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I bought 2 of the Antec 55 inch bias lighting, and they work great when plugged into the usb. When the TV turns off the bias lighting turns back on briefly, but they eventually turn off (after maybe 10 seconds). It must just be part of the TV's shutdown routine.

Perfect, thank you. You like the look of those lights?
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They perform pretty well when there are no lights on. You could probably get by with just one strip, but I decided to get two since my wall is a pretty dark brown (old 60's style fake wood paneling...), so the bias lighting isn't nearly as effective. If you have a much lighter wall like a light grey, a single strip would probably be enough. But the strips are reasonably priced (I got mine super cheap here http://www.computers-canada.ca/store/products/1027015803/HDTV%20Bias%20Lighting/Antec/), you might just want to get two just in case, or you could use the second on another set.
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Finally got chance to setup my W900 which I received 2-3 weeks ago from sony store. I was waiting in new tv cabinet from Costco.

Ran few panel test from Disney wow disk. No issues such as dead pixel, clouding or nonuniformity panel etc.

Haven't fully calibrated yet. But I can say this set rocks...WOW out of the box with dish HD, PS3, PS4 and bluray.

Pics coming shortly.
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Finally got chance to setup my W900 which I received 2-3 weeks ago from sony store. I was waiting in new tv cabinet from Costco.

Ran few panel test from Disney wow disk. No issues such as dead pixel, clouding or nonuniformity panel etc.

Haven't fully calibrated yet. But I can say this set rocks...WOW out of the box with dish HD, PS3, PS4 and bluray.

Pics coming shortly.

Congratulations! With no dead pixels or uniformity issues you should end up with an amazing picture!

What is the build date of your tv? It's at the bottom center of the serial number sticker on the back.
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Congratulations! With no dead pixels or uniformity issues you should end up with an amazing picture!

What is the build date of your tv? It's at the bottom center of the serial number sticker on the back.
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Dec 2013.
I ordered it on Feb 20th and delivered on February 28th.
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I ordered it on Feb 20th and delivered on February 28th.

That's good. I'm pretty sure they stopped making these in January 2014 so yours is one of the latest builds. I also set mine up using the wow disk so I'm looking forward to seeing what your settings are.

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That's good. I'm pretty sure they stopped making these in January 2014 so yours is one of the latest builds. I also set mine up using the wow disk so I'm looking forward to seeing what your settings are.

I haven't calibrated yet, just using default setting. I ran few panel test to make sure there are no issues with the panel.

Here are the few pics I took.













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Very nice! The picture on these sets is so good! Let us know what your settings are when you finish calibrating.

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what color temp did you use while doing this?
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Well got my set all calibrated this morning and what is surprising to me is that the settings that were dialed in were practically the same as the ones Tom Norton used to calibrate the W9 reviewed at Sound And Vision.Com. My set looks fabulous I will say that. The guy who calibrated my set dialed in everything via CalMan SpectraCal plus some other tools and it took a little over 3 1/2 hours to do. Settings on the W9 out of box look excellent but after calibration they are out of this world and I will go on record to say that the PQ and black levels are the best I have ever seen on an HDTV and that includes Plasma's as well, yes I just said that and is only my opinion mind you. There are a few adjustments I asked to be left on such as the Eco Sensor, Black Corrector set to low (Even though it don't need it!), and Reality Creation and Motionflow (My Preferences) because I just like the look of the picture when those are on. Otherwise that's it and I can FINALLY say I have the tv I have wanted and have been looking for. Size, PQ, Black Levels, perfection in every area you name it. Sony's W9 is all I could have asked for in a tv. My advise to anyone out there is get your tv Calibrated if possible because it does indeed make one hell of a big difference.
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I purchased this tv as an open item but it was missing the screws that go in to the base. Where can I find replacements? Does anyone have the exact screw type? I could not find it in the manual.
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what color temp did you use while doing this?

Warm1 in Cinema setting.

