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HyperC , If you "disable local dimming the screen goes white" ?

Send it flying

Best of luck to you whatever you end up with.

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I am not too familiar with the 3800 or 3500. I would recommend getting the 3700 if possible. It has great range. I would imagine you could pick it up for a good price now that the 3800 is out.
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aaronwalker1974 , thanks for your reply , I appreciate , your advice.

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"Narrow vertical 3D viewing angles;"

The above quote is from the cnet review.

Just how narrow is the vertical viewing angle for both 3D and regular viewing?

I would not be able to wall mount this tv. I will be using a 23" tall a/v cabinet. Also, in order to use my 5 1/2" high center channel speaker, the tv would sit on a 3" tall metal riser. Would something like this take the "sweet spot" out of my viewing angle?

Also, how is the side to side viewing angle with this set?

Thank you for your help.

Steve

My room is 15' wide. I do not find the viewing angles narrow in normal or 3D viewing. I am comparing to my previous Toshiba 50h81 and my current Sharp Aquos 42". I am actually quite impressed at the 3D....viewing angle and all.
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My room is 15' wide. I do not find the viewing angles narrow in normal or 3D viewing. I am comparing to my previous Toshiba 50h81 and my current Sharp Aquos 42". I am actually quite impressed at the 3D....viewing angle and all.

Much appreciated. Thank you.
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HyperC , If you "disable local dimming the screen goes white" ?

Send it flying

Best of luck to you whatever you end up with.

Later .

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Appreciate all the information sir. While HyperC may be a little impolite, I also have the same question concerning the local dimming feature. It seems that to disable local dimming with the high contrast/high backlight does create an issue with a much brighter screen. Does that mean that in order to remove this flashlight/cloudiness that we get we only have the choice of turning the contrast and backlight substantially down and adjusting from there? Maybe this is the same with all LCDs/LEDs?

It seems those of us who prefer the TV a little brighter are going to have to deal with the issues of local dimming.

I love this TV, but this is a substantial issue for me.
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Appreciate all the information sir. While HyperC may be a little impolite, I also have the same question concerning the local dimming feature. It seems that to disable local dimming with the high contrast/high backlight does create an issue with a much brighter screen. Does that mean that in order to remove this flashlight/cloudiness that we get we only have the choice of turning the contrast and backlight substantially down and adjusting from there? Maybe this is the same with all LCDs/LEDs?

It seems those of us who prefer the TV a little brighter are going to have to deal with the issues of local dimming.

I love this TV, but this is a substantial issue for me.

I guess i am not seeing the same stuff you guys are. In a room with light I run Backlight 70, Contrast 85 and Brightness at 50 (expert mode). I keep the local dimming on low and don't see problems with flashlighting or cloudiness. When I turn it into a dark room, I drop the backlight down the 48. The picture appears bright to me at these settings. Does having local dimming set to low make the problems appear? Or go away. And then is the problem that the set doesn't have enough pop?
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Info for those of you researching this model:

It does not have 5.1 passthrough via SPDIF(as of yet)
It downgrades the info to 2.1.


So...3 things I need so far to be completely happy with this TV.
1. Video settings for WIFI content(mainly Trumotion on/off)
2. Video settings for USB content(mainly Trumotion on/off)
3. 5.1 passthrough via SPDIF.
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I don't know of any tv that will take HDMI input and pass through 5.1 I can confirm that netflix app on tv will push 5.1 out vis SPDIF.

Don't take my comments about the hdmi as knowledgeable. I just haven't been able to do it with any TV I have owned.
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I guess i am not seeing the same stuff you guys are. In a room with light I run Backlight 70, Contrast 85 and Brightness at 50 (expert mode). I keep the local dimming on low and don't see problems with flashlighting or cloudiness. When I turn it into a dark room, I drop the backlight down the 48. The picture appears bright to me at these settings. Does having local dimming set to low make the problems appear? Or go away. And then is the problem that the set doesn't have enough pop?

Thank you very much for the response. You bring up a very good point. Maybe I should turn the backlight down at night and have a daytime and a nighttime setting. I'll try it tonight and see if that changes things.

