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Is sony using IPS panel on its W802a? How can you differentiate between an IPS or VA panel? Any idea if the Samsung tv's are also suffering from the same issues.

where have you been for the past 3 months dude ??? everyone knows it is IPS since day one!!!!!!! samsung DOES not uses ips panels !!!!!!!!!!!!!! at least not on 99% of the models !
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I know Samsung uses its own VA panels. i thought Sony used a non-IPS like in the case of some panasonic tv's this year. since both of them have tied up with AUO for its panels. So than i guess the W802 does not have a good panel.
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The w802a has an excellent panel. They are just very different types of LCD. The IPS panel has excellent color compared to TN or VA. The major downside to the IPS panel is contrast, which is most likely around 1000:1 native. I have had the panasonic DT50 (also IPS), and I have to say the w802a destroys it in picture quality.
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Ok.I got the w805 just yesterday!
Today i've try the EDID hack to get 1080p 3D at 60hz,It works!Using a modified EDID you can hack windows let him thinking tha the w805 is an Acer 3D monitor givin access to the nvidia 3D Vision (for free without the need to buy 3dTV Play that also stuck at 720p@60hz!) and you can play at 1080p@60hz (well in reality it's a kind of interpolated resolution a little lower) thats really amazing and a lot better than 720p without any ghosting!!!
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My light bleed was bad for the first 2 days and then went away on its own. It has stayed gone for weeks now. Sony customers service has sucked since the 90's and maybe longer, they fed me the same BS about mura being normal. The only positive thing they have ever done for me was givinh me $800 for my 6 year old SXRD toward the W802. Of course the law stepped in with a class action law suit and I had to argue with them or I would have only gotten $300 towards an EX645.
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check out the pics at the thread for the samsung f7100 model. some of those sets are also suffering from the torch light effect.
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Hey guys,

I am new to AVS but have been following this thread for a couple of days. Fantastic info! I am making my final choice on a new TV, it's sole purpose being for console gaming.
As I live in Australia we don't have the w802a models, rather a line called w800a. Nobody here can tell me if these two lines have the same specs, I'm really interested in the amazing input lag specs of the w802a, however want to make sure that the w800a is exactly the same.

Does anyone know this to be the case?

PS was looking at the KDL42W800A smile.gif
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Hey guys,

I am new to AVS but have been following this thread for a couple of days. Fantastic info! I am making my final choice on a new TV, it's sole purpose being for console gaming.
As I live in Australia we don't have the w802a models, rather a line called w800a. Nobody here can tell me if these two lines have the same specs, I'm really interested in the amazing input lag specs of the w802a, however want to make sure that the w800a is exactly the same.

Does anyone know this to be the case?

PS was looking at the KDL42W800A smile.gif

They are the same model its called W802a in America. Here in Asia and Australia its referred to as W800 or W80.You could also check out the W700 model which Sony has released only for the Asian continent (Wonder Why). the difference being it does not have 3D and has a 200Hz motion flow instead of the 400 on the W800. It should have the same input lag as both the sets have the same processor (X-reality Pro). its available in 46" and 50". Somehow i found the PQ of the 46" W700 better than the 47" W800. Hope that helps.
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i just bought the 47" w802 at best buy and initially i am impressed with the picture quality and how responsive the tv is. the x-pro chip works really well as the settings out of the box were pretty good at least to me. i also have the 50" r550a as well that im comparing it to. for the r550 for 770 bucks at best buy with the free 3d blu ray, so deciding if its worth an extra 600 bucks to go up to the 802 or not.. i also bought and tried out the samsung f7100 and honestly was not impressed by this tv at all.. didnt like it. colors didnt seem natural. way too over saturated and too bright.. the w802 and r550 honestly do a way better job in this department..

