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I find that warm1 seems to look best. It's not too red like warm2 or too blue like neutral seems to be.
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Post your settings so I can try them out once I get the camera.

Similar to the last ones by Flavius, except backlight at 1 for HDcableTV and 3 for BluRay(dim light environment).
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So far I'm loving this set! No stuck/dead pixels. No banding at all. I was a bit concerned if the 3D performance was going to be as good as the Samsung UN55ES7500, and IMO and to my relief, it is. Thanks to Flavius for checking out the 3D glasses and recommending the PS3 glasses. They feel a little cheap but hey, they work and the price is right. So far I've used the Spears & Munsil Blu-Ray calibration disc and the AVS HD 709 disc to great success. The set seemed to fail one test on the Spears & Munsil disc, the Chroma Multiburst pattern:



This pattern shows repeating red and blue lines either vertically or horizontally. (Don't be concerned with the color or blur, that's just the photographer, I mean the camera) In each box the lines get smaller and closer together. As you can see, the finest vertical pattern is blank except for the outer red and blue line. But it handled the horizontal pattern just fine. If anyone here has the Spears & Munsil disc would you check out that test pattern and let me know what you get? I still have to try going straight from my OPPO BDP-93 player to the XBR just to eliminate my Pioneer SC-37 Elite receiver.

The next step will be to get the Spyder4ELITE. But that will have to wait for the end of December or the beginning of January.
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I find that warm1 seems to look best. It's not too red like warm2 or too blue like neutral seems to be.

Gotta say..I'm with you on this one. The neutral setting has a definite bluish hue to it. Warm 2 is too red/orange. Warm 1, to me, is the perfect mid ground for the color. I like a "cinema" type viewing experience with a bit of a warmer pic, but warm 2 on the 950 is just too warm. Warm 1 with a lil white balance adjustment suits me perfectly.

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Is there any way to see the firmware version for the XBR-55HX9​50?
Does anyone know how to get into the service menu?
So far I'm loving this set! No stuck/dead pixels. No banding at all. I was a bit concerned if the 3D performance was going to be as good as the Samsung UN55ES7500, and IMO and to my relief, it is. Thanks to Flavius for checking out the 3D glasses and recommending the PS3 glasses. They feel a little cheap but hey, they work and the price is right. So far I've used the Spears & Munsil Blu-Ray calibration disc and the AVS HD 709 disc to great success. The set seemed to fail one test on the Spears & Munsil disc, the Chroma Multiburst pattern:

This pattern shows repeating red and blue lines either vertically or horizontally. (Don't be concerned with the color or blur, that's just the photographer, I mean the camera) In each box the lines get smaller and closer together. As you can see, the finest vertical pattern is blank except for the outer red and blue line. But it handled the horizontal pattern just fine. If anyone here has the Spears & Munsil disc would you check out that test pattern and let me know what you get? I still have to try going straight from my OPPO BDP-93 player to the XBR just to eliminate my Pioneer SC-37 Elite receiver.
The next step will be to get the Spyder4ELITE. But that will have to wait for the end of December or the beginning of January.

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I just got done reading the review of the HX850 in Home Theater Magazine and unless I missed something no where did I see they gave the HX850 a higher rating then the 929. But I have read on other websites that the HX850 performed and looked just as good as the 929. Like one person already said "Trust your eyes".

The rating was in the number of stars given.
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Tonight I will be testing out the 3D on my 55" 950 for the first time. I have Prometheus Blu-Ray, as well as HBO and Starz On Demand 3D Content.

Does the tv recognize when there is 3D content, or is there a setting I have to toggle on?
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Went to my BB and have my two Panny Plasmas going back and paid the difference for a couple 65" 950s. They deliver on thursday this week. Crossing my fingers for no dead or stuck pixels and otherwise good panels. I hate switching TVs out, but at this price point, it should be perfect. I'll update you guys with my results once I have them in.1.gif

Well with the 65" get ready to be BB 2nd home. you have a great chance on getting vertical banding, and a good chance of at least one stuck/dead pixel. if both of your sets are free from the mentioned defects than you should play Wednesday's 425 million dollar powerball drawing. that is if your state participates in that.

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I tested 3 sets yesterday and they all are plagued with the same problem. I am lucky to have one dead pixel on mine but all the others were so much worse. How did you test for the dead pixel ? I ran RGB solid backgrounds and were able to see them from a 3 feet distance as well as 5 feet. I did this on the 65 inch models only. So i believe the bigger the panel, the more chance of having a dead pixel.
Since I tested 3 sets at the same store, it could be that its just this lot. But from the majority of users here who own a 65 has either a banding issue or a dead pixel.
I will test the patterns out on a 60" ELITE and other Samsung LEDs, if those dont have a problem hell with Sony and their cheap work.

