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Your the man! I emailed vizio and they said they would get back to me today because the tape measure was "locked up" and wouldnt have access til morning.

Still no reply.

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Your the man! I emailed vizio and they said they would get back to me today because the tape measure was "locked up" and wouldnt have access til morning.

Still no reply.

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I measure 24 and 7/8" from bottom of TV to top mounting hole. The two holes are 16 inches apart top to bottom and 16 inches apart left to right as well. If you are looking to build a center speaker shelf you could do what I did. Buy two metal shelf rack rails, and two metal shelf arms, a wooden shelf, and a couple of dowels to help support the weight. The whole thing only cost about $30 and I was able to put it together in a night. It is very sturdy and if you cut the dowels right there should be very little stress on the TV. I put felt under the feet of dowels so as not to scratch my TV stand. The dowels are not screwed into the TV stand it is just setting on there. I used two sided dowel screws to attach the shelf to the dowels.  Here are some pics:

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Your the man! I emailed vizio and they said they would get back to me today because the tape measure was "locked up" and wouldnt have access til morning.

Still no reply.

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I measure 24 and 7/8" from bottom of TV to top mounting hole. The two holes are 16 inches apart top to bottom and 16 inches apart left to right as well. If you are looking to build a center speaker shelf you could do what I did. Buy two metal shelf rack rails, and two metal shelf arms, a wooden shelf, and a couple of dowels to help support the weight. The whole thing only cost about $30 and I was able to put it together in a night. It is very sturdy and if you cut the dowels right there should be very little stress on the TV. I put felt under the feet of dowels so as not to scratch my TV stand. The dowels are not screwed into the TV stand it is just setting on there. I used two sided dowel screws to attach the shelf to the dowels.  Here are some pics:


Wow I really like that. Its the inverse of my idea.

I plan to mount 2 2x4s (slightly narrower than the center speaker so they are hidden) and mount the angle steel with holes in it from home depot (not sure of the actual name) on top of the 2x4s, then mount the same on the back of the TV. Bolt, angle steel, nut with some excess bolt hanging out and you just hang it off the mounted angle steel. Cheap, effective and extremely low profile. You can also pass a standard padlock through it if you are paranoid. I had one mounted on the wall at my old place but I don't want to put any holes in the wall since the new landlord is an ass. My tv cabinet was free and I'll probably re-finish it in a more contemporary finish. 4amajume.jpg

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I just got around to using the Disney WOW calibration disc last night and I got to say I am a little disappointed. The first brightest test was basically the same brightness test you see at the beginning of any and video game, and there was no calibration tool for backlight setting. Then you move on to color and hue and the instructions for that test are basically to adjust picture until it looks good. Very ambiguous and not very helpful. The last test is sharpness, and once again the instructions are pretty ambiguous with it basically stating adjust sharpness until picture is sharp, but be careful not to do it too much. I basically came away with the same picture settings I went in with. I only tried the basic calibration tools so far, hopefully the intermediate tools will be better.

 

Also the test has you select what type of TV to calibrate for, but your only options are LCD, Plasma, CRT, and Projection. No LED!? Seems that is the most common type of TV sold today. I guess you are suppose to use LCD setting if you have an LED TV,  but I thought there were some difference between these types of TV's right?

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This TV is an LCD with an LED backlight. The LCD panels aren't different because they use a different backlight.
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I just got around to using the Disney WOW calibration disc last night and I got to say I am a little disappointed. The first brightest test was basically the same brightness test you see at the beginning of any and video game, and there was no calibration tool for backlight setting. Then you move on to color and hue and the instructions for that test are basically to adjust picture until it looks good. Very ambiguous and not very helpful. The last test is sharpness, and once again the instructions are pretty ambiguous with it basically stating adjust sharpness until picture is sharp, but be careful not to do it too much. I basically came away with the same picture settings I went in with. I only tried the basic calibration tools so far, hopefully the intermediate tools will be better.

Also the test has you select what type of TV to calibrate for, but your only options are LCD, Plasma, CRT, and Projection. No LED!? Seems that is the most common type of TV sold today. I guess you are suppose to use LCD setting if you have an LED TV,  but I thought there were some difference between these types of TV's right?
I don't consider the WoW disc to be in any way a serious calibrations source. Spears and Munsil would be a step in the right direction. About all you can do with any source disc is brightness, contrast, sharpness, color and tint and evaluate for video processing errors.