was hoping the w802 would have came down a bit more during the 4th of july but the lowest ive seen is only 200 bucks off the retail..which is the norm..like i said i got the r550a for 770 which is the lowest ill ever get it for...but so far i am happy with the w802 performace and i like their menu system alot better..their SEN seems to be more responsive on this tv.. also the sound on this tv is probably one of the best ive heard on a LED tv.. the samsung f7100 sound was horrible had to put it up also to 70% just to get a decent volume.. the 802 or the 550a have way better sounding speaker that get loud at 50%

on a side note. but in the Avengers 3D blu ray in last night and watched it and i must say the passive 3d on this tv is amazing.. people say active is more HD blah blah blah but honestly i didnt see much if any loss of picture quality with the 3d blu ray and the passive glasses made it easy for watching this long movie. ive had active before and after like 20 min i already had a head ache..
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i just bought the 47" w802 at best buy and initially i am impressed with the picture quality and how responsive the tv is. the x-pro chip works really well as the settings out of the box were pretty good at least to me. i also have the 50" r550a as well that im comparing it to. for the r550 for 770 bucks at best buy with the free 3d blu ray, so deciding if its worth an extra 600 bucks to go up to the 802 or not.. i also bought and tried out the samsung f7100 and honestly was not impressed by this tv at all.. didnt like it. colors didnt seem natural. way too over saturated and too bright.. the w802 and r550 honestly do a way better job in this department..

was hoping the w802 would have came down a bit more during the 4th of july but the lowest ive seen is only 200 bucks off the retail..which is the norm..like i said i got the r550a for 770 which is the lowest ill ever get it for...but so far i am happy with the w802 performace and i like their menu system alot better..their SEN seems to be more responsive on this tv.. also the sound on this tv is probably one of the best ive heard on a LED tv.. the samsung f7100 sound was horrible had to put it up also to 70% just to get a decent volume.. the 802 or the 550a have way better sounding speaker that get loud at 50%

on a side note. but in the Avengers 3D blu ray in last night and watched it and i must say the passive 3d on this tv is amazing.. people say active is more HD blah blah blah but honestly i didnt see much if any loss of picture quality with the 3d blu ray and the passive glasses made it easy for watching this long movie. ive had active before and after like 20 min i already had a head ache..

Can you give a comparison between the W802A and the R550A in terms of motion blur/Motionflow, color, uniformity, etc?
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Thanks for your helpful information. I have found the w700a on a couple of Aus retailer websites, going to head down the street this afternoon and have a look. There is also a model called w670a, do you know if this would also be good for input lag?

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Thanks for your helpful information. I have found the w700a on a couple of Aus retailer websites, going to head down the street this afternoon and have a look. There is also a model called w670a, do you know if this would also be good for input lag?

Mike

Should be cause the W670 has everything in common with the W700 except it does not come in size greater than 42".
I personally compared the W800 to the F6400 in the showroom and the colors and the details looked better on the W800 than the Samsung. the sony was brighter as well. The only thing I could not compare was black level. frisko4one5 have you had the chance to see the black level performance on your set?
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Thanks for your helpful information. I have found the w700a on a couple of Aus retailer websites, going to head down the street this afternoon and have a look. There is also a model called w670a, do you know if this would also be good for input lag?

Mike

I would not assume that just because the other models have the x-reality pro that they have the same input lag. The hx950 has the x-reality pro and it has horrible input lag frown.gif
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Should be cause the W670 has everything in common with the W700 except it does not come in size greater than 42".
I personally compared the W800 to the F6400 in the showroom and the colors and the details looked better on the W800 than the Samsung. the sony was brighter as well. The only thing I could not compare was black level. frisko4one5 have you had the chance to see the black level performance on your set?

I had the F7100 and I can say that the black level is much darker, however that is because the w802a is a IPS while the Samsung models use VA panels. But, I still prefer the w802a over the F7100 because the colors and overall image had more pop. Black level on the w802a is still completely acceptable. Also, while some people do not like the frame dimming feature, I love it because on fade to black scenes it will completely turn off making true black.
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You are absolutely right about the color and overall image having more pop. when i compared this to the samsung F6400 the Sony exhibited better colors and much better detail in the image. The funniest part though was during the side by side comparison of both the tv's the video that was being played must have been supplied by Samsung for their television cause it had their logo on it. This video actually looked better on the w800 than the f6400. Especially the green grass which on the sony was more detailed while on the samsung appeared a bit smudged. I was only worried about the black levels which i could not test in the showroom.
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Hey guys, is there a settings/calibration thread for the KDL-55W805A?

Thanks in advance.
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Hi everyone! My Sony 46HX820 just died after a year and a half. I have the sony extended warranty so I assume they will offer me my money back or the new 47W802A. Any ideas out there?
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If it's bad enough to send back anyway as defective, (and only if), maybe press lightly on the corners and see if you hear a faint popping sound and see if the bleed goes away?