How do you run the RGB solid backgrounds.
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Just tested Prometheus 3D on my ps3, and wow, it blew me away! There was a lot of depth in the beginning when the Engineer is by the waterfall and drinks the black liquid. The scenes on the ship with the holograms really amazed me as well, can't wait to watch the whole movie.

I used the ps3 glasses, and the picture was not affected when I moved my head. The only negative is the bottom corners are very reflective. That's the only issue I had with them. Has anyone found glasses that handle the picture as well as the ps3 glasses, without the reflection?
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Here is a quick update from my bad pixel saga.
Amazon delivered 65" replacement today. I asked CEVA delivery guys to give me 15 min to test and they waited for me.
After initial setup, I switched to my HDMI input and run few colors on whole screen - immediately noticed cluster of few bad pixel in the location around the center of the screen.
It was much worse than my 1st set.
Besides i saw few banding's in the right side of the screen.
I refused this TV, they took it back.

Not sue if I want to contact Amazon for another one. Seems I should live with 1 dead pixel as you never know what are you going to get next.
My original set has no Bandings that I can see.
Pretty sad with Sony Quality control.
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Here is a quick update from my bad pixel saga.
Amazon delivered 65" replacement today. I asked CEVA delivery guys to give me 15 min to test and they waited for me.
After initial setup, I switched to my HDMI input and run few colors on whole screen - immediately noticed cluster of few bad pixel in the location around the center of the screen.
It was much worse than my 1st set.
Besides i saw few banding's in the right side of the screen.
I refused this TV, they took it back.
Not sue if I want to contact Amazon for another one. Seems I should live with 1 dead pixel as you never know what are you going to get next.
My original set has no Bandings that I can see.
Pretty sad with Sony Quality control.

thanks for the update
were you able to record S/N and manuf date?
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Here is a quick update from my bad pixel saga.
Amazon delivered 65" replacement today. I asked CEVA delivery guys to give me 15 min to test and they waited for me.
After initial setup, I switched to my HDMI input and run few colors on whole screen - immediately noticed cluster of few bad pixel in the location around the center of the screen.
It was much worse than my 1st set.
Besides i saw few banding's in the right side of the screen.
I refused this TV, they took it back.
Not sue if I want to contact Amazon for another one. Seems I should live with 1 dead pixel as you never know what are you going to get next.
My original set has no Bandings that I can see.
Pretty sad with Sony Quality control.


For the price you did the right thing buddy......................right now i want to get the 55 inch but i am scared. I don't know if i should wait until super bowl next year when its much cheaper to get it, and thus less buyers remorse if i get some dead pixels lol.
I own the the Panasonic gt 50/60 inch and its not perfect but no dead pixels or banding although the technology is totally different.
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Hi guys,
Just bought an 55 inch HX950 last night, should arrive in 3 days or so.
Very excited.
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Hi guys,
Just bought an 55 inch HX950 last night, should arrive in 3 days or so.
Very excited.

Where did you buy it may i ask, because i have seen deals from companies offering free bluray player and wall mount
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Where did you buy it may i ask, because i have seen deals from companies offering free bluray player and wall mount

I went with Crutchfield as I had some reward points to use.
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I used the ps3 glasses, and the picture was not affected when I moved my head. The only negative is the bottom corners are very reflective. That's the only issue I had with them. Has anyone found glasses that handle the picture as well as the ps3 glasses, without the reflection?


Yes! These ones:

http://www.xpand.me/products/youniversal-3d-glasses/

I use them with my 920 (Europe version of 929) and the 3D (with the 920 updated with the last fw) is amazing!
Of course no "head tilt issue"... wink.gif
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Same here. I received my 65hx950 on Monday from Amazon. It’s an October build with a dead pixel in the center; no banding. I called Amazon and a replacement is due next week. This time I will do the same, have Ceva wait while I am testing for dead pixels and banding.
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The build date only refers to the date TV was assembled and not the build / manufacture date of the LED panel, that info is directly on the LED panel itself, and is inaccessible without removing the back of the display panel..

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I know some have already stated this and someone else said it was fixed after a firmware update but I didn't notice the improvement....

Though this TV is obviously and noticeably better in PQ than my previous Sony HDTV, the broadcast TV really doesn't seem to be all that great. Before I always thought it was that my OTA signal was so much better than all my friends cable signal but I guess it was the TV. I also went from a 40 inch to 55 inch TV so maybe the larger size makes an impact to how the signal looks but I no longer get that 'wow' effect from watching TV (while I do when watching movies etc). I have updated the firmware to no effect.