I set the backlight at about 75 and contrast at 90. With those numbers, I can go to a black screen with white lettering(at night) and see the white streaks by adjusting the local dimming. The white streaks I'm referring to are below and above the white lettering or image. Low setting provides the least amount of white streaks. Besides that, local dimming really does help create the deepest blacks for me. When local dimming is turned off, I really see a lot of flashlighting and light leaks at the mentioned settings.

P.S. I just noticed that the white input status line at the top of the screen differs in the level of brightness all the way across. I hope that makes sense. Does anyone else notice that ?
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Hi Guy`s ,

The "Backlight" issues that I am having come from the "edge-lit" array seeping past the first layer of the LCD panel { or last }.

If I turn "Local Dimming" to "Medium or High" it just about goes away , however when I turn the dimming to "Low or Off" , in a darken room it is most notable at the top and both right and left sides of the screen.

Of course that is bound to happen , there really isn`t anyway to :seal: an edge-lit display completely , and there is a work-around by just lowering the backlighting.

What bothers me is that there is NO CONTROL over the picture settings once your in "App-Mode" , the TV is preset , and I confirmed that with LG .

There suggestion was change the setting before you use any of the apps , well I disconnected my Mac-Mini from my cable modem and hard wired it straight to the LM8600 and there was [ is ] no control over picture settings , in fact when I tried I got bounced back to my cable box

Also notable is the backlight bleed , it first appears when your in the dark apps , like trying the 3D apps , then goes away once content appears.

VUDO and Picasa and YouTube are ok with no leakage , so I guess the TV really does control the picture settings for the apps.

I tried some familiar YouTube videos that I have watched with my Mac-Mini , and they are way better with the MM than with the YT apps built into the TV.

Haven`t signed up for anything yet ( still within my return window , but time is running out

Still , I say again and not to sound like a broken record ( cracked CD for the younglings ) , but they should have included a detailed book , ( it would have to be beyond a typical owners manual ) explaining all of the settings in detail and how best to navigate them.

LG , you messed up , BIG time , by not including at least something to go by. IMO

O__well "Once more into the breach"

Later ,

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If I can get this TV for $1699.00 out the door, do you think it is worth it? Just not sold on LGs being a long time Samsung customer. However, I dont want to pay the amount Samsung is wanting for an equivalent TV.
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If I can get this TV for $1699.00 out the door, do you think it is worth it? Just not sold on LGs being a long time Samsung customer. However, I dont want to pay the amount Samsung is wanting for an equivalent TV.

If there is a return policy....yes it would be well worth it. But, apparently, there are some, either bad tvs, or people who just expect way more than the tv is capable of. I really like it, even with a few oversights on LG's part.

Go read the Samsung threads....you see just as many issues as in the LG threads.
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If I can get this TV for $1699.00 out the door, do you think it is worth it? Just not sold on LGs being a long time Samsung customer. However, I dont want to pay the amount Samsung is wanting for an equivalent TV.

I am a long time Samsung fan as well and currently have 2 Samsung HDTVs. I have the 8600 coming in next week and will comparing the PQ of the LG with Samsung. I keep reading that Samsung has better 2D PQ and that LG has better 3d with the passive glasses. I hope the LG looks as good as mine current Samsung as I plan to compare them side by side. I have a 30 day return policy with Amazon with no cost or charge to return it.

If that is your price for a 55" it is the lowest I have seen. I would definitely get it and try it if that have a good return policy.
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I still say this is a great TV. I wish they made a 65 inch version.

Has anyone gotten ARC to work with this TV? I have a Denon 3311 with this LG, but I can't get the LG to send audio back to the receiver. I followed all the instructions necessary ( turning ARC on the TV and HDMI Control on the receiver).
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It won't work with my pioneer sc-25 but that is because it doesn't do HDMI 1.4. No option for ARC. I looked at your model receiver and it appears to support HDMI 1.4. Wasn't able to dive deep enough to see if it supports ARC.
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If I can get this TV for $1699.00 out the door, do you think it is worth it? Just not sold on LGs being a long time Samsung customer. However, I dont want to pay the amount Samsung is wanting for an equivalent TV.