Nutcase idea in general, but....FWIW, the 60" LM7200 (2012 LG model----one with a regular chassis/bezel, not the solid 1-peice facing glass of their other mid-high end models) had some folks able to "reseat" the tolerances (or something else magical happened---don't ask me) and the LED/lightguides no longer "leaked".

Don't blame me if this ruins anything. And for this reason alone, understand that I'm merely reporting on the LM7200 thread findings of posters there, and not suggesting anything at all, and in general recommending you do not try it.

This.

I got my 47" w802a a week ago. I had a good amount of light bleed in the upper-righthand corner (sorry, no pictures). I was planning on returning it, so I thought what the hell and gave the above suggestion a try. I grabbed the bag the tv was wrapped in inside the box to cover my hand and, using a light to medium amount of pressure, pressed about 8-10 inches in from the corner and slid my hand to the corner. I did the same along the top and side edge at the same corner. To my extreme surprise, the light bleed went almost completely away. I noticed there was a bit of light bleed along the middle bottom edge now. If a little is good, a lot must be better, right? smile.gif I basically went over the whole screen using that same amount of pressure (and I DID notice some slight popping sounds here and there), and now my screen looks perfectly uniform!!! Crazy!! If I'd had the slightest inkling this would work, I probably would have used something softer to cover my hand (the plastic was probably fine, but I'm hoping I didn't drag any dust particles along the screen and scratch it or something).

Anyway, I agree, this is probably only something worth trying if you're planning on returning the set, but it's definitely worth trying!

 

FANTASTIC!  I'm glad it helped so much.  My OCD scouring of the LG threads seems to have paid off for someone big!  Though it's actually "CDO" (in alphabetical order like it should be)...


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Can you give a comparison between the W802A and the R550A in terms of motion blur/Motionflow, color, uniformity, etc?

ive only been able to test this for a bit but it seems like the w802 has a better picture than the r550a in terms of colors and pop..it seems alil bit brighter as well. it also has alot more options as far as tweaking color settings and motion, while the r550a is limited in picture adjustment.. motion blur/moition flow seems to be a bit better on this set but both were pretty good in my opinion. as far as uniformity the w802 seems to be better..i dont see any flashlighting on this set while there is slight flashlighting on the top right corner of the r550a.. 3D on this tv is really good and pops out nicely.. watched underworld on blu ray and the blacks were pretty black on the movie, tho i wish the top and bottom wide screen bars were a bit darker...off axis viewing is ok..it does start to go greyish/wash out if u move too much off center..i honestly think the r550a has better off axis viewing maybe its just my eyes playing tricks...the menu system is alot faster and more responsive on the w802 than the 550a....tho one gripe i do have is why the built in wifi doesnt support 5Ghz signals?? and can sometimes be very weak..i think sony put in cheap wifi in these sets. i found the samsungs built in wifi alot faster than the sonys..

now is it worth the extra money to spend on this tv?? i duno..i bought the w802a for $1414 vs paying only $832 plus a free 3d blu ray for thr 50" r550a..this is tax included thats a difference of almost $600 dollars or around $725 if u add the value of the 3d blu ray and i lose 3" of tv.. im still testing the 802 for a few days more than returning it and retesting the r550a to see if there is a major difference to justify a 700 dollar extra premium..

if anybody else wants to chime in with thoughts that would be great =0
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Can you give a comparison between the W802A and the R550A in terms of motion blur/Motionflow, color, uniformity, etc?

ive only been able to test this for a bit but it seems like the w802 has a better picture than the r550a in terms of colors and pop..it seems alil bit brighter as well.

 

Not sure how to take that, because the R550A can be easily made far far too bright for even MY family room which is very bright morning and mid-day.


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Not sure how to take that, because the R550A can be easily made far far too bright for even MY family room which is very bright morning and mid-day.

