
Gamma: +1
Colorspace: Native
Colortone: Warm 1
thanks.

Edit: I changed the settings to Brightness: 31/HDMI Black level Normal and changed my video card to output limited black range, it looks much better now.

I really would like someone in this forum to test the following just so see if i'm right:
is very important to use exactly these values:
  1. Optionally use the advanced Service menu settings from Anderegg's
  2. Connect your laptop to the HDMI DVI input.
  3. Change the input name to PC in the TV sources tools
  4. change your video card to output Limited Color Range (very important) and 59Hz Freq.
  5. change TV video mode to Standard, Contrast: 98, Brightness: 31, HDMI Black level Normal ,Gamma: +1, Colorspace: Native, Colortone: Warm 1
  6. open netflix using Microsoft Edge, and play anything on it. Edge should stream 1080p unlike other browsers.
  7. compare the image vs the built in Netflix app

can you see the difference? which one you like the most?

Edit: I continue testing different options, there is another combination that I like even more:
I switch the Video card output to Full range, changed the TV source name to Bluray, Then I setup the settings just like the ones from Anderegg's settings but instead of Movie mode I'm using standard mode, brightness should be 50-51/HDMI black level Normal. Sharpness I left it at 0, since it introduces noise in Bluray mode.
For some reason, Movie mode makes video noise brighter inside the darks, and in Standard mode, that noise blends much better in the dark areas. I also see more wider colors in both dark and bright areas.this is using netflix from Microsoft Edge browser.

I hope this helps anyone else. I'll continue trying to improve the image to the max. thank you.

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Can somebody help me with some settings for a 46eh5000 from the service menu? I need the values in adc result and white balance.
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Unless you have a calibrator, your only option is to set them up the way they appear best to you. How they appear best to somebody else won't be the best for you, and the point of the settings is that they have been factory calibrated.
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Can somebody help me with some settings for a 46eh5000 from the service menu? I need the values in adc result and white balance.
@bicky1310 these are the default and calibrated values for the UN32EH5300 posted by p5browne some time ago
it might be different for the 46eh5000 but you can try, make sure to take a picture of your original values.

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I tried those but they don't look right to me.
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Please refer to my post 2451.
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Just got a notification on my EH5300 that the YouTube app won't be supported past June 30 2017. I know the TV is older but still how hard would it be to keep the apps updated.

There is no "best", best is what's best for you...

Have you tried searching first?
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