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I've been reading review after review of LCD and LED TV's. 50-60 inchers. Every time I think I've decided on what to buy, I read something that disturbs me about a particular set, and get "cold feet".

One guy will say brand XYZ, model ABC is great, and another guy will say it has banding, or crappy blacks, etc.

So.....what are your recommendations for the "best" picture quality for $1800-2500 or so?

I have a 4 year old Toshiba Regza that has served e well, and still looks pretty good, actually. Just looking for something new.

And is it ME or do all the better sets have all this "smart TV" stuff on them? I already have all that stuff on my SR7007 and my Oppo BDP-103. But I guess I'll get more on a TV whether I like it or not?

Bottom line....I could care less about the networked stuff. I just want the highest quality picture I can get for my money.

thanks for any input.

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I've been reading review after review of LCD and LED TV's. 50-60 inchers. Every time I think I've decided on what to buy, I read something that disturbs me about a particular set, and get "cold feet".

One guy will say brand XYZ, model ABC is great, and another guy will say it has banding, or crappy blacks, etc.

So.....what are your recommendations for the "best" picture quality for $1800-2500 or so?

I have a 4 year old Toshiba Regza that has served e well, and still looks pretty good, actually. Just looking for something new.

And is it ME or do all the better sets have all this "smart TV" stuff on them? I already have all that stuff on my SR7007 and my Oppo BDP-103. But I guess I'll get more on a TV whether I like it or not?

Bottom line....I could care less about the networked stuff. I just want the highest quality picture I can get for my money.

thanks for any input.
If you are strictly using it for film based content you can't go wrong with the Panasonic 55" VT50:$1999.99 or Samsung 60" E8000:$1899.99.
If you game at all I would recommend the 55" Sony HX850:$1999.99 or the Sharp 60" LE845U:$1799.99. Hope that will guide you in a general direction.
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Those are similar to the LED sets I keep flip flopping on. I prefer an LED as I want a thin TV that doesn't suck so much power.

I can't make up my mind between them. I've been leaning towards the Samsung or the Panasonic. I guess it like having to choose between a blonde and a brunette. They each have their virtues.

I watch a lot of Blu-Rays and my TV viewing leans heavily towards sports.

Where are you finding this one for 1999? I'm seeing 2500 most places:

Sony KDL55HX850 55" Class 1080p 240Hz LED .

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Those are similar to the LED sets I keep flip flopping on. I prefer an LED as I want a thin TV that doesn't suck so much power.

I can't make up my mind between them. I've been leaning towards the Samsung or the Panasonic. I guess it like having to choose between a blonde and a brunette. They each have their virtues.

I watch a lot of Blu-Rays and my TV viewing leans heavily towards sports.

Where are you finding this one for 1999? I'm seeing 2500 most places:

Sony KDL55HX850 55" Class 1080p 240Hz LED .

Sorry all the prices are for best buy as of today.
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Thanks. Not a single Best Buy in my area has one n stock.

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Thanks. Not a single Best Buy in my area has one n stock.

They won't be in store unless it was a cancelled special order. Since all the sets are Magnolia showroom models they will all have to be ordered into the store.
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Thanks. Not a single Best Buy in my area has one n stock.
Zombie do you have a ABC Warehouse in your area? Online it says it is out of stock for the Sony 850 but my local ABC has a few in stock. SW Mich. I'm looking to get the 950. I was told by a Pauls TV salesman he enjoys the picture of the Panasonic WT50 and that is going for $1500 for a 55" in my area.

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I'm in Seattle. I ALMOST took a drive today to look at a Panasonic VT50, but for some reason I couldn't get motivated. The only Ione located is kinda far away.

Even though I said LED/LCD, that particular plasma has my interest. I'm hearing that the screen isn't a mirror and it performs pretty well in a lit room. Two of my concerns with most Plasmas.

I'd sure like to see it next to the Sony 850. But nobody around here seems to stock both.

Best Buy has the Samsung ES8000. I looked at it, and it sure is bright. Almost bought it.

