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Awesome preliminary review and consistent with what I saw in store. Looks like this might be the Sub-$5k TV to beat in 2013.

You mean "the sub-$5K TV to beat" assuming you've ruled out buying a plasma, right?

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working.
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You mean "the sub-$5K TV to beat" assuming you've ruled out buying a plasma, right?

Should have said LCD. I'm guessing the ZT60 will beat all. I myself have a 65" VT50, but am looking for something for the downstairs which has much more light.
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Anyone that actually has the UN55F8000 (which is essentially the only F8000 available right now) - I would love to see some pictures of the following:

1) Close-ups of the bezel (always misleading from marketing pictures)
2) Close-ups of the stand (is it in fact split in the middle?)
3) Any picture quality photos
4) Even though this is just the 55", like to see a screen shot of a gray screen to see if there is any banding on the 55"

Thanks in advance!
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I'm confused. I don't see the un55F8000 on Samsung's site. It has the UN55ES8000F, but I'm guessing that's different?

Anyone know if there is a wall mount for the F8000?
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I'm confused. I don't see the un55F8000 on Samsung's site. It has the UN55ES8000F, but I'm guessing that's different?

Anyone know if there is a wall mount for the F8000?

The ES8000 is the 2012 flagship model at that size, and the set that I currently own.

I posted this in the ES8000 thread, but I'll post here hoping for some help as well. Because my 55ES8000 gave me troubles, Samsung is offering to exchange it for a 55F7500, but not the 55F8000. So I'm wondering what the differences are between the 7500 and 8000. I've read that the 8000 has "thousands" of local dimming zones. How many does the 7500 have?

Anybody have a full spec list for the 8000 and/or 7500? I need to see if I'm giving up anything going from the ES8000 to the F7500 that I would not be giving up if I went from the ES8000 to the F8000.

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The ES8000 is the 2012 flagship model at that size, and the set that I currently own.

I posted this in the ES8000 thread, but I'll post here hoping for some help as well. Because my 55ES8000 gave me troubles, Samsung is offering to exchange it for a 55F7500, but not the 55F8000. So I'm wondering what the differences are between the 7500 and 8000. I've read that the 8000 has "thousands" of local dimming zones. How many does the 7500 have?

Anybody have a full spec list for the 8000 and/or 7500? I need to see if I'm giving up anything going from the ES8000 to the F7500 that I would not be giving up if I went from the ES8000 to the F8000.

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The ES8000 is the 2012 flagship model at that size, and the set that I currently own.

I posted this in the ES8000 thread, but I'll post here hoping for some help as well. Because my 55ES8000 gave me troubles, Samsung is offering to exchange it for a 55F7500, but not the 55F8000. So I'm wondering what the differences are between the 7500 and 8000. I've read that the 8000 has "thousands" of local dimming zones. How many does the 7500 have?

Anybody have a full spec list for the 8000 and/or 7500? I need to see if I'm giving up anything going from the ES8000 to the F7500 that I would not be giving up if I went from the ES8000 to the F8000.

Thanks,

Sounds interested...I held out for an Samsung Exchange for a higher model.

I had a D6900, was offered an ES6600 and held out for the ES7100.
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Thanks, so it looks like the microdimming is one of the key feature differentiations between the 7500 and 8000 models, just like in 2012. I think I may end up asking for the full refund and either spending a few hundred to step up to the F8000 or even more for the HX950.
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Sounds interested...I held out for an Samsung Exchange for a higher model.

I had a D6900, was offered an ES6600 and held out for the ES7100.

When you say you "held out", what did you do exactly? Negotiate with them or wait a few weeks/months until they made a better offer?
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Awesome preliminary review and consistent with what I saw in store. Looks like this might be the Sub-$5k TV to beat in 2013.
I can not see an edge lit TV ever being the unit to beat. The local dimming XBR's are still being made..............as noted above you would also need to look at the new state of the art plasma's coming out.
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I can not see an edge lit TV ever being the unit to beat. The local dimming XBR's are still being made..............as noted above you would also need to look at the new state of the art plasma's coming out.

