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post #601 of 614 Unread 07-27-2014, 02:41 PM
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Well, I have the white dots forming all over the bottom of the tv. Time to call customer service to see what they are going to do. Those that have got replacements, have you been satisfied with what they replaced with?
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that will work, I use the HDMI on port one. It has ARC (Audio Return Channel) if your receiver supports it. I believe my Yamaha receiver had it disabled by default.
Sweet, totally forgot about that feature. I ordered a TOSLink cable anyway (before I read this post). Oh well.

It is working properly now.
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Hello all,

I just purchased the 80LE650U after a great sale on Frys that Amazon PM'd. I received my TV over the weekend. I noticed that there is a lot of clouding or DSE as I have seen it referred in this thread. Its more pronounced during the start up screen saying "Sharp" or totally dark scenes. I know this is normal with edge lit LED screens.

What I want to know is what is acceptable clouding?
I see people refer to white spots? is that the same as clouding?

Attached are links to picture of the clouding issue that I am referring to which I felt was excessive but would like others to give their feedback.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...p80/photo3.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...p80/photo2.jpg
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No, if you can see something clearly enough that should not be there but that you are able to photograph, I cannot imagine that would be acceptable.

White dots are literally pinhole size bright white dots. Clouding is large, several inch blobs and paler lightening. Very different.


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Update on my Replacement LCD

Today I received my LC-70EQ10U, about 5hrs ago and I'm very happy with the set so far. It was new in the box, and not a refurbished set like I was told, so that's a big plus to me. The Picture out of box was washed out. The only things I've done so far was set the temp to Mid-low, and moved the color to +15 out of 30 on the user setting. On the old set LE650 I had the color set to -5 or the colors would get over driven, mainly the reds. The off set angle seems better than the old set, still gets washed out just not near as bad, maybe that's because it has double the contrast ratio. When it gets darker out I'll be able to see how bad the clouding is, if any. I'll update on this later. Well it has some clouding on the right side, a bit more than the old set. I don't watch tv in the dark, so I can live with it. All and all, I'm happy with Sharp and there Customer Service. I did end up going to the sharp web site and reg my old set and bought a 3yr. warranty after I noticed the white spot issue.

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Today I received my LC-70EQ10U, about 5hrs ago and I'm very happy with the set so far. It was new in the box, and not a refurbished set like I was told, so that's a big plus to me. The Picture out of box was washed out. The only things I've done so far was set the temp to Mid-low, and moved the color to +15 out of 30 on the user setting. On the old set LE650 I had the color set to -5 or the colors would get over driven, mainly the reds. The off set angle seems better than the old set, still gets washed out just not near as bad, maybe that's because it has double the contrast ratio. When it gets darker out I'll be able to see how bad the clouding is, if any. I'll update on this later.

I wonder if I'll have the same experience as you. I noticed the dots yesterday and called the Costco Concierge and opened a ticket but Sharp customer service was closed. Never had time to call back today, will get to it tomorrow. It's a real shame because except for the dots I've been very happy with this tv - it has a pretty clean even screen. Hope your new set works out!
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I wonder if I'll have the same experience as you. I noticed the dots yesterday and called the Costco Concierge and opened a ticket but Sharp customer service was closed. Never had time to call back today, will get to it tomorrow. It's a real shame because except for the dots I've been very happy with this tv - it has a pretty clean even screen. Hope your new set works out!
Like you, I was happy with my old set. For the price, I thought this tv had a very good pic. Good luck
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No, if you can see something clearly enough that should not be there but that you are able to photograph, I cannot imagine that would be acceptable.

White dots are literally pinhole size bright white dots. Clouding is large, several inch blobs and paler lightening. Very different.
So I guess I have to Ask Amazon for a replacement. Is there any way to guarantee a better panel? Like from serial # or manufacture date? mine is May 2014.

Also any test I can run as soon as TV is delivered to know if its good or return it right away?

Appreciate help input.
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So I guess I have to Ask Amazon for a replacement. Is there any way to guarantee a better panel? Like from serial # or manufacture date? mine is May 2014.

Also any test I can run as soon as TV is delivered to know if its good or return it right away?

Appreciate help input.
Sorry I really don't know of there being any bad batch.

For test patterns, that's tough. What did you watch to see it appear this time?

There is a DVD of test patterns some people use to age the phosphors in a new plasma, made by some avs folks I think, that might be useful I guess.
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Sorry I really don't know of there being any bad batch.

For test patterns, that's tough. What did you watch to see it appear this time?

There is a DVD of test patterns some people use to age the phosphors in a new plasma, made by some avs folks I think, that might be useful I guess.
This one just appeared on the start up screen. Wasnt obvious during the day but when I turned it on at night in dark room, It was obvious.

Would Sharp provide any support on this issue under warranty?

Also any suggestions on a movie to watch that would tell me if the cloudiness impacts the experience? I assume something like a dark knight has a lots of dark scenes or anything since then that experts use to determine the quality of the screen?

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Thinking about buying a LC-60LE650U with a cracked screen. Anybody know where I can buy a replacement screen?
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This one just appeared on the start up screen. Wasnt obvious during the day but when I turned it on at night in dark room, It was obvious.

Would Sharp provide any support on this issue under warranty?

Also any suggestions on a movie to watch that would tell me if the cloudiness impacts the experience? I assume something like a dark knight has a lots of dark scenes or anything since then that experts use to determine the quality of the screen?
Best to call Sharp about warranty service. They will want photos.

For testing, I am told that "The Descent" is a reach good test of dark scene capability. "The Dark Knight" is less ideal because specular highlights will make stuff look better. But if you are not seeing it after several days of watching material, that's a good sign.

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Thinking about buying a LC-60LE650U with a cracked screen. Anybody know where I can buy a replacement screen?
From Sharp. But I cannot imagine its cheaper than just buying a new TV.


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I'd probably raise the green and red a bit to follow the blue curve. Blue is the defining one for your gamma on this set, since it cannot be lowered any further, so what I do is follow the blue curve with red and green so the grayscale is accurate and gamma comes out as good as it will get in game mode. Hope this helps...
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I wish mine looked this good. I re-visted my calibration because I am seeing a lot of green in dark shadows. This is what I'm dealing with:






Anything I do to raise blue on the low end obviously makes the already overly blue 20%-50% area worse. I've tried endless combinations of color temp, another mode with the 10-point calibration (which is worthless by the way), etc..but I feel like this is just something I'm stuck with. Any opinions?
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