What I mean is under almost the same settings the w802 seems to be a bit brighter than the r550a. U can always turn up brightness in any tv but it will look like crap. The picture adjustability of the 802 is much better than the 550. 550 has very few options to adjust picture. Given that it still gives a great picture for the right price
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ive only been able to test this for a bit but it seems like the w802 has a better picture than the r550a in terms of colors and pop..it seems alil bit brighter as well. it also has alot more options as far as tweaking color settings and motion, while the r550a is limited in picture adjustment.. motion blur/moition flow seems to be a bit better on this set but both were pretty good in my opinion. as far as uniformity the w802 seems to be better..i dont see any flashlighting on this set while there is slight flashlighting on the top right corner of the r550a.. 3D on this tv is really good and pops out nicely.. watched underworld on blu ray and the blacks were pretty black on the movie, tho i wish the top and bottom wide screen bars were a bit darker...off axis viewing is ok..it does start to go greyish/wash out if u move too much off center..i honestly think the r550a has better off axis viewing maybe its just my eyes playing tricks...the menu system is alot faster and more responsive on the w802 than the 550a....tho one gripe i do have is why the built in wifi doesnt support 5Ghz signals?? and can sometimes be very weak..i think sony put in cheap wifi in these sets. i found the samsungs built in wifi alot faster than the sonys..

now is it worth the extra money to spend on this tv?? i duno..i bought the w802a for $1414 vs paying only $832 plus a free 3d blu ray for thr 50" r550a..this is tax included thats a difference of almost $600 dollars or around $725 if u add the value of the 3d blu ray and i lose 3" of tv.. im still testing the 802 for a few days more than returning it and retesting the r550a to see if there is a major difference to justify a 700 dollar extra premium..

if anybody else wants to chime in with thoughts that would be great =0

Have you been able to test the black levels in a dark environment on the W802 as compared to a samsung? When you say the wifi signal is very weak does it also have problems in connecting with the router?
How is the overall smart tv experience and does the browser support flash?
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Not sure how to take that, because the R550A can be easily made far far too bright for even MY family room which is very bright morning and mid-day.

What I mean is under almost the same settings the w802 seems to be a bit brighter than the r550a. U can always turn up brightness in any tv but it will look like crap.

 

"Almost the same settings"?  No, that's not how it works from model to model.  And don't extrapolate this upward into talking about turning the brightness up to the point of insanity.  If a TV has good PQ and good PQ control (the 550's control is limited by comparison), then that PQ control will apply (with decreasing effectiveness) at all but stupid levels of luminosity.  The 550 need not go nutty to still be far far too bright.  Brightness is a non issue in that particular 802 vs. 550 comparison.

 

PQ and PQ control in general is: and the 802 overall seems to win over the 550.  Though it seems not everyone is in that same boat.


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ive only been able to test this for a bit but it seems like the w802 has a better picture than the r550a in terms of colors and pop..it seems alil bit brighter as well. it also has alot more options as far as tweaking color settings and motion, while the r550a is limited in picture adjustment.. motion blur/moition flow seems to be a bit better on this set but both were pretty good in my opinion. as far as uniformity the w802 seems to be better..i dont see any flashlighting on this set while there is slight flashlighting on the top right corner of the r550a.. 3D on this tv is really good and pops out nicely.. watched underworld on blu ray and the blacks were pretty black on the movie, tho i wish the top and bottom wide screen bars were a bit darker...off axis viewing is ok..it does start to go greyish/wash out if u move too much off center..i honestly think the r550a has better off axis viewing maybe its just my eyes playing tricks...the menu system is alot faster and more responsive on the w802 than the 550a....tho one gripe i do have is why the built in wifi doesnt support 5Ghz signals?? and can sometimes be very weak..i think sony put in cheap wifi in these sets. i found the samsungs built in wifi alot faster than the sonys..

now is it worth the extra money to spend on this tv?? i duno..i bought the w802a for $1414 vs paying only $832 plus a free 3d blu ray for thr 50" r550a..this is tax included thats a difference of almost $600 dollars or around $725 if u add the value of the 3d blu ray and i lose 3" of tv.. im still testing the 802 for a few days more than returning it and retesting the r550a to see if there is a major difference to justify a 700 dollar extra premium..

if anybody else wants to chime in with thoughts that would be great =0

Have you been able to test the black levels in a dark environment on the W802 as compared to a samsung?

