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I am looking to buy a new TV for my basement. It will be in a pretty low light room. I am looking for at least a 46" TV that will give me excellent picture quality and a high refresh rate. The primary use of this TV will be using it to play video games like Halo 4. I have considered getting a plasma TV but I recently found a really good deal at Best Buy that I think I may need to jump on.

I work at Best Buy and we have an open box end of life TV that my manager is willing to sell to me for a good deal. This is the TV:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN46D7000-46-Inch-1080p-Silver/dp/B004O6MN7E

The TV is in good condition and seems to have a really good picture. It is currently marked for $999.99 but I think I may be able to talk my manager down to as low as $700. Can you let me know if this is a good deal and if the TV is good? I like it because it has a high refresh rate and a good picture. I do not care at all about the 3D but I don't mind the feature being there.

If there are any other TVs you guys would recommend to me for a price lower than about $1050 let me know but I think this may be the TV to buy.
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If you are a gamer, please be advised that this set will likely have at least a 3 frame input lag.

But hard to argue with getting a bargain like that.

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If you are a gamer, please be advised that this set will likely have at least a 3 frame input lag.
But hard to argue with getting a bargain like that.

I'm not an expert on TV's but what about this TV makes it have a 3 frame input lag? 3 frames does not seem like much so I think I could deal with that. It would not be that noticeable would it? I am lot a professional gamer by any means but I do enjoy playing competitively.
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The Overdrive processing that helps alleviate motion blur on the S-PVA panel, which is a slower switching set. (Response time)

Essentially they buffer frames.

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OK so they slight delay is because the TV is processing the picture before it actually shows it I guess. Is this delay going to be big enough to notice and will it really effect my gameplay? Is there a way to turn this feature off?

Are there any other TVs you would recommend at this price range? Like I said I do not need a 3D TV. I just want a good sized TV with fast response and a good picture.
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I think it depends on the type of game. Visit the Input Lag Wars thread and ask them. Im only passingly familar with this issue. The gamers there can help you.

I think the Philips 5507 has been mentioned as tops for big set input lag, but be advised it uses a Red Chinese Chi Lin panel. Not top panels from LG, Samsung/Sony, and Sharp....so Picture Quality may suffer. However it should be passable, if gaming is a priority.

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$999 is not a good price for a 46 inch set that is almost 2 model years old and an open box that was not even Samsung's top of the line for that year.

For $999 you can get this Vizio: http://hometheaterreview.com/vizio-e601i-a3-60-inch-led-hdtv-reviewed/

which I believe has that same years Samsung panel. No way I would buy that old Samsung for that price.

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$999 is not a good price for a 46 inch set that is almost 2 model years old and an open box that was not even Samsung's top of the line for that year.
For $999 you can get this Vizio: http://hometheaterreview.com/vizio-e601i-a3-60-inch-led-hdtv-reviewed/
which I believe has that same years Samsung panel. No way I would buy that old Samsung for that price.

So is the VIZIO only better because it is bigger?

The Samsung is still a good TV right? What is the most you would pay for it? I am about to go to the store and make my manager a deal. What do you think is a good offer for it?
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I had a 55D8000, the model up from the D7000, and did not love it. There is huge panel variation within this TV, regarding backlight bleeding, banding, and clouding. If you get a good one they are great, but there are a lot of bad panels out there. I would be even more concerned that it is an open box and who knows why they returned it in the first place. Will you even have a Samsung warranty for the open box?

That said, if you can get it for $500 that might be reasonable, but even then you are rolling the dice. Just my humble opinion though.

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I had a 55D8000, the model up from the D7000, and did not love it. There is huge panel variation within this TV, regarding backlight bleeding, banding, and clouding. If you get a good one they are great, but there are a lot of bad panels out there. I would be even more concerned that it is an open box and who knows why they returned it in the first place. Will you even have a Samsung warranty for the open box?
That said, if you can get it for $500 that might be reasonable, but even then you are rolling the dice. Just my humble opinion though.

From what I read on Amazon the D7000s were rated better than the D8000s. The open item at our store is a shelf display not a return. The TV has been playing video every day for about 5 or 6 months now. At first I though this would be a turn off but LEDs have a very long life right? Like I said I work at this Best Buy and it seems to be in great condition. It still comes with the one year warranty through Samsung.
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Clearly you want the TV, its your money and you like it so go buy it!

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Oh, I see it is a 46" set now. Yeah, i wouldnt bother with it at $1000, display unit.....or even $700. (I thought it was a 55 incher.

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So whatd you do?

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Id research my purchase, and focus on my specific usage and placement. Seems like you should consider Input Lag as a gamer. Determine what size would be optimal for your needs and area. That type of thing.

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I meant what did the OP do after meeting with his manager tongue.gif

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I am still debating what I am going to do. After talking to a few other people in my house that will be using the TV we decided we are not going to get the 46" TV I mentioned earlier unless we can get it for like $500. I think we would rather have a 55" TV now.

I found this one on a deal for $880, is it a good TV for that price?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+55%22+Class+-+LED+-+1080p+-+120Hz+-+HDTV/4834412.p?id=1218540193959&skuId=4834412
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55EH6000FXZA
This is a brand new TV by the way.
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I am still debating what I am going to do. After talking to a few other people in my house that will be using the TV we decided we are not going to get the 46" TV I mentioned earlier unless we can get it for like $500. I think we would rather have a 55" TV now.
I found this one on a deal for $880, is it a good TV for that price?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+55%22+Class+-+LED+-+1080p+-+120Hz+-+HDTV/4834412.p?id=1218540193959&skuId=4834412
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55EH6000FXZA
This is a brand new TV by the way.

that's a good TV, but the UN55EH6030 is better (I have the 46" version of this TV and previously also had the 46" EH6000)
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