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clanmjc,

How far back do you set from your set? I noticed you mentioned having the same seating distance you had with your 42" lcd. That is certainly a step up in size. I'm just curious how far back your sitting.

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right at about 109" dead center to 128" as you move off angle. The center of the screen is exactly eye level when sitting on my couch +-1". That's why I mentioned it, to be fair, the size surely impacts my perceived level of detail especially with respect to dark material. I could sit 6' from this set and be very happy, in fact when it's just my wife and I we slide the couch (sectional on wood floor) up closer. Picture quality doesn't degrade until I'm like 4-5' from the screen on OTA HD @ 1080i. I didn't try that out with Blu Ray (distance that is, but I will and report back). If I had the budget I would have gone for an 80' with my same distance. I like the THX .84 of seating distance to diagnal, but I didn't want a projection for everyday use and we couldn't budget a larger screen at the time.

The washout, in my setup is minimal. Even at the worst viewing angle which is way off to the side is acceptable, although I'll never sit there!

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Looking forward to seeing your settings... I am still sooooo undecided on this TV.. I can't get over the washout and intermittent lip sync issues...

I haven't had a problem with washout as I sit front and center 8 feet away but I do look at the screen as I reenter the room after a trip to the frig and the washout is probably 50% less noticeable than the 47" Toshiba it replaced. At extreme angles the Toshiba was was just a pink fuzz and the Vizio is always discernible as a viewable picture. This is anecdotal evidence of course but it was a remarkable enough difference that I actually noticed it which is unusual for me as viewing angles don't even register on my pet peeve list.

I have watched more television in the last week as a percentage of time than I have in years; it is simply that much more enjoyable with this set. Re-watching classic movies is a joy, I watched From Russia with Love the other day and it was the perfect storm of transmission quality and TV reception, I have never experienced such color and clarity on a television before. I suppose a lot of what I am experiencing is simply new tech I am not used to, my current TVs are/were The 2007 47" Toshiba and a 2008 65" Olevia and while they both deliver adequate reception I was never moved to watch them simply because it actually altered the viewing experience to the extent the Vizio does. As one of our colleagues here on the board expressed it; "this is a bangin' TV". tongue.gif

I have experienced the lip sync issue but only on one channel, MTV, (I know, I know, but Snooki is one of the funniest human beings I've ever seen!). I have watched enough of the set to be able to chalk that up to transmission vagaries, MTV is a cheap channel, that delivers cheap programming as cheaply as possible, the picture quality is poor as well. It is easy to rectify this problem temporarily by simply hitting the 'last' button for a quick channel change and then back again. Ten seconds during a commercial and it's back to normal. There is no way in hell I would give up this TV because Snooki's pearls of wisdom get a nanosecond off occasionally.

I am no AV geek, I read of 'blooming', 'flashlighting', 'banding', etc and all I can report is a beautiful, uniform, clear, colorful picture from edge to edge every day, all day. What I am trying to express is don't cheat yourself out of an amazing experience because of nitpicking fears that will fade to insignificance once you and your family get a few movies under your belts. Amazon has a very generous return policy should you find the set not to your liking. They deliver the set to your house, take it to the room you want it, unbox it, plug it in to make sure it's working and undamaged and take the packaging away. If you need to return it contact them on line and they will come get it (replacing it or not) and you're done. I am in no way affiliated with Amazon other than being a satisfied customer.

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Looks like a really nice TV for the price. One thing I've read that has me concerned is the base it sits on. This TV will not be wall mounted. Is the base flimsy? This will be put on a stand in a stationary position. The stand will house the DirecTV box, blu ray player, and maybe a gaming system but unlikely. We'll also be using a soundbar as opposed to a surround sound system.
Also, anyone using this with a soundbar of any kind? This will be a rec room TV for the kids. We'll watch some blu ray on it but mostly regular TV and sports. Any soundbar recommendations? I have an Onkyo SR805 with SVS speakers hooked up to the good TV. I know I won't duplicate that sound system, but I'd at least like something nice.
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I find the stand to be very study, once tightened, there is no wiggle room. Much more solid than my other TV and it is made of metal (at least part of it is). It's ultra thin and has a very glossy piano black sheen paint. Looks nice in my book.

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There shouldnt be any blooming on this set as that is a side effect of local dimming backlighting. IMO, slight blooming is an acceptable tradoff for the superior blacks that local dimming provides.

There could be issues with backlight uniformity, which can be problematic on any set, but Edge Lit LED in particular. So watch out for that. Flashlighting along the edges and corners, especially.

