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post #1261 of 2228 Old 01-11-2013, 07:26 PM
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The floor model is 1799.00 and i will still get the 1 yr sony warranty. The 3 year extended warranty through hh gregg is 379... Not sure if its worth spending almost 400 bucks on a warranty. What do u guys think?
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Jave you notice any color trailing while gaming on the set. Especially in the darker areas of the spectrum?
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Hi again guys. So had the tv for a while now and set it to motion flow and it may be a little better. But the more I watch the more I notice this effect and am disappointed. You can see this not even on fast moving images, such as where someone is walking past a background etc its like the tv is reproducing the background around the moving object as it moves past.

Is this just part of having LCD/ led instead of plasma for motion viewing ? Or should I be changing some settings.

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This is not a common general complaint, so what is the source material, e.g. cable broadcast, DVD, Bluray, or what? What's the resolution? If it isn't everything, what are the exact titles?

Ok, from memory everything I am referring to is on free to air TV in Australia. So it's obviously not going to be hd stuff, I would say most stuff would be 576i or some might be lower.

To be honest I haven't specifically checked a blu ray disc for this but it just really jumps out at me in comparison to my 5 year old Panasonic plasma.

Anything specific to check ?

Cheers for the help
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Sony.com says in stock until u try and checkout. Sony rep even told me this. Im in indiana.

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Thanks Danediz. Did not know that.

Please keep us updated.

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The floor model is 1799.00 and i will still get the 1 yr sony warranty. The 3 year extended warranty through hh gregg is 379... Not sure if its worth spending almost 400 bucks on a warranty. What do u guys think?

If you can swing it get it only because you can never be to sure with floor models.
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For those still trying to buy one, Adorama seems to have some in stock for $1999 with free delivery and no sales tax depending on the state you live in.
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For those still trying to buy one, Adorama seems to have some in stock for $1999 with free delivery and no sales tax depending on the state you live in.

Its a no go as well. It says unavailable when you attempt to add to cart.
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Im reading so many people around the forums saying not to get a floor model thats been on all day for a year. Its almost looking like i wont be getting this tv at all which saddens me deeply. Im going to think about it today. The sony rep told me the comparable model is gonna be 2600-2800 for awhile when its released in march... Out of my budget...
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Have you tried ABC Warehouse online..edit not available there either. Looks like a 950 is in your future or 750

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Have you tried ABC Warehouse online..edit not available there either. Looks like a 950 is in your future or 750

Def not a 750. I already have a pos frame dimming samsung. The 850 is everything i wanted and more. I will most likely get the display model with the 3 yr warranty. I dont really see an issue if thers nothing wrong with it but hours used. The sony rep told me its only in 5% of its life.

The 950 just doesnt justify the price jump for me. If i dont grab the 850 i will wait until next xmas time for the 900 to drop to a reasonable price.
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Little update on my side. Received my exchange unit this morning. First one was return due to flashlighting in bot lower corners that even with dynamic les set to standard was visible.

Sad news is the new unit exhibit the same issue, at a different level. I think the corner are worst actually than my original unit. Went back to the store a few minutes ago with pictures and they agreed to try a 3rd exchange, which will occur next Saturday since I can't be home during the week for delivery.

Still crossing my fingers for getting a model which will be better. If at least with dynamic led on, I could eliminate the flashlighting, I would be a happy camper. This tv seems to be the answer to all my requirements. Somewhat low input lag in game mode for games. Better than average view angle for a led tv. I like the motion flow on the Sony since their soap opera effect are set to a minimum. Even got the tv at an amazing price 700$ off regular Canadian pricing).
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Def not a 750. I already have a pos frame dimming samsung. The 850 is everything i wanted and more. I will most likely get the display model with the 3 yr warranty. I dont really see an issue if thers nothing wrong with it but hours used. The sony rep told me its only in 5% of its life.

The 950 just doesnt justify the price jump for me. If i dont grab the 850 i will wait until next xmas time for the 900 to drop to a reasonable price.

Floor models for led isn't as bad as plasma who could show burn in due to the same content all the time. For a led, this might even be a blessing as you can check right away if the screen as defects. If the floor model at my store was a 46 instead of a 55, I'd consider getting it.
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Its a no go as well. It says unavailable when you attempt to add to cart.


