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This is what I meant to post earlier. I called Vizio about this and they said their is some give in the screen and it is normal too keep it from breaking and if this was damaged I feel their might be a crack or something. Is this normal...I can see these lights basically around the whole left side and the bottom, obviously cant get a view of the top. Anyone else have this with an LED? Can only been seen at the angles I took the pictures...


anyone at all smile.gif...really curious if you guys have seen this before, ive been back and forth with vizio and they wont budge claiming its normal, I disagree!
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anyone at all smile.gif...really curious if you guys have seen this before, ive been back and forth with vizio and they wont budge claiming its normal, I disagree!

Can you take another picture if the issue please?

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I have the 80" and just inspected. I see no signs of that bleeding or LEDs poking out light as your pic exhibits.

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New to the forum and want to thank everyone who has posted - been extremely helpful in my research. My Lg 52LG70 has started the dreaded clicking on/off and with several tries I have not been able to find a fix. So, after doing some research I had come across the Panasonic VIERA TC-P60ST60 and the Vizio M series. Stopped by Costco to take a look at the Vizio today and, overall, really liked the tv (though the picture wasn't the best, but I blame that to lack of calibration and position). As much good as I have heard on the Panny, I have heard quite a bit on the Vizio M as well, and will most likely be stopping by Costco tomorrow to pick one up (and the square trade warranty). Anyone else look at the Panny compared to the Vizio M?

My only dilemma is which size to buy - 55" vs 60". They both had the same screen (no where near as glossy as the 65"). Trying to compare them back and forth, just wanting to make sure that I am not missing a difference between the two (other than the $300 price difference and size difference). Looking forward to getting this setup and trying out the 3d, though this is temporarily putting off my subwoofer replacement.

Thanks for any thoughts!

Having read all 170+ pages of this thread (as they were written), I can say personally that I wouldn't go anywhere near the 55! This is based on anecdotal evidence from folks that bought them, had problems that they reported here and returned them (in some cases many times), with many throwing in the towel and upgrading to the 60 which seems to be (again based on anecdotal evidence) the best of the bunch. Below is a diagram showing the differences in zone patterns for their Smart Dimming algorithms employed by each model as well. I'm sure guys that actually have owned problematic 55's will chime in as to details...

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Thanks Peter. Great to know. Im seriously considering the M series myself.

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I had 2 different M47'S. Each one had two bright spots in the upper top right corner. I saw the same problem in the display in BJ''S. The two sets I purchased at Costco were manufactured in week 28 and the BJ'S display was week 27. When I returned the second M47 to Costco I noticed the same flaw in there display model too. I pointed out the defect to the employee working the TV section and he agreed. The Vizio had a really great picture in calibrated mode but the bright spots made me return it. I ended up buying a Samsung 46" 6350 from Costco.
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Sorry if this has already been covered.
Can someone briefly tell me what the difference is between the E601-iA3 and the M601d-A3R? I compared the specs and as far as I can tell the difference is the M series is 3d, has Local Dimming and a higher contrast ratio. Is there anything Im missing.
Also I figure you guys would know if there are any quality issues regarding either one.

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Hello everyone,

I have followed this conversation for sometime. I am replacing my samsung 52" lcd as it only  displays the picture with the right side of the screen doing multiple vertical roles now.  I am looking to purchase one of 3 tvs, The Sony kdl60r550a, Lg 60lm7200, and of course the Vizio M601d.  Its a tough choice and I have seen all tv's side by side for comparison.  What I see in one, as maybe a bad issue, I have seen in all of them.  Anyway, I think the Sony uses a single core processor, LG uses a dual core processor.

Does anyone know what type processor the Vizio m601d use?   As far as cost, I think the Vizio is the leader for Best bang for the buck.

Do any of you have experiences with these or done comparisons?

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I had 2 different M47'S. Each one had two bright spots in the upper top right corner. I saw the same problem in the display in BJ''S. The two sets I purchased at Costco were manufactured in week 28 and the BJ'S display was week 27. When I returned the second M47 to Costco I noticed the same flaw in there display model too. I pointed out the defect to the employee working the TV section and he agreed. The Vizio had a really great picture in calibrated mode but the bright spots made me return it. I ended up buying a Samsung 46" 6350 from Costco.

I just purchased the 47" from Costco and so far my TV looks very good. Sorry you had trouble with both of yours.

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@gdaversa19 is your panel loose? It is hard to tell from the pics. If so that sucks, Vizio should help you out with that I cannot see why they wouldn't.

I only called customer service once or twice and they were great to me, helped out a lot. I would try calling back and asking to speak to a supervisor and not the low man on the totem pole.

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Having read all 170+ pages of this thread (as they were written), I can say personally that I wouldn't go anywhere near the 55! This is based on anecdotal evidence from folks that bought them, had problems that they reported here and returned them (in some cases many times), with many throwing in the towel and upgrading to the 60 which seems to be (again based on anecdotal evidence) the best of the bunch. Below is a diagram showing the differences in zone patterns for their Smart Dimming algorithms employed by each model as well. I'm sure guys that actually have owned problematic 55's will chime in as to details...


