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post #1 of 4 Old 02-16-2013, 05:12 AM - Thread Starter
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Hey Gang,

Looking for the above. Last year it was a no-brainer; go w/ Samsung and pick your feature set. This year I'm reading that the Samsungs have a drop in PQ w/ their current crop of LED TVs. Is that true? And is it bad enough to warrant another brand?

Where should I be looking fellas? I was thinking the ES6100 fit the bill for features. I keep reading even advanced panels with CMR higher than 256, you guys are turning it off anyway.

Also, latency is important to me (I game on the TV as well).

Plasma isn't a option as my TV room is too damned bright !
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Many reports from CES say that Samsungs 2013 LEDs actually have better PQ than last years (better blacks, no clouding ect.). However, those reports are for their F8000 LED which is the most feature heavy.

Unfortunately, if you want a 2013 TV with the best PQ, then you will have to get a smart TV. I'm in a similar situation to you, as I don't really need the smart features either but I do want the best PQ and fast response time for playing PS3 (and soon PS4). I'm not sure what your budget is, but here are my recommendations:

-2013:

1. Samsung F8000 ( Samsungs flagship LED, new design, no clouding, better colors and overall better PQ)

2. Sony W900 (replacement to last years HX850, HX950 design, triluminous LED tech for better colors)

-2012:

1. Samsung ES8000 (they are very cheap now, and a new FW update fixed a lot of the PQ problems)

2. Sony HX950 (true backlit LED, you find a 55" for around $3200)

3. Sony HX850 (you lose the true backlit LED from the 950 but the PQ is still good, blacks won't be as dark though)

So far these are the only LEDs I know of, that have good blacks, good uniformity, and fast response time. There are other good LEDs such as the LG LM8600 (and the 2013 version) but they either have uniformity problems, or grayish blacks.
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Many reports from CES say that Samsungs 2013 LEDs actually have better PQ than last years (better blacks, no clouding ect.). However, those reports are for their F8000 LED.

This is also what they said last year about the ES8000s compared to the D8000s, so you have to take everything they say with a grain of salt. We all know how the 65ES8000 turned out. Bottom line, temper enthusiasm until the first actual production units roll out. Also, it doesn't matter how good a Samsung F8000 is unless they fix their piss poor quality control as they ship out way too many duds. Who cares if they have better blacks or no clouding if you are still dealing with dead pixels on 1/3 of their sets as it seems like and horrendous vertical banding on their 65+ sets.
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I was just going to grab a 60ES6100 and call it a day. Update the firmware on it, and move on.
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