I'll look at the state of the art plasmas when they start making large screens. Until then, the 75" F8000 WILL be the set to beat. cool.gif

Or bigger, but that's all I can fit this time around.... biggrin.gif

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I can not see an edge lit TV ever being the unit to beat. The local dimming XBR's are still being made..............as noted above you would also need to look at the new state of the art plasma's coming out.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the replacement for the HX950 will be. I've heard rumors that it may be an OLED, but I highly doubt it. With the way the market is going, I think Sony's 2013 XBR will be edge lit. The F8000 has proven that edge lit can be good.

Also, I know it's been said before but if anyone is getting this TV can you please take lots of pictures. I'm also really interested to see if people will have to return their TV's 2 or more times before they get one without clouding or flash lighting.
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I found this review in Spanish. I used Google translate.

http://www.tuexperto.com/2013/03/13/samsung-f8000-led-smart-tv-analisis-a-fondo/

Spring is coming and it is time to renew. Manufacturers of consumer electronics products are prepared for the new season. This time Samsung has found a worthy successor to the successful family of TVs ES8000. Family is Samsung F8000 LED Smart TV, smart connected TVs are Wi-Fi integrated. These screens can also display Full HD 3D images with the active system. Are upgradeable and can be controlled by voice and movements.

They are available in several diagonal screen, so they can fit any size of room, from 40 to 75 inches. They are the UE40F8000 Samsung, Samsung UE46F8000 the UE55F8000 Samsung, the Samsung UE65F8000, and Samsung UE75F8000.

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Design

You have to make a complete circuit around one of these TVs Samsung F8000 series to realize the beauty of its design, especially the metal bracket arched. The rest is finished in a sober black, which gives all the attention to the images when they are on. The house engineers continue to be almost impossible to lose weight when these displays. This time, they have managed to measure only 3.49 inches deep. A very narrow frame bordering the screen ultrathin. It is a bit thicker at the bottom rear to accommodate the control electronics and the patch panel. Supports mounting role in different kinds of media, to hang like a picture, after removal of the base.

At the top is the HD webcam. It's a retractable camera is hidden when not in use, so that nothing alters the straight lines of the design. Simply apply light pressure to the camera emerges. That way, people can find out right away from home when the camera is active.

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Image

The Samsung F8000 are LED backlit LCD screens located at the edges. Local control of lighting is quite accurate (micro dimming), because it works with very small areas, so that the edges are well defined, without annoying halos that often appear in very bright areas. The panel offers a resolution of 1,920 by 1,080 pixels (Full HD) and operates at a refresh rate of 240 Hz engineers have also included various technologies to maintain crisp, fluid images even during fast-moving scenes too.

These TVs can also display stereoscopic three-dimensional (3D TV). They come equipped with two active 3D glasses, the Samsung SSG-5100. Have the required video converter 2D to 3D. For these new models, the manufacturer has improved the algorithm that minimizes the effects of crosstalk (crosstalk), based brighten 3D movies. Furthermore, the engine is a 3D image HyperReal Engine combined with a powerful quad-core processor.

By having a dual tuner, allow you to enjoy functions such as picture-in-Picture (PIP) or record a TV program while you are watching another, in the latter case, whenever you connect a memory key or portable hard drive USB. Actually, you can tune into television broadcasts on DTT, Freeview HD, analogue and satellite (DVB-S2). They are also compatible with HbbTV hybrid television.

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Sound and Smart TV

The Samsung F8000 incorporate full-range speakers that point down, with a total power output of 40 watts. The user can customize the sound of the TV. Anyway, offer various surround audio formats such as Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby Pulse, DTS and DTS Premium Sound Studio Audio 5.1. The automatic leveling ensures that the volume is always consistent, even when the user changes channels.

They're smart TVs connected Smart Hub interface 2013, the most recent of the brand. The power of quad-core processor is noticeable when surfing the web and when managing applications. Provides access to the services and content available online in Samsung Smart TV platform, which includes the ability to play music and movies in streaming. A special algorithm is responsible for improving the quality of video and Internet texts.

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Connectivity

The rear panel of connections covered by a lid. These TVs Samsung F8000 series has a fairly complete connectivity, appropriate for high-end models. This includes four HDMI inputs, a Scart, a combined ticket for component video or A / V, an optical digital audio output and a headphone output. Certainly no shortage of USB ports for version 2.0, each has three USB movies playable. They can access the Internet and other home network both wirelessly (Wi-Fi) and Ethernet, and are prepared to pay DTT, through a common interface slot (CI).

