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Here is a pic if what I am talking about. This looks very blurry on my TV. But anyways, I think I get the point. Thanks for all those who have help and taken pictures for me. I think I will go ahead and return my Sony for this TV. Now, I just have to tell the wife redface.gif


it looks like you're in dynamic mode
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it looks like you're in dynamic mode
I'm not. Standard.
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I'm not. Standard.

standard will still look blurry, try movie mode
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Your calibration doesn't like right to me and if that is the case it will make things go weird everywhere..
I am at our friends house this year for the game and he has a low end 60f6200 and our friend calibrated it and I have to say it looks ready good.
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Here's a pic of half time with my phone but the black levels are nice for a $1100 TV. aza4u8u8.jpg
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How does the native motion resolution in gaming compare to the W9's?. Do they both have the same smooth motion? I'm debatin between these 2 flagships atm :cool:.

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I have the game on movie mode and it looks great!

My camera skills are not that great. But, the picture looks great!


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I have the game on movie mode and it looks great!

My camera skills are not that great. But, the picture looks great!


Are most of the people using movie mode for sports. I thought people would use standard or dynamic mode to add pop to the sporing activities. Especially if your watching the game in a bright room. Wouldn't the picture look washed out or faded in the movie mode in a bright room or during the day in a room with lots of light.
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for me, it is more a personal preference. Movie mode is better for my eyes. The other settings (standard, dynamic, and natural) are too bright for me. The TV looks great in those settings but for me, it is movie mode. My eyes are old . smile.gif

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I have the game on movie mode and it looks great!

My camera skills are not that great. But, the picture looks great!


Is it blurry at all?
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I see no blurry in movie mode. smile.gif

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Is it blurry at all?

I don't think its blurry. The picture would not pop as much in movie mode in a bright room.
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standard will still look blurry, try movie mode

The heck does this even mean? I have my settings calibrated on Movie and Standard, they both look stellar. Standard is and never would be blurrier than Movie with the same settings.

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The heck does this even mean? I have my settings calibrated on Movie and Standard, they both look stellar. Standard is and never would be blurrier than Movie with the same settings.

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The heck does this even mean? I have my settings calibrated on Movie and Standard, they both look stellar. Standard is and never would be blurrier than Movie with the same settings.

What modes are people using to watch satellite/cable tv for movies, sports or documentaries or soap operas for this tv.
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I suspect the blurriness is not due to the tv but from the signal that the cable/sat providers are sending..

I use OTA reception and I get no blurry details in any picture mode.

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What type of antenna are you using
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I suspect the blurriness is not due to the tv but from the signal that the cable/sat providers are sending..

I use OTA reception and I get no blurry details in any picture mode.

Sorry, what type of antenna are you using for you OTA reception
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I suspect the blurriness is not due to the tv but from the signal that the cable/sat providers are sending..

I use OTA reception and I get no blurry details in any picture mode.
I agree because my OTA has the best PQ besides B-ray cable and Sat. at least for me is not even close.
That is one reason I am not thinking about 4k as of now. To me it is disappointing that we can't even get a great 1080p on cable or SAT. Why would I want a great 4k set when we don't even have great 1080p..
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My HDMI black level setting says "This function isn't available" What do I need to change to make this function adjustable. - Thanks, John

When "TV Legal" video level (16-235) YCbCr is received the F8000 defaults to Normal (grayed out) and this is correct. When an RGB signal is received you have the option of HDMI Black Low or Normal. The correct settings are RGB 16-235 Low and RGB 0-255 Normal. If possible, send YCbCr to the F8000 as it eliminates the extra processing created by RGB input as RGB is converted to YCbCr for internal processing and is then converted back to an RGB signal which is sent to the panel.



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I noticed that Post #1 refers to Buzz's settings which link to posts numbers 179, 180, and 219 for Cal Night, Cal Day, and Cal 3D. I have since discovered that Buzz updated some of his settings as outlined in a later post (# 696). Was just wondering if one were to use Buzz's settings for Cal Day and Cal Night, should one use settings in post 179 and 180 or should one use the settings in post 696? Should Post #1 be updated?

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I noticed that Post #1 refers to Buzz's settings which link to posts numbers 179, 180, and 219 for Cal Night, Cal Day, and Cal 3D. I have since discovered that Buzz updated some of his settings as outlined in a later post (# 696). Was just wondering if one were to use Buzz's settings for Cal Day and Cal Night, should one use settings in post 179 and 180 or should one use the settings in post 696? Should Post #1 be updated?

I am not a calibrator but I saw Buzz's settings and I don't understand why he would have the Smart LED set to off. That is local dimming which is why you are paying the extra cash for this Samsung-unxxf8000. It provides deeper blacks. The Cinema black setting dims the upper and lower parts of the screen for movies shot in CinemaScope.