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Thanks for the comments here guys! I just ordered my E601 through Amazon. Will be here this Wed. I'll try the settings posted here and keep you all posted on experience. Looks like a lotta bang for the buck with this set and can't wait to get it set up.

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Going to try to post some Pics, this is a test to see how it came out on here.



Unfortunately you cannot see the black level detail in these pictures, I was trying to have the shutter the same speed of the film so I wouldn't pick up the refresh lines, which you can kind of see in the clown close up, this is from the camera not the TV, it's pristine. That said I couldn't boost the iso to make the picture brighter on the camera without adding artificial "orange" tones to the image. I'll try to figure it out some more but my son just woke up I'm on daddy duty.

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Contrast 76
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Green Gain 115
Blue Gain 129
Red Offset 128
Green Offset 129
Blue Offset 131

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Thanks for the pics clanmjc.

Any gamers have their PS3, XBox or Wii hooked up to this thing yet? How is the Input Lag in Game Mode?

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Thanks for the pics clanmjc.
Any gamers have their PS3, XBox or Wii hooked up to this thing yet? How is the Input Lag in Game Mode?

I'll test this tonight after work on the ps3, and I'm ultra sensitive to input lag, which is why I couldn't really get siked about FPS for the consoles and stuck with the PC for those.

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Has anyone noticed a lag when changing channels (OTA) or changing inputs (TV > HDMI > TV)?

I ask because my current (4-year old) Vizio 32-inch has about a 1-2 second lag when changing channels.

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Has anyone noticed a lag when changing channels (OTA) or changing inputs (TV > HDMI > TV)?
I ask because my current (4-year old) Vizio 32-inch has about a 1-2 second lag when changing channels.
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That is mostly a function of the new digital signals. All TVs act like this. It's not like good ol' analog with near instantaneous picture acquisition.

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That is mostly a function of the new digital signals. All TVs act like this. It's not like good ol' analog with near instantaneous picture acquisition.

Thanks for the response. I was hoping it was a TV issue and would have been improved with the newer generation TVs.

So, I gather it's still an issue with this 60-inch Vizio.
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Thanks for the response. I was hoping it was a TV issue and would have been improved with the newer generation TVs.
So, I gather it's still an issue with this 60-inch Vizio.

It isn't an issue on my set. It takes longer to punch in the channel number than it does for the channel to change, I have to call this a non-issue. The processor on this set is very quick to complete tasks, very much more so than my '07 Toshiba or my '08 Olevia. Changing inputs is fast, loading apps is quick, now that I think about it, i don't believe there is a single complaint about processor speed in this thread.

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I hope this will resolve any extreme angle viewing questions anyone might have, As you can see, any further and I would be behind the TV.

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Not for me.. I ended up bringing it back this evening and picked up a Sharp LC-60C6400U and have not 1 regret. The image is stunning out of the box….

Thanks for the feedback in this thread.. Take care…
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Not for me.. I ended up bringing it back this evening and picked up a Sharp LC-60C6400U and have not 1 regret. The image is stunning out of the box….
Thanks for the feedback in this thread.. Take care…

Could you be a little more specific about what you found lacking in the Vizio E601-A3 compared to the Sharp? Was it just that the out of box settings were more pleasing to you?

Thanks! Always interested in peoples opinions.

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I just found this thread today...and am very glad to see that so many AVS members like the TV.
I am the calibrator that Home theater review used for this set.
I will see if I have the calibration report for the unit we tested and calibrated.

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Yes, I tried "dialing it in" over and over and just could not get a picture that had that little bit of "pop". The image was mostly dull and muddy and I could hardly see the picture from an angle. I have it on a tilt mount to watch from my living room while eating dinner in my kitchen and could not watch it because the picture was just too flat.

The Sharp settings are vibrant and clear and I can see it fine from almost any angle. It also has digital out to my receiver and sounds spectacular.

Out of the box my son and I were both like "now this is what I'm talking about" happy…
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I'm still moving into my new home so don't mind the clutter/mess. I'm waiting for my wall mount that will come in Thursday afternoon. My couch is about 10 feet from the set. Not in the pic is the VizioVHT215 2.1 soundbar/woofer set I picked up from Costco for $199. I followed the directions for the 2.1 hooked up to my U-verse box(HDMI). I'm no techy but I'm confused. I thought I could just use the 2.1 as I please for movies/sports/music and just use the TV volume for everyday watching but in order for me to use the 2.1, Uverse and the TV have to be on w/ the 2.1....Should I use an optial cable instead of the HDMI? Thanks for the help....here are some pics taken from an old droid X...btw...i used kev4bama's settings..