Also, on my old TV, if I was watching a movie all I had to do watch push the channel button and the TV switched HDMI inputs and went to broadcast TV mode, now I have to push the tv input button (which I don't have room for on my universal remote) then select the input I want. Not a big deal but at the moment it requires 2 remotes and several button pushes - is there a way to change this?
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I just wanted to give an update on my 2 65 inch Sony 950 model TVs. Last week I spoke with their national relations department he was offering me a paltry three-month extension as an I'm sorry on the banding issues on my television set. I had ask them for another solution such as additional pairs of 3-D glasses or something else in lieu of that as I wanted something tangible if I was going to live with this defect. They had already declined replacing my second television and had only offered instead a refund. The refund would've been for the purchase price of the television, and would've Excluded tax as well as taken 4 to 6 weeks to refund. Last week I contacted them before Thanksgiving to offer up an additional solution to the problem, of which the national relations representative didn't ever feel interested in listening to, only quoting notes. I was given their email to email the head of the national relations department and told that their head would get back in touch with me within a few business days. After those days had lapsed I finally called them again this morning to inquire as to the status. The department's head of national relations was so complacent and lazy that she didn't even bother to speak with me and only have the same rude rep get back on the phone with me.

So here is the takeaway. The good sets are just that, good. If you get a bad set, Sony feels an extra 3 months of warranty extension is going above and beyond. I purchased the sets so I wouldn't need a warranty in 15 months. So if I am to realize any benefit, it needed to be something else.

So it's taken numerous swaps on one to get a good panel without banding or pixels, or fuzz under the glass. I wonder how many more till the second one is good. This set will be fine for the current period, but when technology changes and I'm in the market again, Sony is being force ranked down there with Samsung. When you cost cut so to save a few bucks, I wonder how much they have lost in all the returned sets from defects?

I also thought it humorous how Sony on my last call said they had spoken with legal. Is this supposed to scare me? What are they gonna do. If you want to intimidate your customers, try doing it in a class of product that's less expensive. Most people buying these sets are educated well to do folks that have a good head on their shoulders. Not some gullible sap from the street corner. Bravo Sony, Bravo.

Hopefully this doesn't come across as a rant as I like the set. It's unfortunately the best "set" on the market for the buck. The elite hasn't been updated and it's underlying issues disqualified it. But the panel and aesthetics are very nice looking. It's frustrating, but companies these days baffle me on some of their business decisions.
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I know some have already stated this and someone else said it was fixed after a firmware update but I didn't notice the improvement....
Though this TV is obviously and noticeably better in PQ than my previous Sony HDTV, the broadcast TV really doesn't seem to be all that great. Before I always thought it was that my OTA signal was so much better than all my friends cable signal but I guess it was the TV. I also went from a 40 inch to 55 inch TV so maybe the larger size makes an impact to how the signal looks but I no longer get that 'wow' effect from watching TV (while I do when watching movies etc). I have updated the firmware to no effect.
Also, on my old TV, if I was watching a movie all I had to do watch push the channel button and the TV switched HDMI inputs and went to broadcast TV mode, now I have to push the tv input button (which I don't have room for on my universal remote) then select the input I want. Not a big deal but at the moment it requires 2 remotes and several button pushes - is there a way to change this?

Cable TV even in HD doesn't look great out of the box, but you can make it look much better by playing with all the settings. And yes, screen size will have a big impact on perceived 1080i signal quality.
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Cable TV even in HD doesn't look great out of the box, but you can make it look much better by playing with all the settings. And yes, screen size will have a big impact on perceived 1080i signal quality.

On anything sub-1080p and especially cable tv with all the compression is going to always look better the smaller the screen is. I would say that's the main reason it doesn't look as good as before on the 40"

Once you feed the tv good quality signals such as 1080p games/movies or even 720p gaming from consoles the pq should look really good. Of course the bigger size will require sitting further back in order to look as sharp as a smaller size from a closer distance, but the more immersive experience from the bigger screen is well worth moving your chair a few feet back IMHO.
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Gotta say..I'm with you on this one. The neutral setting has a definite bluish hue to it. Warm 2 is too red/orange. Warm 1, to me, is the perfect mid ground for the color. I like a "cinema" type viewing experience with a bit of a warmer pic, but warm 2 on the 950 is just too warm. Warm 1 with a lil white balance adjustment suits me perfectly.

I don't even bother changing the white balance. I think warm1 on default white balance looks just about perfect.

I would recommend anyone using neutral/warm2 now to try out warm1 and see how you like it.
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I don't even bother changing the white balance. I think warm1 on default white balance looks just about perfect.
I would recommend anyone using neutral/warm2 now to try out warm1 and see how you like it.

I watched the Dark Knight Rises(BluRay) yesterday and I had to switch from neutral to cool to decrease the copper flesh tones of the movie.
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Has anyone put together and posted a series of test pics to look for banding/dead pixels?

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Has anyone put together and posted a series of test pics to look for banding/dead pixels?

There are several pictures throughout the thread of these problems.

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this what can be used when you connects PC / Laptop for initial check and calibration
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
http://jasonfarrell.com/misc/deadpixeltest.php
http://www.gdargaud.net/Hack/DeadPixels.html
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Has anyone tinkered with the 3D Depth setting at all? I only tested for a few minutes at default 0 and it looked good to me.
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