Peter, thank for the info! I was leaning towards the 60", but this definitely makes the decision easier. Heading over to Costco after this post and looking forward to getting this set up and trying out Ursa's settings. Will post my thoughts once I have a chance.
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@gdaversa19 is your panel loose? It is hard to tell from the pics. If so that sucks, Vizio should help you out with that I cannot see why they wouldn't.

I only called customer service once or twice and they were great to me, helped out a lot. I would try calling back and asking to speak to a supervisor and not the low man on the totem pole.

It does have some give...I actually just figured Id try my luck again last night and that picture right there convinced them to give me a replacement, my concern is this will be my 4TH replacement from them, I just have been so unlucky with vizio.
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my concern is this will be my 4TH replacement from them, I just have been so unlucky with vizio.
eek.gif Thats pretty discouraging. Maybe I should look elsewhere.

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HELP!!!  Am waiting for black Friday to pull the plug and get the M55 from Amazon.  But after reading this thread I'm starting to think I might be better off going with the M60.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  Also, should I opt for the squaretrade extended warranty?  Thanks in advance.

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Mine Had this EXACT same thing This is why I upgraded to a Samsung UN46F6300 and have never looked back.

Loved the VIZIO its 240hz Smooth Motion is the best I have ever seen For Gaming.


But too many QC issues Could not stand the Remote, and Lack of POP in colors. And Clouding and Flash lighting that Can't be Helped.
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LOL...I meant pull the trigger!  Maybe that was my subconscious telling me to pull the plug on the 55!  My eyes are blooming and bleeding after reading so many posts....anyway, in addition to my question regarding the 55 vs the 60, if anyone would like to chime in regarding purchasing from Amazon vs Costco or another retailer.  My reasons for going with Amazon are 1. Free shipping  2. No sales tax   3. 12 months no interest financing with my Amazon store card.  Thanks.

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LOL...I meant pull the trigger!  Maybe that was my subconscious telling me to pull the plug on the 55!  My eyes are blooming and bleeding after reading so many posts....anyway, in addition to my question regarding the 55 vs the 60, if anyone would like to chime in regarding purchasing from Amazon vs Costco or another retailer.  My reasons for going with Amazon are 1. Free shipping  2. No sales tax   3. 12 months no interest financing with my Amazon store card.  Thanks.

Costco gives an extra year warranty free and has a better return policy (90 days).

That said, I had a great experience with Amazon. I ended up buying the Costco SquareTrade warranty for my 55 inch, so I ended up with 4 years coverage. I had some minor issues with my TV which amazon provided refunds for - bringing the total cost of my 55 below $800.
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Tomorrow i will try to get to best buy and take a look at this tv and others...the more i read the more unsure i become...information overload
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It does have some give...I actually just figured Id try my luck again last night and that picture right there convinced them to give me a replacement, my concern is this will be my 4TH replacement from them, I just have been so unlucky with vizio.

Sorry if I missed it but what size M-series are you having all these problems with?
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@Peter I had vertical banding on the 55 and bad crosstalk during 3D on the 60". Other than those huge, glaring issues each tv was great.
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I would just like to say I have the 60" and have had none of the issues listed on this site. (Knocks on wood). And it seems that the 60" is the least problematic of all the sizes. At least that's what it seems after reading every post here. Anyway I hope this helps some people make their decision on which size to get. If anyone has had any issues at all with the 60 please reply. I have had this set for about 4 months now and I absolutely love it.
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I did a quick scan of some of this thread and there have been issues with every size.

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Right, " least problematic".
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I've been eyeing the 60in for a good while now. Unfortunately I've been unable to find a 'real' contrast ratio measurement. Some UK cites do a really good job at presenting that information, but since Vizio is a US brand, I've not seen any measurement. What are the black levels like on this TV, I've heard they're grey-ish.

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Tomorrow i will try to get to best buy and take a look at this tv and others...the more i read the more unsure i become...information overload

I'm very happy with mine. I think if I had gone back, I would have grabbed the 60 inch.
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After going to the store and looking at all the tvs, I am going with a Samsung 6300 or 6400.   The vizio m's picture looked muted, definitely not as clear as the samsungs.

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After going to the store and looking at all the tvs, I am going with a Samsung 6300 or 6400.   The vizio m's picture looked muted, definitely not as clear as the samsungs.

Well I guess that's why its good at see a set in person... To me the m series looked much more crisp, less saturated than both the Sony 550a and the 6400... The 6400 was also calibrated.. The Sony was not
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When I try to calibrate the colors on ANY SETTING, it starts at 400+ and NOT in the 100s like I read. Any reason why this is?? This is with the 47" model.
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Anyone have the 801-a3r ? Is the screen the mirror one like the 64 inch or is it more matte? I'm reading its the same clear glass with no matte
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