The remote control is one of the most advanced. It has a metallic finish and incorporates a touch pad (touch panel) and a microphone. Anyway, those who wish may add a wireless keyboard that is sold separately, a useful accessory especially for those who will navigate the web much with the TV and will often publish content on social networks .

The possibilities of interacting with these TVs are many. The user can operate various functions by voice and movements, thanks to the integrated webcam and microphone, both the camera and the remote control. The interface of the South Korean manufacturer Smart Interaction complete voice control movements and face recognition. Thus, the TV can know what inhabitant of the house is sitting in front of the screen to offer their favorite content, for example. Finally, are compatible with Smart Evolution, ie are updatable.

Ultimately, the Samsung F8000 Smart LED TV are suitable for consumers looking for the most cutting-edge innovations in smart connected TVs at a reasonable price.
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I'm looking forward to seeing what the replacement for the HX950 will be. I've heard rumors that it may be an OLED, but I highly doubt it. With the way the market is going, I think Sony's 2013 XBR will be edge lit. The F8000 has proven that edge lit can be good.

I doubt very much they're going to make another full-array local-dimmer in place of the 950, at least for this year. They've got two high-end edge-lits this year. The XBR-X900A will indeed be 4K and is coming in 55" and 65", and the W900A is 1080p. Both are edge-lit with local dimming and both are using quantum dot. Ill be excited to at least check them out, as Sony (so far) seems to be the best at perfecting edge-lit local dimming technology. The F8000 looks like it's in good shape this year so we'll see how the W/X900 stack up.

I could be wrong, though -- Sony has been known to do mid-year XBR intros, so there could be a new 950. If there isn't, they might skip a year depending on how the FP market looks at the time. If I'm not mistaken, the XBR8 was intro'd in 2008, then the 2009 XBR9 was CCFL, followed shortly by the edge-lit XBR10....Sony didn't make another full-array TV until two years after the XBR8 with the HX909.

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I'm looking forward to seeing what the replacement for the HX950 will be. I've heard rumors that it may be an OLED, but I highly doubt it. With the way the market is going, I think Sony's 2013 XBR will be edge lit. The F8000 has proven that edge lit can be good.

Also, I know it's been said before but if anyone is getting this TV can you please take lots of pictures. I'm also really interested to see if people will have to return their TV's 2 or more times before they get one without clouding or flash lighting.

I had to return more Samsung tvs because of dead pixels than anything else. Out of seven returns, 4 of 7 had dead pixels out of the box. Only two of the seven had what I would consider unacceptable flashlighting/clouding (both had the "V").... So I wouldn't be too concerned over flashlighting/clouding on the F8000s as it certainly wasn't the most rampant problem with the ES8000s.
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Should have said LCD. I'm guessing the ZT60 will beat all. I myself have a 65" VT50, but am looking for something for the downstairs which has much more light.

I'm not so sure. First I'd bet the F8500 beats the ZT on the basis of comparable black levels and superior luminance values. We shall see.

After seeing my second F8000, I might pick that over the current crop of Panasonic plasmas. Admittedly I'd have to see them side by side, but what I saw was very impressive.
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I can not see an edge lit TV ever being the unit to beat. The local dimming XBR's are still being made..............as noted above you would also need to look at the new state of the art plasma's coming out.

Never say never. You may be right, but I'm beginning to throw out the some of the old theories...at least I'm going to remain objective. One thing is for sure, at least some of the 2013 displays do indeed seem much improved.
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I'm not so sure. First I'd bet the F8500 beats the ZT on the basis of comparable black levels and superior luminance values. We shall see.

After seeing my second F8000, I might pick that over the current crop of Panasonic plasmas. Admittedly I'd have to see them side by side, but what I saw was very impressive.

And what is that based on? Last year's E8000 set was comparable the the ST50 and had many issues with buzzing. There are even videos of the F8500 buzzing. With the ZT50 being built from the ground up by a company that has "owned" the plasma market for the last few years, I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and let Samsung prove me wrong...

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Best Buy experts:

Can someone confirm how the RewardsZone Silver works with the 60-day return window?