Log into this address > in search box type LG - 47LM8600 > click link under price.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/


Goto > Amazon > Login > type same model # > order > within 14 days of shipment price-match or call and price match when you place the order.

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What size ? 47 or 55 ?
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If I can get this TV for $1699.00 out the door, do you think it is worth it? Just not sold on LGs being a long time Samsung customer. However, I dont want to pay the amount Samsung is wanting for an equivalent TV.

where did you see it for that price?
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Thanks! But I am getting the 55inch for $1699.00 (pulled the trigger). Here is how it went down: I bought the 55lm6700 from Pauls TV at $1349.00. I really wanted the newer model so I went ahead and sent an email through the contact us option telling them I had a certain budget and was willing to spend that on the 8600 if they could help meet me at that price. To my surprise, i received a call that day and the guy said the could help a bit and offered the $1699.00 price. So I scooped it up. Never hurts to try
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Thanks! But I am getting the 55inch for $1699.00 (pulled the trigger). Here is how it went down: I bought the 55lm6700 from Pauls TV at $1349.00. I really wanted the newer model so I went ahead and sent an email through the contact us option telling them I had a certain budget and was willing to spend that on the 8600 if they could help meet me at that price. To my surprise, i received a call that day and the guy said the could help a bit and offered the $1699.00 price. So I scooped it up. Never hurts to try

Damn....I thought you were BSing....I hope you get a good one. I like mine a lot.....even at $1800
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Well I finally receive my TV today after a 3 week wait
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I hope I get a good one too! I was totally surprised how quickly Pauls TV contacted me. Since i have not received the TV yet i will hold any praises about them On a side note, any one know if you can open web pages like firstrowsports on this TV and view the streaming videos they have there?
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I hope I get a good one too! I was totally surprised how quickly Pauls TV contacted me. Since i have not received the TV yet i will hold any praises about them On a side note, any one know if you can open web pages like firstrowsports on this TV and view the streaming videos they have there?

Well, I have opened streaming videos from other websites....I will not give the addresses...it may be frowned upon because of the content.
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I hope I get a good one too! I was totally surprised how quickly Pauls TV contacted me. Since i have not received the TV yet i will hold any praises about them On a side note, any one know if you can open web pages like firstrowsports on this TV and view the streaming videos they have there?

I got my TV from Pauls. Great company to work with. The delivery guys were really good too. They were very careful handling the tv. Of course it could be because I was watching them closely the whole time. BTW...you are killing me on the price. I paid $200 more.
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Well I finally receive my TV today after a 3 week wait

Congrats and good luck!!!
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Thanks Box! Now I am excited... Aaron, one thing I've learned over the years of bargain shopping, always ask if they can do better!
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Well, I have opened streaming videos from other websites....I will not give the addresses...it may be frowned upon because of the content.

can you watch it on full screen? i got the tv coming in next week.
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can you watch it on full screen? i got the tv coming in next week.


Not so far....I can't even fullscreen Youtube, unless I use the Youtube app.

most of the streaming I've seen through the browser is about a 24-30" picture.
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It won't work with my pioneer sc-25 but that is because it doesn't do HDMI 1.4. No option for ARC. I looked at your model receiver and it appears to support HDMI 1.4. Wasn't able to dive deep enough to see if it supports ARC.

Ok, I finally figured it out. In order for ARC to work, you have to have the following things:

1) high speed hdmi cable 1.4a
2) be plugged into the appropriate ARC inputs
3)turn on HDMI CEC on the receiver
4)turn on ARC on the TV sound settings
5)turn on SimpLink on the TV which is equivalent to HDMI CEC

P.S. Of course the TV and receiver have to be ARC compatible.
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Not so far....I can't even fullscreen Youtube, unless I use the Youtube app.

most of the streaming I've seen through the browser is about a 24-30" picture.

Thats to bad. I would of seriously considered cutting my cable. The only thing thats keeping me to cable right now is live sports. maybe in the future with some update we'll be able to have a full screen.
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