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Look what I found behind this sticker.

"2013 golf ufv n tv board"

Really wish I could get this black casing off to see what's behind it but it doesn't seem to come off.
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Here's another chip of some sort. It says ALTERA cyclone 4. Any guess what that one is?

My biggest question is which board that is that has the black casing on the front. Player, from your blown up diagrams can we figure out what board that is and possible what, if any, chips are on it?
It is a PCB board there are 2 parts 11 and 11A

11 is PCB main board

BN94-07389K
PCB ASSY

$222.22
More on the way, Usually ships within 3-5 business days Specification
UH8T
ASSY PCB MAIN

11a is also PCB main board

Part #: BN94-07675W
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ASSY PCB MAIN

Specification:
UH8U

So one or other is in set not both...No I think both are in there my mistake

Like I said no golf chip ...That is some serious dedication Ray thanks for opening your panel.

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Look what I found behind this sticker.

"2013 golf ufv n tv board"

Really wish I could get this black casing off to see what's behind it but it doesn't seem to come off.

Did ya see this post?
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Did ya see this post?
yes I see the post under sticker is part number this is not the golf chip though .
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yes I see the post under sticker is part number this is not the golf chip though .

There is a big chip behind the black casing. Trying to see what it is.
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yes I see the post under sticker is part number this is not the golf chip though .

Uh oh. Look what I found behind the black casing.

Appears to be a golf chip and an arm chip.
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Uh oh. Look what I found behind the black casing.

Appears to be a golf chip and an arm chip.
let me see what 1308 does. The 1301 is the same chip in OCB this does the serialization so crunches data .

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let me see what 1308 does
by the way, i opened up my OCB as well, the golf and arm chip was inside, but it was on the inner side of the board, so i had to lift the board to see the chips, but could only lift part of it. im not sure if the number (1308) matches whats on the tv, or if its the same as last years box that we have pictures of (1303).



so we know there is a golf and arm chip inside the HU9000. but the question now, is how many of these chips are inside non OCB tvs such as the 8700/8550/7250? do they have 2 chips like the hu9000? and if the other tvs dont have 2 and they only have 1, what happens when the new N chip is hooked up to it via OCB ugprade, does the N chip simply over ride the 1 golf/novatech chip on the inside?? i would assume so.


I also wonder if my golf board inside my HU9000 could be changed out with a board from the JS9000?

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let me see what 1308 does


by the way, i see the ARM 1301 is the same inside my tv as it is inside the OCB. but the GOLF chips have different numbers. maybe tomorrow ill re-open my OCB to see if the golf chip in there is 1308 or 1303.

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spd 1308 is a frame rate converter

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spd 1308 is a frame rate converter

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http://www.chipworks.com/TOC/Samsung...05-905_TOC.pdf

Ok, I'm no video chip expert at all, what's the difference between golf 1303 and golf 1308? What is a frame rate converter you have any idea?
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Ok, I'm no video chip expert at all, what's the difference between golf 1303 and golf 1308? What is a frame rate converter you have any idea?
1303 does all the video scaling ..1308 does frame frequency ensuring that motion is transferred properly and smoothed out like amp. This chip is only in 9000 and explains why it has a higher motion rating than all other models that year. 9000 has a special chip for motion and it's 1308 good find ray. Frame rate converter is dealing with lots of data that is why 9000 has another 1301 serdes chip to handle the data from 1308.


FRC (Frame Rate Conversion) algorithms are used in compression, video format conversion, quality enhancement, stereo vision, etc. The most popular application is format conversion. This is the case when FRC is used in order to convert the frame rate of video stream. It is needed for example in order to playback 50Hz video sequence using TV set with 100Hz frame rate. FRC makes the motion of objects smoother and therefore more pleasant for eyes. It allows to slow down the playback speed thus making the objects' movements more evident.

http://compression.ru/video/frame_ra...x_en_frcn.html
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1303 does all the video scaling ..1308 does frame frequency ensuring that motion is transferred properly and smoothed out like amp. This chip is only in 9000 and explains why it has a higher motion rating than all other models that year. 9000 has a special chip for motion and it's 1308 good find ray. Frame rate converter is dealing with lots of data that is why 9000 has another 1301 serdes chip to handle the data from 1308.