That's weird. I did the order on Adorama just this morning and it let me go all the way through the process. It's still pending though. I was also able to add another one just to see what it says and I don't see anything about it being unavailable.
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So Sony is just going to stop selling TVs until the spring? Their going to let their competitors get all the Superbowl TV sales, because they made enough money?

I think you got some bad information, Danediz.

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So Sony is just going to stop selling TVs until the spring? Their going to let their competitors get all the Superbowl TV sales, because they made enough money?

I think you got some bad information, Danediz.

That was from a sony rep. Ill call sony directly today and see.
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That was from a sony rep. Ill call sony directly today and see.

Yeah, it would be good to know for sure.
Too many people at these companies tend to have no idea what they're talking about any more.

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The 950 just doesnt justify the price jump for me. If i dont grab the 850 i will wait until next xmas time for the 900 to drop to a reasonable price.

I'm in the same boat. I was hoping for a little price drop before the Super Bowl and now the 850 is out of stock everywhere I look. I was debating on jumping up to the 950 but it’s just too much for me.

So did the Sony rep say the W900 is the 850 replacement that’s coming out in March? HD Guru states that the W900 is the replacement for the 950, but it’s an edge lit TV.

http://hdguru.com/sonys-2013-hdtv-line-revealed/9750/

The W802, which they state replaces the 750 and 850 models, doesn't mention local dimming...I’m so confused. Maybe I'll just wait a little longer until things become clearer. It's hard to belive they aren't going to sell the 850 model anymore with the Super Bowl right arond the corner.
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I am noticing both horizontal and vertical banding more and more on my 46hx850. Once you notice it and start to look for it, it can become distracting. I may try turning down my back light some and see if the effect diminishes. I think it is something you have to accept with this technology. It really is the only fault that I have with this TV.
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I'm in the same boat. I was hoping for a little price drop before the Super Bowl and now the 850 is out of stock everywhere I look. I was debating on jumping up to the 950 but it’s just too much for me.

So did the Sony rep say the W900 is the 850 replacement that’s coming out in March? HD Guru states that the W900 is the replacement for the 950, but it’s an edge lit TV.

http://hdguru.com/sonys-2013-hdtv-line-revealed/9750/

The W802, which they state replaces the 750 and 850 models, doesn't mention local dimming...I’m so confused. Maybe I'll just wait a little longer until things become clearer. It's hard to belive they aren't going to sell the 850 model anymore with the Super Bowl right arond the corner.

What I find most interesting about most of Sony's 2013 models is that they have gone to passive 3d instead of active 3d like in previous years. The W900 ( replaces the 2012 XBR950 models) and W802 ( replaces the 2012 HX750 and 850 models) are both passive 3d.

Does any know the officail reason why Sony went from active to passive 3d this year? Sony has always talked bad about passive 3d and has made statements against LG tv's with passive 3d.

Funny that they have know taken the approach of passive 3d for their 2013 models.
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Sony.com now officially says sold out frown.gif
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Will be getting delivery of my 55" HX850 within the next couple of hours...will be moving the Panny plasma to the bedroom (50G25). Couple of questions....

What are the best settings for this tv? I see calibration settings from various sources and they are all over the place.

What are the best 3D glasses to use with this set? I have heard the titanium ones are great but they are $100...some people say the $20 ones branded for the PS3 are fantastic??? Are there some non-Sony ones I should consider.

Anything I should look for when testing out this set?

thanks everyone!
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Will be getting delivery of my 55" HX850 within the next couple of hours...will be moving the Panny plasma to the bedroom (50G25). Couple of questions....

What are the best settings for this tv? I see calibration settings from various sources and they are all over the place.

What are the best 3D glasses to use with this set? I have heard the titanium ones are great but they are $100...some people say the $20 ones branded for the PS3 are fantastic??? Are there some non-Sony ones I should consider.

Anything I should look for when testing out this set?

thanks everyone!