Setting backlight is largely personal preference. You would need a meter to measure light output if you wanted to set it to a spec. Although there are general recommendations, like 35 Ft L for dark room and 60 Ft L for a sunlit room, it's personal preference. I run it with more light output than that. To get white balance and color gamut calibrated (if the TV offers these settings) requires a meter ($150-250 for baseline meter), calibration software (HCFR is free) and a test pattern source disc (AVS HD709 is free).
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I don't consider the WoW disc to be in any way a serious calibrations source. Spears and Munsil would be a step in the right direction. About all you can do with any source disc is brightness, contrast, sharpness, color and tint and evaluate for video processing errors.

Setting backlight is largely personal preference. You would need a meter to measure light output if you wanted to set it to a spec. Although there are general recommendations, like 35 Ft L for dark room and 60 Ft L for a sunlit room, it's personal preference. I run it with more light output than that. To get white balance and color gamut calibrated (if the TV offers these settings) requires a meter ($150-250 for baseline meter), calibration software (HCFR is free) and a test pattern source disc (AVS HD709 is free).


Well I moved onto the advanced calibration test which were much better (actually scientific vs. what looks good) as far as the color and hue settings go, so the disney disc does cover the basics: brightness, contrast, color, and hue. So I think it served me well enough. I was just expecting a bit more. My settings did change a bit for brightness and contrast using the more advanced calibration test, and my color was definitely set way too high previously. Overall though, the before and after in the PQ doesn't seem that big to me, I doubt my girlfriend will even notice I changed anything. I can only imagine that any further professional adjustments will just be marginal adjustments to spec, and I doubt it could possible increase picture quality enough to warrant the extra expense. Overall I am pretty happy with the picture quality of this TV. I know the enthusiasts think we are insane for liking these bright TV's with their uneneven back lighting. But I would rather have bright TV with imperfect blacks, then a dark TV with perfect blacks, but thats just me, and I know nothing. Other than hey thats pretty cool looking.

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I have the Disney WOW BluRay and I don't think it's as good as the Digital Video Essentials disc that I've used in the past, but it does have the tools you need and it seems easier to use than the higher end tools. I think for the price, this is a nice tool and it can help someone who's not a videophile to quickly improve their out of the box picture. The next step up is the DVE disc, and then Spears.
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I know, but I would rather punch in the CNET settings first and then adjust from there. Also it would be easier and I never really trust my own eye that much.

Or just use the spreadsheet that I have linked in my sig.

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I have the Disney WOW BluRay and I don't think it's as good as the Digital Video Essentials disc that I've used in the past, but it does have the tools you need and it seems easier to use than the higher end tools. I think for the price, this is a nice tool and it can help someone who's not a videophile to quickly improve their out of the box picture. The next step up is the DVE disc, and then Spears.

Find a disk you like and stick with it. You'll go crazy comparing results between the disks.
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Hi Everyone.....I have not been on here in awhile but I updated a thread I started here

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1450621/vizio-e601-a3-how-long-have-you-had-this-unit/180#post_24769432
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Have any of yall noticed problems with this TV during dark scenes? Basically I can't see anything during dark scenes particularly when watching Game of Thrones and mad men. I have calibrated my TV using the Disney WOW disc and ended up with:

 

Backlight-  90 (No calibration test)

Brightness - 52

Contrast - 76

 

With these settings you can't see anything during dark scenes. Most of the screen is pure black. If I turn up to 60, you can start to make out images but its still way to dark. Really to be able make out most of the picutre you have to turn up the brightness to 75 or 80, which leaves a very noticeable grey hue to everything. The greyness isn't as noticeable in bright scenes but is still present.

I have tried using the Black detail setting in the advanced options, but from what I can tell this seems to actually make dark scenes darker, and it applies mkaes parts of the picture to seem very over saturated. Try turning it on during a scene when a carachter has a bit of a shadow falling over them and look at their face with this setting enabled. Especially darker scenes.

 

What setting are yall using for brightness and contrast, also what picture mode (Standard, Calibrated, etc.)?

