Originally Posted by crankyMF
Plasma's are great but, when you look at PDP and LCD panels with their pros and cons - I guess F8000 is a winner IMO. No IR, no babysitting with the set
Plug it in and enjoy. Unless Panny will fix IR issues this year, tho I doubt that it will happen.
I never babysit my plasma nor suffer any image retention.... I don't see that as a con, but.....
Originally Posted by Ken Ross
I agree Cranky. I'll sacrifice a tiny hit in MLL in return for a much brighter display that has zero worries. Visually, if the black levels are very close, the much brighter luminance values of LED can rule the day for many.
With that said, I'm still looking forward to the F8500, but I do still have concerns about IR and burn-in potential for such a bright plasma.
... I would like something brighter sometimes.... Of course, I'd also like to maintain the 4800:1 ANSI of my VT50, not drop to 3000:1, like the F8000... That's a substantial fall off....
I realize, Ken, you're just talking top of mind, but the idea that the brightness of the Samsung F8500 makes it more prone to "problems" is suspect. The nature of the changes to get it there doesn't suggest anything that ought to cause more problems with respect to image retention. And burn-in is just nonsense given phosphor life....
That said, Robert gets a true 80 ft/L in daytime mode on that F8000. If the new plasma manages a true 60, that'd be stunning (keep in mind that plasmas get whacked by ABL so when they are "calibrated to x" that's often a bit deceptive because on the brightest scenes, they aren't that bright
Originally Posted by gweempose
To me, the main advantage that PDPs still have over LCDs is motion handling. LCDs have made great strides in black levels, but they are still inferior in this one category. I have two LCDs and two PDPs in my house, so I think I'm pretty unbiased when I make this claim.
I have one of each and yes, the motion looks better on the plasma. But for me, it's still the off-axis thing more than anything. Most of the motion problem can be tamped down on an LCD by getting rid of as much frame interpolation as possible and as much of its silly "improvement" tech as you can shut off. Not all of the difference goes away, but it closes the gap.