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Well got my set all calibrated this morning and what is surprising to me is that the settings that were dialed in were practically the same as the ones Tom Norton used to calibrate the W9 reviewed at Sound And Vision.Com. My set looks fabulous I will say that. The guy who calibrated my set dialed in everything via CalMan SpectraCal plus some other tools and it took a little over 3 1/2 hours to do. Settings on the W9 out of box look excellent but after calibration they are out of this world and I will go on record to say that the PQ and black levels are the best I have ever seen on an HDTV and that includes Plasma's as well, yes I just said that and is only my opinion mind you. There are a few adjustments I asked to be left on such as the Eco Sensor, Black Corrector set to low (Even though it don't need it!), and Reality Creation and Motionflow (My Preferences) because I just like the look of the picture when those are on. Otherwise that's it and I can FINALLY say I have the tv I have wanted and have been looking for. Size, PQ, Black Levels, perfection in every area you name it. Sony's W9 is all I could have asked for in a tv. My advise to anyone out there is get your tv Calibrated if possible because it does indeed make one hell of a big difference.

Congratulations on the calibration, it sounds like it turned it really well. Could you post some of your settings? Maybe the ones that are most differebt from tbe norton settings and your white balance numbers?

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Well got my set all calibrated this morning and what is surprising to me is that the settings that were dialed in were practically the same as the ones Tom Norton used to calibrate the W9 reviewed at Sound And Vision.Com. My set looks fabulous I will say that. The guy who calibrated my set dialed in everything via CalMan SpectraCal plus some other tools and it took a little over 3 1/2 hours to do. Settings on the W9 out of box look excellent but after calibration they are out of this world and I will go on record to say that the PQ and black levels are the best I have ever seen on an HDTV and that includes Plasma's as well, yes I just said that and is only my opinion mind you. There are a few adjustments I asked to be left on such as the Eco Sensor, Black Corrector set to low (Even though it don't need it!), and Reality Creation and Motionflow (My Preferences) because I just like the look of the picture when those are on. Otherwise that's it and I can FINALLY say I have the tv I have wanted and have been looking for. Size, PQ, Black Levels, perfection in every area you name it. Sony's W9 is all I could have asked for in a tv. My advise to anyone out there is get your tv Calibrated if possible because it does indeed make one hell of a big difference.

Congratulations on the calibration, it sounds like it turned it really well. Could you post some of your settings? Maybe the ones that are most differebt from tbe norton settings and your white balance numbers?

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I..h I will post my settings tomorrow for you to make comparisons to your settings. Like the Calibrator who did my tv said not everyone's settings will be the same due to room lighting conditions ect so your settings may not work well on mine and vise versa. Calibrations are specific to each tv if that makes any sense at all. But again what totally shocked me is how close the settings after calibration matched Tom Norton's over at Sound And Vision so Tom knows what he's doing and he should after calibrating and reviewing TV's over the years. But I will post the calibrated settings on my tv tomorrow. smile.gif

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Thanks. Yeah, the reason I posted white balance settings for both my tv's was to illustrate that each set may need different settings to achieve the same picture.

I also started out with the Norton settings when I got my first w900a and they were great starting point.

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I am getting this set delivered today.

Is there some best settings for this set?
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I am getting this set delivered today.

Is there some best settings for this set?

You'll see a lot of settings thrown around this thread, but also understand that those settings are very environment specific. Sometimes even panel specific. Take them with a grain of salt.

I will say this though - I got this set last week and spent a couple days calibrating with the WoW disc and my own personal preference, and during that time I had forgotten to turn off the ECO light bar. When I finally did there was a noticeable difference in darkness and contrast. So, yeah, turn off all those ECO options.
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You'll see a lot of settings thrown around this thread, but also understand that those settings are very environment specific. Sometimes even panel specific. Take them with a grain of salt.

I will say this though - I got this set last week and spent a couple days calibrating with the WoW disc and my own personal preference, and during that time I had forgotten to turn off the ECO light bar. When I finally did there was a noticeable difference in darkness and contrast. So, yeah, turn off all those ECO options.

Hehe, where do I turn theese off? smile.gif

Are they on as standard?
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Thanks. Yeah, the reason I posted white balance settings for both my tv's was to illustrate that each set may need different settings to achieve the same picture.

I also started out with the Norton settings when I got my first w900a and they were great starting point.