This is worse than buying a computer. lol

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I'm in the same boat. My 10 yr. 50" plasma went out a few weeks ago. I've been debating between Sony, Panasonic, Elite and Samsung. I'm pretty sure I'm pulling the trigger on a Sony 950 tomorrow. Already spoke with my local BB mgr. about it. Kind of excited. Their going to PM Amazon.

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Is it true that plasma tv's should not be transported by laying the box flat, and they should be always standing "on edge"?

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Is it true that plasma tv's should not be transported by laying the box flat, and they should be always standing "on edge"?

this is true of all flat panel sets, not just plasma. The sets are supported inside the box by styrofoam blocks around the edges, if laid flat and you hit a sharp enough bump the screen can flex and break. The bigger the screen size the more likelihood of damage.

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How serious is the screen "burn in" on something like the VT50? I like leaving Pandora up on the screen with the song info, for hours at a time.

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How serious is the screen "burn in" on something like the VT50? I like leaving Pandora up on the screen with the song info, for hours at a time.

I had the UT50 (lower end model) for a couple weeks and had issues with IR from ESPN and CNN ticker logos and game HUDs. No burn in as it wasn't permanent, but some times it was stubborn and took several hours of watching other content for it not to be noticeble on bright screens (white commercial backgrounds, hockey ice, basketball court etc.). The set also had a loud buzz (that a servicing buy a tech didn't fix), so I decided to send it back and got a Panny ET5 LED set. I couldn't live with the buzz and didn't want to worry about IR at all since I like to leave ESPN on for hours on end, sometimes game for 6+ hours a few times a week if I'm sucked into a new game etc.

As for Pandora, does whatever you're using not go to a screen saver mode? I use the Pandora app on my DirecTV DVR and after a couple minutes it goes into a screen saver mode that moves the album/song info around the screen.


Overall, the risk of permanent burn in on plasmas isn't that great anymore. But stubborn Image Retention can be annoying if you're like me and have hours and hours of static images from things, with a few movies mixed in here and there. So I'd stay away from plasma if you have any kind of repeated static images. But consider it you watch a lot of movies, a lot of different channels etc. as the varied content will clear up any IR from logos and keep it from becoming stubborn and hard to get rid of.
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I think I will eventually have to flip a coin.

The VT50 appeals to me for Blu-Ray movies that I watch a lot.

The ES8000 LED appeals to me for everything else.

The HX850 appeals to me just because.

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If you happen to come into a good situation where you find a sony hx 950, i would drfinitely recommend that.

I went in to my local sony centre (plumouth, uk) and they had a 929/239 set up directly above a 850/853 and the difference was substantial. Brighter image without losing detail and in the store i could see no zones on show, i wished i had the spare money in my bank there and then.

Better colour, better black, better brightness.

950 and 929 are only really a cosmetic difference from what others here say
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I'm done flip flopping. I picked up the ES8000 at Best Buy, and after about a half hour of setup, I am now watching it. I decided that with my room being fairly bright during the day, an LED would be best for me instead of a plasma.

I really like the "window" effect I get, with the small bezel. The picture is great out of the box, but I'm sure I will tweak it a little eventually.

The blacks are blacker than I thought they would be, and colors are vibrant.

Amazingly, I was able to bring it home, and set it up all by myself. Its really not very heavy.

Oh, and i DID figure out what ARC on HDMI2 is for. I was hooked up to HDMI1 and got no sound through my SR7007 when playing the built in apps. Changing it to HDMI2 made the sound work through the receiver. My Amazon Prime account works just fine on this TV. All my movies are in the menu.

On tap for tonight is The Avengers on Blu-Ray. I'm looking forward to it.

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Congratulations. I almost pulled the trigger on the Samsung 55". My friend has one. Then the salesman said I would go with the 60" b4 the 55" I'm getting another headache at this time. Said he has both the 55 and 60 side by side with the newest update and the 60 looks better to his eyes. He said maybe different panels. This was over the phone. So yesterday I got a hold of my local BB for a Sony 950 55" they priced matched Amazon plus a little better so I went with it. Waiting for delivery. Hopefully for us these sets will last 10 years.

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