I would recommend Cnet's calibration settings before Buzz's. Buzz ignores the main features that set apart this model from the lower end models that provide a better overall PQ.

If you want to use Buzz's day/night settings use them for his gray-scale settings but turn on Cinema black and set Smart LED to standard for the local dimming.

Presently my F8000 is in storage and I won't have access for a couple of months due to new home construction where it will be wall mounted. Samsung may have fixed the Smart ability since my original testing. At that time, Smart was creating other problems, Gamma among them. If that has been alleviated I'll know when I update the firmware and revisit the display.

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Sorry, what type of antenna are you using for you OTA reception

I use DigiTenna Extreme Fringe with amplifier. Model is DT-XFAMP20-1. I have it in the attic. I get over 100 HD channels although 50% of the available channels are in Spanish so I don't watch those channels... smile.gif

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I use DigiTenna Extreme Fringe with amplifier. Model is DT-XFAMP20-1. I have it in the attic. I get over 100 HD channels although 50% of the available channels are in Spanish so I don't watch those channels... smile.gif

Where, may I ask, do you live
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I will do PM with you. smile.gif

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Presently my F8000 is in storage and I won't have access for a couple of months due to new home construction where it will be wall mounted. Samsung may have fixed the Smart ability since my original testing. At that time, Smart was creating other problems, Gamma among them. If that has been alleviated I'll know when I update the firmware and revisit the display.

Hi Buzz,

i saw your calibration settings on the first page of this topic, are settings changes needed due to recent firmware updates or have these updates by Samsung nothing to do with the picture settings?
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I noticed that Post #1 refers to Buzz's settings which link to posts numbers 179, 180, and 219 for Cal Night, Cal Day, and Cal 3D. I have since discovered that Buzz updated some of his settings as outlined in a later post (# 696). Was just wondering if one were to use Buzz's settings for Cal Day and Cal Night, should one use settings in post 179 and 180 or should one use the settings in post 696? Should Post #1 be updated?

I am not a calibrator but I saw Buzz's settings and I don't understand why he would have the Smart LED set to off. That is local dimming which is why you are paying the extra cash for this Samsung-unxxf8000. It provides deeper blacks. The Cinema black setting dims the upper and lower parts of the screen for movies shot in CinemaScope.

I would recommend Cnet's calibration settings before Buzz's. Buzz ignores the main features that set apart this model from the lower end models that provide a better overall PQ.

If you want to use Buzz's day/night settings use them for his gray-scale settings but turn on Cinema black and set Smart LED to standard for the local dimming.

Found some old screen captures (3/28/2013) that show what happened when enabling Smart - not good! Pre is Smart Off, Post = Smart On





Other stuff relative to your post:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1463286/official-samsung-unxxf8000-owners-thread/150#post_23141661

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Presently my F8000 is in storage and I won't have access for a couple of months due to new home construction where it will be wall mounted. Samsung may have fixed the Smart ability since my original testing. At that time, Smart was creating other problems, Gamma among them. If that has been alleviated I'll know when I update the firmware and revisit the display.

Hi Buzz,

i saw your calibration settings on the first page of this topic, are settings changes needed due to recent firmware updates or have these updates by Samsung nothing to do with the picture settings?

FW can sometimes, but not often, require a new calibration. Regarding my previous post, in a couple months I'll check my original settings to see how they've held up relative to both FW updates and also electronic component aging. If I find that Smart LED is reacting the same way I'll do a complete new calibration with it on and post both the settings and results.

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I agree because my OTA has the best PQ besides B-ray cable and Sat. at least for me is not even close.
That is one reason I am not thinking about 4k as of now. To me it is disappointing that we can't even get a great 1080p on cable or SAT. Why would I want a great 4k set when we don't even have great 1080p..

You do realize that you are not getting 1080p from your antenna either don't you? TV OTA is 480i/480p,720p or 1080i same thing the cable/SAT company send to you although they do reduce some of the data that makes up the picture through compression using the mpeg2 standard.
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Hi Guys,

Hello from The Netherlands wink.gif

My UE55F8000 (european model) is coming in in a few days.

What about the CAL-NIGHT / CAL-DAY settings, is it automaticly switching to each setting during day or night?
Or do I have to switch them manual?

Greetings, Hemertje

Unfortunately there is no CAL-NIGHT / DAY setting on any European Samsung TV. I use movie mode and the ECO setting. Backlight on 13 and minimum of 8 in the ECO setting.
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Great!

Looking forward to seeing the similarities and differences.

I have been very happy with Buzz settings from the first page of this thread. smile.gif

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