Wherd u get yours??
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I ordered it from Futureshop.ca a while ago
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I've been having an issue with my hx853 where on lighter content the outline of the DSE can be seen mostly in the bottom corners, I even went to 3 stores and the other 46" 853 models all have the DSE in the bottom 2 corners. The Dynamic Led will prevent it when in fron of the tv but to the sides it shows up has anyone experianced anything like this and would you consider this normal for an edgelit LED



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This is not a common general complaint, so what is the source material, e.g. cable broadcast, DVD, Bluray, or what? What's the resolution? If it isn't everything, what are the exact titles?

Ok, from memory everything I am referring to is on free to air TV in Australia. So it's obviously not going to be hd stuff, I would say most stuff would be 576i or some might be lower.

To be honest I haven't specifically checked a blu ray disc for this but it just really jumps out at me in comparison to my 5 year old Panasonic plasma.

Anything specific to check ?

Cheers for the help

Nothing specific. It's just there are not a lot of people complaining about what you've described, which makes me suspect there's something unusual about the source material more than anything. The only complaints I recall similar to yours are for the HX950 and are confined to sports, and while the posters are adamant the TV is just plain bad for sports (and nothing else!), I think they're mistaken. It's true some broadcasts are affected, but others are not. For example, Fox NFL games have been really bad about pixelation around players in longer distance shots, like when they zoom out to show both teams lining up for a play. But I see this on my 4-5 year old Sony TVs, too, not just my 46HX850. The issue is not present in a CBS game I still have on the DVR, and it goes away when Fox zooms in on the players. So, the broadcast is definitely a factor. Could the Sony be worse about it than other brands? Sure. But unless one has properly A/B'd the offending recording, I'm doubtful. Comparing LCD to plasma may not be particularly valid here. This is all why I asked you for specific source material, so that others can hopefully report how it looks on their TVs. If it's a really big issue for you, see if you can make a short clip available for download.
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This is not a common general complaint, so what is the source material, e.g. cable broadcast, DVD, Bluray, or what? What's the resolution? If it isn't everything, what are the exact titles?

Ok, from memory everything I am referring to is on free to air TV in Australia. So it's obviously not going to be hd stuff, I would say most stuff would be 576i or some might be lower.

To be honest I haven't specifically checked a blu ray disc for this but it just really jumps out at me in comparison to my 5 year old Panasonic plasma.

Anything specific to check ?

Cheers for the help

Nothing specific. It's just there are not a lot of people complaining about what you've described, which makes me suspect there's something unusual about the source material more than anything. The only complaints I recall similar to yours are for the HX950 and are confined to sports, and while the posters are adamant the TV is just plain bad for sports (and nothing else!), I think they're mistaken. It's true some broadcasts are affected, but others are not. For example, Fox NFL games have been really bad about pixelation around players in longer distance shots, like when they zoom out to show both teams lining up for a play. But I see this on my 4-5 year old Sony TVs, too, not just my 46HX850. The issue is not present in a CBS game I still have on the DVR, and it goes away when Fox zooms in on the players. So, the broadcast is definitely a factor. Could the Sony be worse about it than other brands? Sure. But unless one has properly A/B'd the offending recording, I'm doubtful. Comparing LCD to plasma may not be particularly valid here. This is all why I asked you for specific source material, so that others can hopefully report how it looks on their TVs. If it's a really big issue for you, see if you can make a short clip available for download.



Ok thanks. Is there anything I should be checking settings wise?

What is the best way to get a video that is going to show what I am talking about ?

I see it happening the more I look for it lol

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Going to hh gregg today to pull the trigger on the display model 55hx850 with a 3 yr warranty with hh gregg. I wanted a brand new set but waited too long frown.gif i will of course look over it thoroughly.
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Cannot believe Sony is not going to restock these sets. Unless they figure the new models will be on display by Super Bowl.

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I just bought this TV to replace my old Samsung DLP and tested it on a white background...
I get a dark band right in the middle of the screen, the four corners are also plagued to varying degrees.
The settings I used to calibrate the TV are those suggested by chronitis, which I'm really happy with.
I'm wondering if should I exchange the TV... I heard people going through multiple sets only to settle with ones that have worse problems than their first set frown.gif
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