FRC (Frame Rate Conversion) algorithms are used in compression, video format conversion, quality enhancement, stereo vision, etc. The most popular application is format conversion. This is the case when FRC is used in order to convert the frame rate of video stream. It is needed for example in order to playback 50Hz video sequence using TV set with 100Hz frame rate. FRC makes the motion of objects smoother and therefore more pleasant for eyes. It allows to slow down the playback speed thus making the objects' movements more evident.

http://compression.ru/video/frame_ra...x_en_frcn.html

yea, good thing i broke apart the black casing to see what was under it lol i only had to break 2 black screw things, no biggy. so the 1303 is a scaler/decoder, and the 1308 is for motion. by "scaler" does this mean "upscale"? or are they different? like ive said quite a few times, i seen a big difference in motion between the 8550 i had and the hu9000 i have now. are we sure this 1308 chip isnt in the other tvs??

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yea, good thing i broke apart the black casing to see what was under it lol i only had to break 2 black screw things, no biggy. so the 1303 is a scaler/decoder, and the 1308 is for motion. by "scaler" does this mean "upscale"? or are they different? like ive said quite a few times, i seen a big difference in motion between the 8550 i had and the hu9000 i have now. are we sure this 1308 chip isnt in the other tvs??
yes the scaler also upscales and downscales if needed . yes 1308 is not in 8700 0r 8550
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Here is what was posted in different thread that put in to rest!! . . . . .
Now here is a exploded view of 9000 note that the 9000 does not have the video processing chips in panel the parts are just not listed http://www.searspartsdirect.com/sams...323/00001.html
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Uh oh. Look what I found behind the black casing.

Appears to be a golf chip and an arm chip.




ray0414 - That appears to be thermal paste on top of those processors to help keep them cool while they are enhancing your TV's image. Be sure you left that in place when re-assembling your set.

I believe it's time to Overthrow VerticalScope..
and Bring Back Huddler!


It's a shame that in the end TCU's playoff chances all came down to this . . .

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ray0414 - That appears to be thermal paste on top of those processors to help keep them cool while they are enhancing your TV's image. Be sure you left that in place when re-assembling your set.
dude do you read most of the posts b4 posting? Anyways this chip is handling the motion of the image video processing is done first by the DTV scaler which is 1303 golf chip . first video image goes to 1303 which scales and processes image then it goes to 1301 serdes for serialization then it goes to main board where 1308 handles the motion/frame rate then sends it 1301 for serialization then it goes to TCon board . 1303 golf still handles scaling of incoming images and still is marked DNIE just like the golf chip doing the frame rate converting (1308). We see that 9000 has extra golf chip that is not present in other model and Chipworks states that it is a Frame rate controller(1308) . Now if you understand CPU's you can see that this is all part of the system on chip (soc)that separates 9000 from other models EXtra chip for Motion handling. I repeat this chip is not present in other models!!!! Chip works is the industry standard for extensive chip layouts , you have to pay $2500 even $6000 to get layouts they are 100% accurate. They state chip is Frame rate Converter http://www.chipworks.com/TOC/Samsung...05-905_TOC.pdf

Now from ray opening his panel he pointed where the OCB goes in which is to the main board which is part of the SYSTEM ON SOC.Now the OCB can add new video processor ,codecs, cpu's and send it to the main board and it becomes part of the SOC like a IGP. We have rep on camera stating OCB will get new video processors

seriously any chip that has DNIE is part of the processing of the image the 1303 does the scaling of all images so it does 4k scaling,4 upscaling 2k scaling and will even downscale if needed then is sent to 1301 for serialization and passed to main board for 1308 to handle the motion there are decoders on the way to the set and other coprocessors but make no mistake any chip marked DNIE is part of the proprietary video processing . Now just using basic logic if the Chip in OCB that is marked DNIE is swapped out for a new chip would it not be implementing a new algorithm

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This post is for users wanting to know if 2015 OCB has video processor inside and is for the Nay sayers .

