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post #61 of 66 Old 12-17-2015, 04:07 PM
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I use clear on my JS9000 for everything except games which I make sure have AMP off. Clear doesn't have the smoothing soap opera effect and helps eliminate some of the judder that can happen when I watch a movie from a source other than 24p.

For some reason the JS9000 doesn't always do a proper 3:2 pull down when watching a movie from a 60p source like a PC, game console, or other set top box. Even the built in apps like netflix and amazon instant video can have a bit of judder at times.,
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On my Samsung UN60D6420 the only AMP setting that works without producing weird stop/stutter/glitches is "Clear"....... OFF or any combination custom setting doesn't work without issues.

If OFF worked on my unit, it would be my setting of choice for sure.

That's interesting, I always thought that custom settings can reproduce clear, standard, smooth settings. So I used custom setting and it produced like you said weird stop/stutter/glitches mostly after scene changed. But I tried "Clear" setting and it really works without stutter, even custom setting at blur 0 and judder 0 produced stutter when tested (I'm using this test http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates-text)
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That's interesting, I always thought that custom settings can reproduce clear, standard, smooth settings. So I used custom setting and it produced like you said weird stop/stutter/glitches mostly after scene changed. But I tried "Clear" setting and it really works without stutter, even custom setting at blur 0 and judder 0 produced stutter when tested (I'm using this test http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates-text)
Yep, on my TV I have tried every combination of custom settings, for hours of testing, and that glitch/stutter was always there....... Even off too. I kept hoping for a firmware update to fix the issue, but nothing ever came and I'm sure there won't be any more support for a 6 year old unit.

That being said, the clear setting works great for all of my sources/material so I guess it doesn't really matter in the end.

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Yep, on my TV I have tried every combination of custom settings, for hours of testing, and that glitch/stutter was always there....... Even off too. I kept hoping for a firmware update to fix the issue, but nothing ever came and I'm sure there won't be any more support for a 6 year old unit.

That being said, the clear setting works great for all of my sources/material so I guess it doesn't really matter in the end.
AutoMotion+ from this year's TV behaves the same. Maybe someday we will have source with native high framerate and this interpolation crap will be thing of the past
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Hi guys !

I registered just to share my experience...

I solved the AMP issue on my TV... It's just that I don't really know how I did it.

I own a UE55F6100 I use mainly with a HTPC through a 5.1 AV receiver, all HDMI. I use MPC-HC + madVR + reclock and TV set in 24 Hz.

I had the same random stuttering issue with AMP, no matter the settings. "Clear" was the best working setting but not really ideal as it didn't really remove juddering.

After litteraly hours of meddling with the settings I updated the TV with the latest firmware and decided (mainly for fun) to have a look a the hidden Samsung factory menu. I meddled with these mostly obscure and undocumented settings a little bit but every time I changed an option I put it back the way it originally was, as I had absolutely no clue of what I was doing.

After a while I got bored and switched of the TV. When I turned it back on, all my settings (brightness, color, etc.) had been reset. At first I was pissed because I had to reconfigure my TV from scratch.

But then I tried to activate AMP with custom settings 4/4 and guess what ? IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM.

I've been experiencing a working AMP with smooth playback on custom settings and I have no idea how I did it...
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I have the UE55JU7005, and when I enable AMP - the video runs absolutely ****ing smooth. For almost an entire second. Then, near the end of the second, it looks like a few frames have been mixed up, and gets sent out of order. Literally. This 'stutter' happens once every second. It is most visible when text is moving over the screen, but also really noticeable in steadily moving panoramic video.

Let's hypothetically say the movie has 25 frames in a second, and AMP makes it 100. If I turn off AMP, I get a steady 'stutter' of 25 frames per second. If I turn it on, I get a steady 90 frames per 0.9 seconds, and the last 0.1 second has 10 frames, but out of order.
Over the course of one entire second, it feels like this is the order of the frames:
Frame #0 to frame #90 chronologically, then like this:
#91
#93
#92
#95
#94
#97
#96
#99
#98.

I absolutely LOVE this motion feature when it works. Everything is clear and smooth, but then a tiny stutter happens. Then it's back to smooth. Then stutter. Every damn second.

The reason I feel the frames are out of order is because if this stutter starts happening as the video changes camera, it is clearly visible that a frame from the next camera angle appears before the last frame of the previous camera angle appears. Let's say the camera goes from a forest, then changes to a boat. If the stutter happens, I see it like this:
#91 forest
#93 forest
#92 forest
#95 boat
#94 forest
#97 boat
#96 boat
...

Frame 0-90 are ****ing great.
Frame 91 - 99 are ****ing terrible.

How can I fix this?
If you want to test this out, enable custom AMP, and turn the "Blur reduction" to 0 and the "Judder reduction" to 10, "LED Clear Motion" to off - and then watch the credits of any movie.
The text in the credits will be absolutely stunningly smooth for the first 0.9 second, and then at the end of the second, the text will start jumping up and down for a few frames. Then it will go back to normal.

How can we fix this??

Contrary to what was posted in the original post, this is not just "prediction". It could've never predicted that a boat would enter the frame.
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