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Has the Edge Lit technology caught up to Full Array in 2013 models and does Edge Lit have fewer PQ issues that crop up?

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I want to point out what Katzmaier wrote when he reviewed the full array local dimming HX950
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the picture quality difference between HX850(edge lit) and HX950 isn't worth the $1.000 price difference at 55 inches. I'd only recommend the HX950 to well-heeled TV buyers who don't want Plasma, can't quite afford the sharp Elite Pro, and want to buy the 65-inch size
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-xbr-55hx950/4505-6482_7-35431205.html

So according to Katzmaier there isn't much of a difference between these 2012 models. He also remarks that the HX950 might be the last full array local dimming.
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I want to point out what Katzmaier wrote when he reviewed the full array local dimming HX950
So according to Katzmaier there isn't much of a difference between these 2012 models. He also remarks that the HX950 might be the last full array local dimming.

One major difference is with 3D. The quality of 3D is comparable between the 950 and 850, but the difference I noticed between the two is with the full array like the 950, no flashlighting and light bleed with 3D when backlight and brightness are cranked up to compensate for the glasses, where as with edge lit like the 850, you will notice the flashlighting and light bleed when watching 3D.... and for those who aren't aware, on 2012 Sonys, in 3D the backlight is at max and is greyed out (meaning it can't be lowered) on scene select settings. This was important to me as I watch a lot of 3D and the flashlighting on the edge lit models I tried was very distracting in 3D mode.
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I was wondering about the 2012 Sharp 80 inch 844 Series which is Full Array as compared the new 2013 Series all of which are reputed to be Edge Lit and aesthetically thin.

My question is whether to grab a 2012 or wait for the 2013's.

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Wait for 2013 models and see what they have to offer. Meantime 2012 models prices will drop smile.gif

LC-80LE844U Owner thread
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1397134/official-sharp-aquos-lc-80le844u-owners-thread

btw full array is not full array + local dimming
http://reviews.cnet.com/2795-6482_7-399.html
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One major difference is with 3D. The quality of 3D is comparable between the 950 and 850, but the difference I noticed between the two is with the full array like the 950, no flashlighting and light bleed with 3D when backlight and brightness are cranked up to compensate for the glasses, where as with edge lit like the 850, you will notice the flashlighting and light bleed when watching 3D.... and for those who aren't aware, on 2012 Sonys, in 3D the backlight is at max and is greyed out (meaning it can't be lowered) on scene select settings. This was important to me as I watch a lot of 3D and the flashlighting on the edge lit models I tried was very distracting in 3D mode.

I've found no problem of light bleed or flashlighting with the 3D on my 70 edge-lit set. I have the compensation set to 'Medium' and it doesn't seem much brighter at all.
If you think about it, the glasses darken the screen, so any extra light is not noticed when the backlight compensates. If it is noticeable, maybe it is overcompensating.
It's tricky playing with the 3D settings, but I managed to get the white balance and eliminate the red and green clipping with my calibration settings...
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If I wait for the 2013 Models into April the Full Array Sharp 80 Inch 844's will be sold out. I can get one now for $3,850 plus Tax & Free Delivery.

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For 2013, I have noticed that Sony's budget models (the KDL-32R400A, KDL-40R450A, and KDL-46R453A use something called Direct LED backlighting, which from what I understand is like Full-Array, but uses less LEDs. I wonder if it still uses more LEDs than an Edge LED backlit panel.
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