Specifically, if you haven't made a BestBuy purchase this calendar year yet, and then go spend $2500+ purchasing the new Samsung F8000 does that automatically propel you into the RewardsZone Silver status so you have 60-days to return that TV, or do you need to be in Silver status before you purchase the TV?

Just wondering as I am considering purchasing the F8000 from BestBuy.

Thanks.

(and how about those pictures?? someone has to have a camera and the F8000 - or maybe the picture is so good that no one has been able to pick up their camera yet since they are glued to the TV...)
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What is "V" flashlighting?

Since nobody else responded, the "V" was an area of clouding on the ES series (7500 and 8000 for sure, and maybe others) near the bottom center of the screen. It consisted of 2 separate areas of clouding that formed almost a perfect "V". My ES7500 had it bad. It was noticeable during much of the content I watched. I'm remaining hopeful that this will not be an issue this year. It sounds from early reviews that they finally might have taken care of the flashlighting/clouding issues. I'm skeptical, due to my own personal experience with several Samsungs, but I remain hopeful.
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And what is that based on? Last year's E8000 set was comparable the the ST50 and had many issues with buzzing. There are even videos of the F8500 buzzing. With the ZT50 being built from the ground up by a company that has "owned" the plasma market for the last few years, I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and let Samsung prove me wrong...

Did I mention anything about buzzing? I only mentioned PQ. All I've read seems to indicate a breakthrough in the plasma design as offered by Samsung. I for one truly hope this is the case, as after having owned a Sharp Elite, I'd have trouble going back to the limitations imposed by plasmas ABL. I'm sure the ZT will be a great display, but I've seen nothing that indicates anything significantly different about the design.

I'm rooting for Samsung and their new tech, but from some of the threads around AVS, it seems some are rooting against them. I frankly could care less who produces the best display, as long as the science advances and display quality shows significant advances.
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I for one am very glad to hear the F series is "less punchy" with its image. The ES7500 I owned last year had overly saturated color, and a strong red push, which made color look quite unnatural at times. I like my image to look more natural than "punchy", so this is good news for me. There are a ton of settings where you can add "punch" to it (dynamic contrast, saturation, black tone, etc.) but it's nice to h ear that by default the image is more natural this year.
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I'm looking forward to seeing what the replacement for the HX950 will be. I've heard rumors that it may be an OLED, but I highly doubt it. .

Sony is years from producing an OLED, so you can conclude those rumors are completely, 100% wrong.
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Should have said LCD. I'm guessing the ZT60 will beat all. I myself have a 65" VT50, but am looking for something for the downstairs which has much more light.

Fair enough, although people are dreaming the F8500 plasma might do that (based on seeing it at CES). Certainly, we know the LCDs will be plenty bright and from the early reports, improved.
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I'm confused. I don't see the un55F8000 on Samsung's site. It has the UN55ES8000F, but I'm guessing that's different?

Anyone know if there is a wall mount for the F8000?

There will be standard wall mounts as always.
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Did I mention anything about buzzing? I only mentioned PQ. All I've read seems to indicate a breakthrough in the plasma design as offered by Samsung. I for one truly hope this is the case, as after having owned a Sharp Elite, I'd have trouble going back to the limitations imposed by plasmas ABL. I'm sure the ZT will be a great display, but I've seen nothing that indicates anything significantly different about the design.

I'm rooting for Samsung and their new tech, but from some of the threads around AVS, it seems some are rooting against them. I frankly could care less who produces the best display, as long as the science advances and display quality shows significant advances.

Amen.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working.
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Thanks. Re, the wall mount, I guess I should ask whether I'll be able to use an "old fashioned" wall mount that's already on the wall. Or are these tvs completely different?
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When you say you "held out", what did you do exactly? Negotiate with them or wait a few weeks/months until they made a better offer?

I rejected the first offer- infact I was told by an Executive Customer Rep. I could ask for another model or continue to reject any/all offers until happy.

Two excellent links on Samsung exchanges and company policy:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399319/official-samsung-unxxes8000-owners-thread/330#post_21817605

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I'm rooting for Samsung and their new tech, but from some of the threads around AVS, it seems some are rooting against them. I frankly could care less who produces the best display, as long as the science advances and display quality shows significant advances.

+1, Despite all the issues I had with Samsung, the A850 and (to a lesser degree) ES7100 make me believe Samsung is still the best HDTV maker.