Samsung continued its excellent initiative to offer a remote housing that incorporates connectivity, HDMI chipset, but also the CPU, GPU, multimedia chipset and other components. This allows to change the TV every year and with the premises of 4K, knowing that many compatibilities are not yet present, it is practically essential for the sustainability of the TV.
The One Connect 2015 already offers a great support UHD with HEVC compatibility for tuners and multimedia management, and 2160p compatibility 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60 im / s, compatibility YCbCr 4: 4: 4 and 10 bits per color (especially interesting with 10 bit panel) and HDR technology. It only lacks the ability to display the Rec.2020, but unfortunately it is still far enough! We also see it later in the test
http://www.hdfever.fr/wp-content/upl...28-597x228.jpg
http://www.hdfever.fr/wp-content/upl...30-150x100.jpg
http://www.hdfever.fr/wp-content/upl...31-150x100.jpg
http://www.hdfever.fr/wp-content/upl...32-150x100.jpg
http://www.hdfever.fr/wp-content/upl...02-597x398.jpg

This One Connect includes 4 HDMI 2.0 inputs. By examining the electronics of One Connect box, we can see an HDMI chipset Silicon Image Sil9777. This is the latest and most powerful in its class with support for HDCP 2.2, MHL 3.0, and support for all HDMI 2.0 specification (4K / 60, YCbCr 4: 4: 4 and encoding 10 bits per color). It will be updated soon HDMI 2.0a to manage the HDR. There is also an Ethernet port, the port owner "One Connect" to connect to the TV so output optics, a connector for the service, and finally through the Antenna and Satellite TNT with double tuner Freeview-HD, Cable and Satellite. This allows to record one channel while watching another program, or watch two channels simultaneously in PIP or PAP, or from your tablet or smartphone iOS and Android.

translate to english when using link http://www.hdfever.fr/2015/04/19/tes...tTabs_ul_60683

This should put issue to rest OCB does have the video processor inside ...
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This post is for users wanting to know if 2015 OCB has video processor inside and is for the Nay sayers .

Samsung continued its excellent initiative to offer a remote housing that incorporates connectivity, HDMI chipset, but also the CPU, GPU, multimedia chipset and other components. This allows to change the TV every year and with the premises of 4K, knowing that many compatibilities are not yet present, it is practically essential for the sustainability of the TV.
The One Connect 2015 already offers a great support UHD with HEVC compatibility for tuners and multimedia management, and 2160p compatibility 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60 im / s, compatibility YCbCr 4: 4: 4 and 10 bits per color (especially interesting with 10 bit panel) and HDR technology. It only lacks the ability to display the Rec.2020, but unfortunately it is still far enough! We also see it later in the test
http://www.hdfever.fr/wp-content/upl...28-597x228.jpg
http://www.hdfever.fr/wp-content/upl...30-150x100.jpg
http://www.hdfever.fr/wp-content/upl...31-150x100.jpg
http://www.hdfever.fr/wp-content/upl...32-150x100.jpg
http://www.hdfever.fr/wp-content/upl...02-597x398.jpg

This One Connect includes 4 HDMI 2.0 inputs. By examining the electronics of One Connect box, we can see an HDMI chipset Silicon Image Sil9777. This is the latest and most powerful in its class with support for HDCP 2.2, MHL 3.0, and support for all HDMI 2.0 specification (4K / 60, YCbCr 4: 4: 4 and encoding 10 bits per color). It will be updated soon HDMI 2.0a to manage the HDR. There is also an Ethernet port, the port owner "One Connect" to connect to the TV so output optics, a connector for the service, and finally through the Antenna and Satellite TNT with double tuner Freeview-HD, Cable and Satellite. This allows to record one channel while watching another program, or watch two channels simultaneously in PIP or PAP, or from your tablet or smartphone iOS and Android.

translate to english when using link http://www.hdfever.fr/2015/04/19/tes...tTabs_ul_60683

This should put issue to rest OCB does have the video processor inside ...

Wish i could read what the out early chip says to see if it says golf or something else.

I do find it interesting that they say the silicon chip completely controls hdr and will be turned on with a firmware update.
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well we know its not golf its the h chip
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funny the Nay sayers got nothing to say now must be too full eating all that crow lol
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