Ok I...h here's the setting's from my Calibrated W900:


Picture Mode: Cinema 1
Backlight: 2
Picture: 90
Brightness:50
Color: 55
Hue: 0
Color Temp: Warm 2
Sharpness: 50
MPEG Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot Noise Reduction: Off
Reality Creation: Manual (My choice)
Video Area Detection: Auto
Resolution: Min
Noise Filtering: Min
Smooth Gradation: Low (My Choice)

Advanced Settings:

Black Corrector: Low (My choice)
Advanced Contrast Enhancer: Off
Gamma: 0
LED Dynamic Control: Standard
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear White: Off
Live Color: Off

White Balance:

R-Gain: 0
G-Gain: 0
B-Gain: -1

R-Bias: -1
G-Bias: -1
B-Bias+1

Detail Enhancer: Medium (My choice)
Edge Enhancer: Off
Skin Naturalizer: Off

Screen Setting: Full Pixel

Pro Picture Setup:

Video Color Space: Auto
Photo Color Space: Auto
Color Matrix: Auto
Dynamic Range: Auto
SBM: On

Power Saving; Low
Light Sensor: On (My choice.


So there they are. Settings as Calibrated by a professional and the tools he used were extensive but most important SpectraCal's Calman. 3D is a little different and if you want those settings just let me know. But again I want to stress that my settings may not be for everyone because setting's vary from tv to tv.
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Hehe, where do I turn theese off? smile.gif

Are they on as standard?

They're actually under the Preferences and Settings menu - not in the Picture settings - listed as ECO.
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I am getting this set delivered today.

Is there some best settings for this set?

You'll see a lot of settings thrown around this thread, but also understand that those settings are very environment specific. Sometimes even panel specific. Take them with a grain of salt.

I will say this though - I got this set last week and spent a couple days calibrating with the WoW disc and my own personal preference, and during that time I had forgotten to turn off the ECO light bar. When I finally did there was a noticeable difference in darkness and contrast. So, yeah, turn off all those ECO options.


I was considering turning the light senor off on my W9 but left it on due to power saving which in my home every penny counts!

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I was considering turning the light senor off on my W9 but left it on due to power saving which in my home every penny counts!

But then you did just spend $1700+ on a television. =P
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I was considering turning the light senor off on my W9 but left it on due to power saving which in my home every penny counts!

So you have the eco settings on?
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I was considering turning the light senor off on my W9 but left it on due to power saving which in my home every penny counts!

So you have the eco settings on?


Yes my Light Sensor is set to on.

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Steve,
Thanks for the settings. They are very different than mine. I may try them on one of mine this evening just to see what it looks like.

I have seen some very different Specracal settings posted here and on review sites. Some of the biggest differences have been Color Temp and Gamma settings (and single steps on those make relatively large changes).

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Yes my Light Sensor is set to on.

What does the light sensors do?
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Hey, thanks for the input delfincek. I look forward to setting it up and experimenting with the PQ settings later this week or this weekend when it arrives.

Where did you get the idea I'm getting an EU version? Is it because of what I wrote about seeing the side-by-side comparison to the 55W805A? I actually meant to type 55W802A? Anyway, no matter.. Thanks for your reply.
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I'm actually reading this entire thread now (wow!) but it will take me a whiiile...

So a quick simple (maybe stupid) question:

Does rear bias lighting help at all with bright sunlight glare and reflection during the daytime? Or is bias lighting only going to help with contrast etc., in a mostly darkened room? Thanks in advance..
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Thanks for the settings. They are very different than mine. I may try them on one of mine this evening just to see what it looks like.

I have seen some very different Specracal settings posted here and on review sites. Some of the biggest differences have been Color Temp and Gamma settings (and single steps on those make relatively large changes).

Yea you see different settings all the time and like I said some work and some don't. It all depends on preferences and room lighting. All that matters is how the PQ on the W9 looks to you and your eye. But I have said it once and I will say it again and that is in my opinion the W9 has the best PQ on a tv that I have seen in a long time from Sony. It has totally made me pass on buying or even thinking of buying a Sony 4K tv anytime soon or in the near future. I am am set and now turning my attention to maybe upgrading my AV Reciever and speakers and maybe just maybe my Blu ray player.

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Yes my Light Sensor is set to on.

What does the light sensors do?


What essentially the Light Senor does is control the backlighting when either the room the tv is in a dark room or a light room and some say it effects contrast as well. Some leave it off because they want their tv bright all the time which uses more power. Me I prefer to leave it on and have it do its thing. But its up to the individual and what they like. To me there is no right or wrong if you want to have it on or not.

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Hiya T.man, I think i miss read your post instead W805A i read it W905A and W905A is an EU model of W900 TV set that is made for American market. In the past we discovered that there are minor differences between the EU and Amercian W9XX TV set. Sorry for this misunderstanding.
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