I hope the F8000 LED and F8500 PDP become the new industry standards.
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Thanks. Re, the wall mount, I guess I should ask whether I'll be able to use an "old fashioned" wall mount that's already on the wall. Or are these tvs completely different?

I have an older Sanus Wall Mount from '07 that I've used on many different sets over the last 12 mos.,(returns-long story), no issues at all. The ES8000 and HX950 fit perfectly fine with my mount. It does make the tv extend out from the wall a little more than the newer mounts though. From pics I've seen of the F8000 it appears it has the same hole pattern of other sets so I don't think you should have a problem.
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So, I'm a newbie in this realm (which is obvious by my B.S. posts and lack of any technical jargon to make myself seem knowledgable about anything at all). In the last review from Robert Zohn (who seems to be the Dali Lama of this whole place) he recommends having the TV professionally calibrated. I would agree on principle that it sounds like a good idea. But how much does something like that usually cost? And if I choose to go the DIY route, am I able to do so and get the right results? I mean, I have an eye for color and contrast and detail (in the advertising/design world) but not for this TV stuff. Most of the things that bug 90% of the people here are not really an issue for me. I don't notice clouding or flashlighting during movies on my Sony LED (55HX800) because I'm paying attention to the bright spots on the TV (the actual picture I'm watching). I guess I'm a consumer "sheep" because I think my TV looks pretty good. It gets chunky at times, but mostly during very dark scenes or rapid movement. I can probably adjust that away. Or, professionally calibrate that away. rolleyes.gif

I tried to calibrate my TV with the settings I found online. All started with "movie" mode, and then tried to make everything soft and silky. But normal cable TV (80% of my family's viewing) is not that. It looked stupid. It softened everything to the point of absurdity. I went back to square 1 and I'm now a few clicks away from factory settings. Does that make me an idiot?

I guess my point is, can I calibrate the F8000 myself with help from the Forum? Or do I need to pay some dude $300 to come to my house and bump my blues, tone down my reds, kill the contrast, not crush my blacks, and turn my bright, poppy TV into a flatscreen of mush?

See...B.S. post again!frown.gif
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So, I'm a newbie in this realm (which is obvious by my B.S. posts and lack of any technical jargon to make myself seem knowledgable about anything at all). In the last review from Robert Zohn (who seems to be the Dali Lama of this whole place) he recommends having the TV professionally calibrated. I would agree on principle that it sounds like a good idea. But how much does something like that usually cost? And if I choose to go the DIY route, am I able to do so and get the right results? I mean, I have an eye for color and contrast and detail (in the advertising/design world) but not for this TV stuff. Most of the things that bug 90% of the people here are not really an issue for me. I don't notice clouding or flashlighting during movies on my Sony LED (55HX800) because I'm paying attention to the bright spots on the TV (the actual picture I'm watching). I guess I'm a consumer "sheep" because I think my TV looks pretty good. It gets chunky at times, but mostly during very dark scenes or rapid movement. I can probably adjust that away. Or, professionally calibrate that away. rolleyes.gif

I tried to calibrate my TV with the settings I found online. All started with "movie" mode, and then tried to make everything soft and silky. But normal cable TV (80% of my family's viewing) is not that. It looked stupid. It softened everything to the point of absurdity. I went back to square 1 and I'm now a few clicks away from factory settings. Does that make me an idiot?

I guess my point is, can I calibrate the F8000 myself with help from the Forum? Or do I need to pay some dude $300 to come to my house and bump my blues, tone down my reds, kill the contrast, not crush my blacks, and turn my bright, poppy TV into a flatscreen of mush?

See...B.S. post again!frown.gif

From my understanding, you can buy a calibration blu-ray and do some tweaking yourself using the regular menu. This would get your brightness, tint, color saturation, etc all set correctly.

A $300 professional calibration usually involves them going into service menus and making more complicated adjustments and using special meters to measure changes that they make.

I could be wrong, but this is what I have read elsewhere...

Energy RC-70s (2) | Energy RC-LCR | Energy CB-5s (4) | SVS PB-2000 | Pioneer VSX-1020K | Samsung UN65F8000 | PS3 | PS4 | Apple TV (2nd gen) | DirecTV HR34 HMC | Harmony Ultimate
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