 

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Have you been able to test the black levels in a dark environment on the W802 as compared to a samsung? When you say the wifi signal is very weak does it also have problems in connecting with the router?
How is the overall smart tv experience and does the browser support flash?

i did buy the samsung f7100 and the sammy did have a bit better black lvls and also really black letter boxes due to cinema black option but the picture on the w802 is much more natural and much more accurate and i enjoyed it more..the black lvls on the w802 is not horrible at all they are pretty good as well. the samsungs colors are too over saturated and unreal IMO..

as far as wifi it seems to me at least like its just slow wifi..not sure why it doesnt support dual band either... the smart tv on the w802 is actually pretty good..much more responsive than the r550a and i liked the lay out better on the 802 rather than on the r550a.. if i could have found the w802 cheaper id choose that but getting the r550a for 770 bucks cant pass it up..
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i did buy the samsung f7100 and the sammy did have a bit better black lvls and also really black letter boxes due to cinema black option but the picture on the w802 is much more natural and much more accurate and i enjoyed it more..the black lvls on the w802 is not horrible at all they are pretty good as well. the samsungs colors are too over saturated and unreal IMO..

as far as wifi it seems to me at least like its just slow wifi..not sure why it doesnt support dual band either... the smart tv on the w802 is actually pretty good..much more responsive than the r550a and i liked the lay out better on the 802 rather than on the r550a.. if i could have found the w802 cheaper id choose that but getting the r550a for 770 bucks cant pass it up..

Thank you for your inputs.

Yesterday i did try both the W802 and the W900 i hardly found any colour difference between the 2 except may be red which was slightly better on the 900 other colors may also have been marginally better. It wasn't anything wow. I also found the 3d on W800 more pleasing on the eyes. The 3d on the W900 gave me a slight headache not to mention made my eyes also water after just 5 min of usage. No doubt the image quality was fantastic. If u ask me i would personally go for the W800. No point in paying extra for a 3d set where one can't use the 3d function.wink.gif
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Thank you for your inputs.

Yesterday i did try both the W802 and the W900 i hardly found any colour difference between the 2 except may be red which was slightly better on the 900 other colors may also have been marginally better. It wasn't anything wow. I also found the 3d on W800 more pleasing on the eyes. The 3d on the W900 gave me a slight headache not to mention made my eyes also water after just 5 min of usage. No doubt the image quality was fantastic. If u ask me i would personally go for the W800. No point in paying extra for a 3d set where one can't use the 3d function.wink.gif

Well the 900 has the triluminous display so colors will be a bit better. What I don't like is this is the only tv sony has this year with active 3d. I don't like active 3d as you said they give me head aches very fast where the passive on the other sets don't and does not give me eye strain. Even their 4k TVs have passive 3d. Not sure why sony decided to put active on the 900. If I had the money I'd choose the 802 over the r550a but for now I'ma stick with the r550a
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Well the 900 has the triluminous display so colors will be a bit better. What I don't like is this is the only tv sony has this year with active 3d. I don't like active 3d as you said they give me head aches very fast where the passive on the other sets don't and does not give me eye strain. Even their 4k TVs have passive 3d. Not sure why sony decided to put active on the 900. If I had the money I'd choose the 802 over the r550a but for now I'ma stick with the r550a

Sadly the gimmick of "Full HD 3D" is what made them put it on the w900 mad.gif It is their top end 1080p set of 2013 so it needed top end features, which in my book active 3d is horrible.
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Sadly the gimmick of "Full HD 3D" is what made them put it on the w900 mad.gif It is their top end 1080p set of 2013 so it needed top end features, which in my book active 3d is horrible.

The active 3D on my F8000 is quite good, with no discernible flicker and a bright image. It's generally free of crosstalk, too, but you can still see it every now and again. And of course it can be harder on the eyes after watching a full movie. Passive 3D is one reason why I'm excited for the W802A or a reasonable competitor (the Vizio M501d-A2R is in the running).
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The active 3D on my F8000 is quite good, with no discernible flicker and a bright image. It's generally free of crosstalk, too, but you can still see it every now and again. And of course it can be harder on the eyes after watching a full movie. Passive 3D is one reason why I'm excited for the W802A or a reasonable competitor.

The active 3d on the w900a is excellent, its just that many people including me, can not watch it without getting 3d sickness. I got 3d sickness for 8 hours after watching 30 min of a movie.
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