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Ok this might be jumping the gun but why not....

http://www.bgr.com/2012/08/21/sony-80-inch-xbr-tv-4k-resolution/
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post #2 of 15 Old 08-21-2012, 07:35 PM
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Nice. The price is a little high though, lol. But it's nice to see Sony releasing such an awesome tv
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30k eek.gif No one will buy it, for that price the tv better come with a maid!biggrin.gif

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LG is $22k, and it's got similar specs. I'm sure the price will drop though, and in a few years it will be $5-6k
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I'm 100% sure that $30K estimate is WAYYY off! They have a 4K front projector on the market now with a MSRP of $25K (street for less) and LGs 4K set, which is supposed to drop in Nov was originally planned to be ~$10K, although the early adopters in Korea have paid a USD equivalent of $21K.

How the hell can you justify that much of a premium over not only a much more desirable front projector from the same company, but something that's priced almost $15K above a much larger sized competitor set??

Sony isn't doing crack as far as I know, so like I said I'm sure that price is way off.

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I am sure street may be lower but it clearly states in various articles on this set that $30k is the suggested price point
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All these initial prices are all over the place, because it will be very small volume until they have a 4K playback solution. We should be hearing something from Sony soon about a dedicated 4K blu-ray player after the Jan 2013 finalization of HEVC. So we could see 4K machine by mid 2013 or December 2013 at the latest with the launch of the PS4K. From what I heard the addition of 4K and the electronics to drive them should only add about 20% to a comparable 1080p set, once they reach some mass production.
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I really question any foundation to this story and it's suggested timelines based upon many facts as Sony has no capability of it's own to produce 80" cuts and they reportedly left their partnership with Sharp and they have been partnering with someone in China but not even China has a 10G plant as Sharp refused to replicate Saiki and would only build China an 8G plant that cannot produce substrates in these sizes economically. No wonder they may be $30K if they are taking an entire substrate to garner a panel.

Sony has been down this asinine road before with their RGB Triluminous 70" at $20-$30K and that didn't work financially - they still lost money. This is like saying you'll build the most advanced PS4 but then charge $5K for it - you wouldn't sell many no matter how good it is. Sony has always been behind the 8 ball dating back to plasma as they rebadged everything and charged more than anyone else and still lost huge money and then they got into LCD late and were forced into joint ventures with Samsung and then Sharp and Bravia did well for awhile but the losses again mounted.

They shut down American Plants and gave the production to Mexico at one seventh the labor costs and still lost money and they cancelled their partnering with Sharp and now turning to the Chinese but China does not have a 10G plant that can replicate an 80" like Sharp. I believe China has Konka that produces about a 70" fat ass giant TV that pretty poor quality.

The only way I could see this is if they are partnering with Sharp since they also have 4K and higher panels larger than 80" in their R&D. This type of story may work for CES in January but to have a production model by years end for $30K and next to no 4K content source makes no sense. Sony needs to take what works and refine it like an HX929 just as Mercedes and BMW has done for decades - tweak and refine and control costs with an eye towards PROFITS otherwise Samsung continues eating your lunch and enjoying your lost profits. This appears to be trade show hype not Consumer reality for a year ends release and at that price who gives a sheet!wink.gif

Just as a side note - 2012 has been the least innovative and boring year I can recall in the past 7 yrs on this forum, outside of Sharp and it's leap into HT + Sizes I see nothing fullfilled that was promised at CES back in early January. Even visiting AV stores and viewing I've not seen a single panel outside an Elite that has delivered anything beyond last year and no WoW factor and it appears 3D is fading away and OLED is a promise unfullfilled again and again - 2012 has been a big YAWNER for AV advances. CES is going to have to deliver something new as the industry seems to be stuck in nuetral!

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Great write up! Thanks.

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According to Cnet sony will show the 4K 84inch LCd at the IFA 2012
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57499411-221/sony-readying-super-sized-84-inch-4k-tv/
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yes , i think so, I am sure street may be lower but it clearly states in various articles on this set that is the suggested price point 51.jpgsmile.gif :
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I'm very upset with Sony right now. I wanted to buy a 65" Sony TV... but they have nothing available except the old 929 model I can't seem to buy anywhere for less than $5000, or the 65HX729, which got mediocre reviews, and while still available, is no longer listed or or available for purchase at Sony.com.

In fact, Sony.com doesn't have ANY TV bigger than 55" listed anymore! I just want an AFFORDABLE 65" or 70" Sony LED, preferably full array.. But no, instead they announce an 80" 4K set that costs as much as car. Sony seems to think people either want small cheap TVs because they're broke, or ginormous future-proof TVs for millionaires.
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According to Cnet sony will show the 4K 84inch LCd at the IFA 2012
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57499411-221/sony-readying-super-sized-84-inch-4k-tv/

The article says it's going to be "side-lit" - I hope not!
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Sony KD-84X9005 review: "stupidly sharp" biggrin.gifeek.gif.

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Sweet TV to be used as a PC monitor with a 690 provided it has good motion response.
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