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I too fought through the darkness issue on my 2014 (firmware V1.25.*) Vizio.  The trick (at least with this firmware) is to realize that the brightness and contrast controls don't actually do anything meaningful.  You will see them work when actively adjusting them, but they will revert to dark upon the slightest of events, such as power cycling the unit or having a Netflix stream re-buffer.  So, return these controls to their defaults (50 and 80 I believe), and instead use the Color Tuner offsets and gains.

 

My main setting: backlight 90, color 67, sharpness 100

Advanced: temperature as "computer" -- everything else "off"

Color Tuner: offsets +37, gains -10

These are based strictly on personal preference and haven't done any calibration.  Be sure to set these up for every utilized input, including within the TV's Netflix/YouTube if used.

 

Another issue with the firmware is that the TV can sometimes get stuck starting up if HDMI-CEC is used.  Be sure that feature is disabled in the TV and A/V receiver -- you do unfortunately lose Audio Return Channel as well.

 

For the lack of the Amazon streaming service (even though heavily advertised on the box and remote), go ahead and add an external box such as the new $50 Roku stick -- and enjoy the large selection of independent content that's also present.  I don't foresee future TV firmware activities at this point.

 

A lip-synch issue may develop for certain sources that are plugged directly in the TV.  Though it may be possible to tweak a timing/delay setting, I'm afraid that may add overall latency and therefore impact possible gaming interests.  A cleaner (though $$) workaround is to use a modern HDMI-switching A/V receiver, such as the Yamaha RX-V475.  Another benefit is that I was able to retire the TV's remote since the Yamaha's is a universal.

 

Best of luck and hoping this helps!

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Even better than a laptop is a small desktop, with a remote keyboard with a trackball or touchpad.  I have my computer hidden behind my E601i-A3E.  I do my computing and my TV watching from the comfort of my recliner, across the room.  It's great!

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What are you using for your remote keyboard? Right now I just have a keyboard plugged into USB hub on my entertainment console. The keyboard is huge and pain to wrap the wire up and stow away when finished. I have my computer in a completely different room, running a 50 ft. HDMI, and a couple of active USB extension cables plugged into power USB hub for all the input devices.

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What version of firmware are yall running. I had CEC and HDMI pass through with my receiver working perfrectly then I had to do a factor reset when I could no longer log onto Netflix. Now the only way I can get CEC functions to work is to disable HDMI passthrough on my receiver not a big deal but annoying that this TV doesn't work right none the less.

 

Edit, the other thing I did to get CEC working on this TV (where the TV doesn't constantly lock up everytime your turn it on) is to use an optical cable for sending audio to a receiver instead of using Audio Return Channel.

 

If you use optical instead of ARC and disable HDMI pass through on your reciever, and by that I mean pass through for when the receiver is off, then you should be able to get CEC to consistently work. It has for me anyway.

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The best remote keyboard I've found to use with the computer feeding my Vizio E601i-A3E is a Logitech K400r.  It's a smallish, but not tiny, keyboard wirh a touchpad.  It uses a USB dongle plugged into a USB port on the computer.  It'll supposedly work from up to 30 feet or so from the computer.  In my case, I'm only about 10 feet from my computer, which is located behind my TV.  I don't know what to suggest for a computer located as far away as yours.  You'd need a longish USB extension cable just to het close enough for the remote keyboard to work.

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The best remote keyboard I've found to use with the computer feeding my Vizio E601i-A3E is a Logitech K400r.  It's a smallish, but not tiny, keyboard wirh a touchpad.  It uses a USB dongle plugged into a USB port on the computer.  It'll supposedly work from up to 30 feet or so from the computer.  In my case, I'm only about 10 feet from my computer, which is located behind my TV.  I don't know what to suggest for a computer located as far away as yours.  You'd need a longish USB extension cable just to het close enough for the remote keyboard to work.


USB length isn't a problem my computer is 50 ft away but I have a USB hub in the same room as the TV. Running the USB wasn't easy as you can only go about 16 ft at a time with USB before you need to boost the signal, which means you have use a powered USB hub or some sort of active USB extension cable, I am using a combination of the two and it works.

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i had a new update today for e601-a3 v1.34.23.0090. Did anyone else get this update or know what all was updated?

So far Ive noticed the Amazon app added (fixed) and the following also:

1)Wide has been added if you go to picture > Advanced setting. Then you see "Wide" was added right after film mode.

