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Old 04-19-2015, 03:59 PM
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for the average piece of high street electronics made in 3e world countries that is pretty correct

but this is where manufacturing quality and product design (components) comes in. and it should be the case that for the more reputable brands, and particularly their higher end models, that we have a 10+ years life expectancy for this type of product (unless you are extremely unlucky and get a monday lemon). lcd is also a mature and well understood technology, and if no manufacturing errors occur, should have a fairly predictable lifespan.

my estimate, and we can only talk personal opinions or refer to consumer reports here, would be that in 10 yrs time 90% of the higher end tv models from brands like sony/samsung/LG/panasonic will still be functioning perfectly fine. and most of the faulty ones will have been identified in the first few months (or even weeks) of use. and that is what the average consumer has to be able to expect for a good TV, fridge or washing machine. most people who will purchase new products within that 10 yr time span would do so out of choice because they want new features or a newer product of a different design.

in contrast, most of the big electronic stores that sell "no brand" cheap chinese crap (pardon my french) at discount prices will have a high failure rate. these devices are made from parts provided by the lowest bidders, are designed to provide basic features with low spec technology, use cheap manufacturing processes, and have poor quality control. Their sales model is also based on profits to be made from by high volume sales at low discounted prices , and high failure rates are simply part of this

however in our case, other then in the future maybe wanting a larger display or a newer/better technology (like oled in 5 yrs or so when the technology has matured) most of us should be pretty safe expecting +10 yrs imho. btw, most current oled tv's do have a limited lfespan, and early reports indicate one of the 3 primary color oled's used in many of those screens only lasts for 2 or 3 yrs (after which ii starts to fade prematurely, and this obviously would distort the quality of the image). for early adopters who have money to burn this might not matter, in a couple of yrs they would move onto the next toy

Well said Jorgens. Couldnt have said better.
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it looks like Samsung might have its version of the W9.

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55JS8500FXZA

Its a 4K with QD. I haven't seen it in person yet but Im very curious how it stacks
up to our beloved W9.
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it looks like Samsung might have its version of the W9.

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55JS8500FXZA

Its a 4K with QD. I haven't seen it in person yet but Im very curious how it stacks
up to our beloved W9.

helvetica bold, I am also interested to see how it stacks up against our W900A's as well. On paper it looks to be a beautiful set from Samsung but until I see it in person thats all I will say. I have said it once and I will say it again and that is I think it was a BIG mistake for Sony to drop the QD technology.
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^^ I think it's all about timing. There was no need for Sony to utilize QD to sell 4K TVs over the last couple of years. And certainly not in their interest to have a lower definition TV in their line up that is able to compete with their 4K TVs with respect to picture quality. At least for 99% of the content used today.

I think QD will make a return in the next year or two once their Marketing team decides it is needed. It's a pity that they let Samsung (apparently) beat them to the punch. Now it will look as if they are simply following the market rather than leading it.

Another explanation behind the lack of development in this area could be that Sony is about to pull the plug on their TV division. So rather than trying to keep pace or ahead of Samsung and the others, Sony are simply trying to recover the cost of developing their current models, and once they've been left behind, they will stop selling TVs.

Most TV manufacturers (and retailers) were expecting a much larger wave of 4K uptake. If Sony's TV division are failing to make their forecast revenue for 4K, they could be on the chopping block. It's been discussed before and I don't think the decision would surprise anyone.

Personally, I'll be gutted if there isn't a competitive Sony TV on the market in 5 to 7 years time when I'm ready to upgrade again.
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there is a good list of some recent movies with high quality video material ( "Reference Status - The 20 Best Blu-rays for Picture and Sound ") at https://www.avforums.com/article/20-...nd-sound.10416

from that lists suggestions i just watched the 50th anniversary special edition and digitally remastered version of "Lawrence of Arabia" , and the quality of the video image was absolutely spectacular on this excellent sony tv (keeping in mind it is a 50 year old movie recorded on analogue film that was remastered to 4K, and not a modern 4k digitally filmed movie ).

the scenery detail and video quality was very good in the new 1080p version i just watched, and it is a completely new experience to see it like this. highly recommended for anybody who liked the movie. with this directors cut they added a lot of the material that had been removed for the original cinema release, but the added footage (particularly of some of the desert scenes) really adds depth of story and gives a more powerful visual impression
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The work to create a newly restored Lawrence of Arabia for 2012 came about because we wanted to present the film in the best way possible for its anniversary. The plan was to fix the damage to the film that couldn’t be fixed in 1988 simply because the technology to do so did not exist at the time. The digital tools available today allow us to repair film damage in a precise manner so as to render the film as close to its original look as possible. We began the work with extensive preparation and testing in 2010. The 65mm original picture negative was scanned at 8k (the equivalent resolution of the 65mm negative), generating a file size of 8192 x 3584 pixels. The film was scanned on two large format 65mm Imagica XE scanners at FotoKem laboratory in Burbank. The files were then reduced to a 4K file size (four times the resolution of High Definition and the highest standard digital workflow) and moved to digital image restoration facility Colorworks at Sony Pictures Studios, where all the restoration work came together.
from the review at http://www.renewtheaters.org/blog/20.../#.VT0fg5ONhUM

highly recommended for anybody who liked this historical movie

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helvetica bold, I am also interested to see how it stacks up against our W900A's as well. On paper it looks to be a beautiful set from Samsung but until I see it in person thats all I will say. I have said it once and I will say it again and that is I think it was a BIG mistake for Sony to drop the QD technology.
I have seen the JS8500 in person and it does not hold a candle to the w900a in terms of depth. All the 2015 Samsung 4K televisions have a contrast ratio around 1900-2000:1 and it really shows. Very flat picture if your used to higher contrast. Also, no one seems to point out the fact that while they do how low input lag, they can only do 4:4:4 in PC mode, which has over 40ms of input lag. Another thing is the w900a has a native 240hz panel, while all current 4K panels are only 120hz panels.
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