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I just found this thread today...and am very glad to see that so many AVS members like the TV.
I am the calibrator that Home theater review used for this set.
I will see if I have the calibration report for the unit we tested and calibrated.
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Glad to have you here RayJr. I'm most interested in your settings for this tv.
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I've had two of these sets now. The first one I returned to Amazon due to very excessive light bleed visible during normal TV viewing . The second one I bought from Sam's Club and the light bleed is well within what I think is acceptable levels. However both sets have had an issue I can't ignore. At the bottom left and right corners of the screen there is a feathered dark spot, mostly visible on solid and lighter colors. I saw the same issue in one persons pictures in this thread. Is this normal for this set?

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you like the rest of us purchased the least expensive 60" led edge lit display on the market....its not perfect, but for the price its hard to beat.....
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I just found this thread today...and am very glad to see that so many AVS members like the TV.
I am the calibrator that Home theater review used for this set.
I will see if I have the calibration report for the unit we tested and calibrated.
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that would be cool....thanks, i want to see how close or not close the numbers are to the cnet settings.....
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I've had my VIZIO E601i-A3 for a few days now (came from Sam's). It's wall mounted. My only (significant) gripe is its blotchy screen when viewing dark scenes (or dark noise on empty digital channels). I have 90 days to return the set and try another one. Not sure yet if this scree uniformity issue is going to bug me enough to exchange the set.

Yet, at this price and an edge lit panel one can't expect perfection, right? I'd rather have blotchiness that's visible occasionally than banding or other problems that're visible most of the time.
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I've had two of these sets now. The first one I returned to Amazon due to very excessive light bleed visible during normal TV viewing . The second one I bought from Sam's Club and the light bleed is well within what I think is acceptable levels. However both sets have had an issue I can't ignore. At the bottom left and right corners of the screen there is a feathered dark spot, mostly visible on solid and lighter colors. I saw the same issue in one persons pictures in this thread. Is this normal for this set?
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I bought my set from Costco and I have what you have pictured in the bottom left and right corners. I was thinking about an exchange but with my luck I will get another issue and it appears to be on all of them to some extent. It isn't noticable for the most part so I thing I'm going to live with it. Otherwise I'll have to spend about 300 bucks more and get a different brand with some other form of anomalies. None of these sets are perfect so, I think I'm keeping mine especially for the price. Overall, once dialed in it's a very good picture for the money.
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I've had two of these sets now. The first one I returned to Amazon due to very excessive light bleed visible during normal TV viewing . The second one I bought from Sam's Club and the light bleed is well within what I think is acceptable levels. However both sets have had an issue I can't ignore. At the bottom left and right corners of the screen there is a feathered dark spot, mostly visible on solid and lighter colors. I saw the same issue in one persons pictures in this thread. Is this normal for this set?
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I didn't see it on mine, not that I was looking for it but I would notice it when looking for other imperfections. I'll check. What source were you using for this? Commercial? Blu Ray? OTA HD, standard definition?

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I'm having uniformity issues too. I really only notice it on black screens, but it is splotchy across the entire screen. I'm considering exchanging it for another one just to see if they all have the same problem (and yeah, I'm afraid I may get one with a different problem). Other that that, it looks incredible.

So does anyone here use a harmony remote with this TV? With my harmony one, there doesn't appear to be direct input codes - instead it cycles through the inputs until it gets to the correct one. Not a big problem or anything since generally I use my receiver to switch between inputs, but it still seems a bit weird.
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I'm having uniformity issues too. I really only notice it on black screens, but it is splotchy across the entire screen. I'm considering exchanging it for another one just to see if they all have the same problem (and yeah, I'm afraid I may get one with a different problem). Other that that, it looks incredible.
So does anyone here use a harmony remote with this TV? With my harmony one, there doesn't appear to be direct input codes - instead it cycles through the inputs until it gets to the correct one. Not a big problem or anything since generally I use my receiver to switch between inputs, but it still seems a bit weird.

what is your backlight/brightness set at? My set is very uniform, my levels are at 53/50 respectively.

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I didn't see it on mine, not that I was looking for it but I would notice it when looking for other imperfections. I'll check. What source were you using for this? Commercial? Blu Ray? OTA HD, standard definition?

It happens on all inputs. I most commonly use HDMI for my Cox cable box and my Sony bluray player. However it also happens on the internal Netflix input. That would eliminate any outside sources.
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It happens on all inputs. I most commonly use HDMI for my Cox cable box and my Sony bluray player. However it also happens on the internal Netflix input. That would eliminate any outside sources.

It has nothing to do with the source. It's in the actual panel itself. You can almost feel it if you run your finger over the area. Probably when the set is manufactured, almost seems like the bottom of the bezel pushes up slighty causing the lower corners to divet slightly.
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