2) I also noticed that another option under picture settings was fixed. If you go from custom mode to other picture modes all of the setting (color, tint, etc.) changed accordingly rather going back to default picture mode settings when you switch from one picture mode to the next.

3) The last change I noticed is that I am now able to see the Users Manual on the TV. Before this would not appear.



There may be other thngs also that were added or fixed but this is all I see so far. I don't know why Vizeo don't send out an e-mail of things that were updated with each firmware upgrade. If they do where do you go about seeing this information?
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did anyone else get this update or know what all was updated?
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My e701i-a3 was updated to that version as well a couple days ago. It looks like it just adds the Amazon app.
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My e701i-a3 was updated to that version as well a couple days ago. It looks like it just adds the Amazon app.

So far Ive noticed the Amazon app added as well and the following also:

1)Wide has been added if you go to picture > Advanced setting. Then you see "Wide" was added right after film mode.

2) I also noticed that another option under picture settings was fixed. If you go from custom mode to other picture modes all of the setting (color, tint, etc.) changed accordingly rather going back to default picture mode settings when you switch from one picture mode to the next.

3) The last change I noticed is that I am now able to see the Users Manual on the TV. Before this would not appear.

 

There may be other thngs also that were added or fixed but this is all I see so far.  I don't know why Vizeo don't send out an e-mail of things that were updated with each firmware upgrade.  If they do where do you go about seeing this information?

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Hey guys, anyone know how to deal with an E601 that turns itself off about 10-15 seconds after it's turned on, with a loud pop accompanying the turn off? After that, it just does the same thing (turns on and off) forever until you unplug the power.

Rich cousin left us hers, and it worked at her house just fine (had it hooked to DirectTV I think). I managed to do a factory reset in the 10-15 second period after learning the menu a few times, but that didn't help the on and off. It's just Vizio logo, image, pop, 5-10 seconds, repeat. Could it be that someone broke something carrying it over here? I think they were pretty careful, but I bet they did it in the back of a pickup.

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Edit: I've read a bunch of similar-ish problems online, but never this one exactly. I tried the 60 second power button hold as well.

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I had this exact issue with a Samsung. It was a burst capacitor on the circuit board that controls the power. If you can solder it's a quick cheap repair.

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Hey guys, anyone know how to deal with an E601 that turns itself off about 10-15 seconds after it's turned on, with a loud pop accompanying the turn off? After that, it just does the same thing (turns on and off) forever until you unplug the power.

Rich cousin left us hers, and it worked at her house just fine (had it hooked to DirectTV I think). I managed to do a factory reset in the 10-15 second period after learning the menu a few times, but that didn't help the on and off. It's just Vizio logo, image, pop, 5-10 seconds, repeat. Could it be that someone broke something carrying it over here? I think they were pretty careful, but I bet they did it in the back of a pickup.

Cheers.

Edit: I've read a bunch of similar-ish problems online, but never this one exactly. I tried the 60 second power button hold as well.
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I had this exact issue with a Samsung. It was a burst capacitor on the circuit board that controls the power. If you can solder it's a quick cheap repair.
Thanks much! Relayed this to my soldering guy. Now just a matter of seeing if he's competent.
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Thought I would post this here as well. Really hope I can find some answers.

I bought this unit back Feb 1st of this year. I got it home and loved the picture. After a few days I started to notice some smearing and ghosting when in dark scenes. For instance when in Splinter Cell Blacklist if I have Sam crouch and walk behind a barricade in a dimly lit area I will see a glow around him and pretty bad ghosting. I contacted Vizio who sent someone out to repair the unit. He said he had never seen anything like it before. The repair did nothing. After that I got sick and long story short wasn't able to recontact Vizio until the end of May. When I did they sent out a replacement which arrived today. After hooking it up I'm seeing the same thing. There is NO ghosting or smearing when in bright or light scenes only in the darker ones.

I call vizio back and now they are saying that there isn't anything wrong with the unit. That even though they sent someone out and replaced it for this exact issue once, they are claiming it's working as intended. So can anyone who has this unit tell me if they are experiencing the same low light smearing and ghosting?! Thanks ahead of time!!
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Thought I would post this here as well. Really hope I can find some answers.

I bought this unit back Feb 1st of this year. I got it home and loved the picture. After a few days I started to notice some smearing and ghosting when in dark scenes. For instance when in Splinter Cell Blacklist if I have Sam crouch and walk behind a barricade in a dimly lit area I will see a glow around him and pretty bad ghosting. I contacted Vizio who sent someone out to repair the unit. He said he had never seen anything like it before. The repair did nothing. After that I got sick and long story short wasn't able to recontact Vizio until the end of May. When I did they sent out a replacement which arrived today. After hooking it up I'm seeing the same thing. There is NO ghosting or smearing when in bright or light scenes only in the darker ones.

I call vizio back and now they are saying that there isn't anything wrong with the unit. That even though they sent someone out and replaced it for this exact issue once, they are claiming it's working as intended. So can anyone who has this unit tell me if they are experiencing the same low light smearing and ghosting?! Thanks ahead of time!!
When I first got mine I noticed the ghosting and smearing in dark scenes as well. Lowering the Backlight level and disabling all the automatic backlight settings helped. Also turning off smooth motion effect helped as well. When I play games I always set the TV to Game picture mode as this is the only picture mode that doesn't have input lag. Unfortunately you can't make any picture adjustments to game mode or it will revert to a custom picture mode setting and the input lag will come right back. Fortunately though I have never noticed the ghosting in game mode or any other mode for a long time now. I almost want to say that the ghosting was something that only happened temporarily when I first bought the TV, and has since stopped. Maybe the TV just needed a burn in period. I don't know, but you say you bought yours back in February is that right? If Vizio won't service it or take it back, try taking it back to where you bought it. I know Best Buy will usually let you make a warranty replacement in store, and will handle shipping the old unit back to the manufacturer for you.

Okay re-reading your post now and I see you got a new unit. My suggestion is to run it for a few days with a variety of programming, or maybe using burn in program. I am pretty sure the Wonderful Word of Disney calibration disc has some sort of burn in or frozen pixel program you can run. Like I said mine only ghosted for a short time after I bought it, so it may go away with a little use.

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Thanks for your reply. After my first repair while I was on bed rest I used the Disney blu-ray and the problem persisted. I have done TONS of reading and I see that there are a few other people having similar issues but not with this particular unit. My main issue is with vizio at this point saying that this is normal. If it were normal would they have sent out a repair tech and did a replacement? I called geeksquad where I got the extended warranty after hearing a few vizio horror stories. After talking to someone in the store and at the 1800 number neither person I spoke to were familiar with this issue. They are sending someone out Saturday to do a repair after me explaining the issue.

One other thing. I was trying to research as much as I could and I came across a review of a TV from last year on CNET. In the review (I believe it was an LG) they mention it had some smearing which was an issue the review said they hadn't seen in a long time. The CNET review for the E601i unit didn't mention any smearing. So I'm just as confused about if this is a "few unit" problem or a wide spread thing.
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Any other owners of this unit willing to chime in. I would be grateful for your input!
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i had a new update today for e601-a3 v1.34.23.0090. Did anyone else get this update or know what all was updated?

So far Ive noticed the Amazon app added (fixed) and the following also:

1)Wide has been added if you go to picture > Advanced setting. Then you see "Wide" was added right after film mode.

2) I also noticed that another option under picture settings was fixed. If you go from custom mode to other picture modes all of the setting (color, tint, etc.) changed accordingly rather going back to default picture mode settings when you switch from one picture mode to the next.

3) The last change I noticed is that I am now able to see the Users Manual on the TV. Before this would not appear.



There may be other thngs also that were added or fixed but this is all I see so far. I don't know why Vizeo don't send out an e-mail of things that were updated with each firmware upgrade. If they do where do you go about seeing this information?
Has anyone else received the v1.34.23.0090 update for their E601-A3? Has the Color Management System (CMS) been changed to one similar to the 2014 E-series Vizios, with the Professional Settings menu (11-point white balance, RGB & CMY hue and saturation, and RGB gain and offset)?


I am currently on the 2.0.44 firmware version, and I have this set well-optimized for the room with a stellar picture. Ever since Rodneyber's post, I've been almost dreading the possible firmware update. It's like waiting for the other shoe to drop. A new and better Amazon interface would be nice, but I also have a Roku 3 in my system. I'd rather not mess up what I have, but I'd still like the set to remain Internet-connected.


If anyone has received the v1.34.23.0090 update and has good settings for that firmware that gave results similar to cNet's settings from David Katzmaier, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance for your help.
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