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post #7741 of 7849 Old 10-22-2014, 09:38 PM
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Guys I need ur advice . I'm interested to buy the F8000 model because I hate that bloody curved stylin & I've seen a used item online for £800. Should I spend that amount on a used tv?. Richer sounds also has 1 for £900 but it has no accessories!. It has a 5 year guarantee though.

And whats the input lag like, Is it double that of the latest curved model?. Any advice would be very helpful because I really want this tv for gaming but I'm scared to pay for a used tv. The PQ & sound is supposed be great apparently.

Game Mode on this TV is excellent. Lag is minimal; just be sure to bypass an AVR and connect your game box directly to the TV

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What does firmware 1203 add?

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Set has been great. Just updated the firmware to version 1203 today. It didn't auto update for some reason, I had to to it manually.

I just got this too, and like you, it did not auto-update.


Does anyone know 1203 adds/fixes? I can't tell.

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Game Mode on this TV is excellent. Lag is minimal; just be sure to bypass an AVR and connect your game box directly to the TV
wts an AVR exactly?. I've just returned the Samsung 6400 because the PQ didnt look truly 'HD' to me, it looked average. Thats y I'm apprehensive because its the same brand but this 1s high end so should be quality. I heard it has a stunning picture like the W9
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wts an AVR exactly?. I've just returned the Samsung 6400 because the PQ didnt look truly 'HD' to me, it looked average. Thats y I'm apprehensive because its the same brand but this 1s high end so should be quality. I heard it has a stunning picture like the W9
The 6400 you returned more than likely had a non - Sammy panel in it. The 8000 will blow it away.

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Sorry, dude. I didn't figure out a way. I gave up on Marantz HDMI ARC. That does mean I have lost getting the app audio going through the speakers.


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1) Skype on this TV doesn't work with ARC even if you have set up. It always defaults to the TV speakers anyway.


2) Most of what you see on Youtube is not 5.1 anyway, so the TV speakers are fine for that.


3) The TV's speakers are actually pretty good.


4) If you use Airplay and an iPhone with the Marantz, or the Marantz internet radio, you don't need any music apps from the TV.


5) The only thing you are really missing I guess is streaming movies from the TV's apps. But cable boxes, BD players, and game consoles all have these apps now also. Just use those. I do.


Hope that helps. Does seem like receivers are a little wonky on ARC. Hmmm.
Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll just deal with it. A firmware update could so easily fix this problem I really wish they would take care of it.

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The 6400 you returned more than likely had a non - Sammy panel in it. The 8000 will blow it away.

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Seriously? Bastards!.No wonder the ps4 looked average on it. How can u tell if a tv has the right panel?. It was from pixmania, I couldn't return it & eventually had to sell it for a £300 loss. Didn't even support freeview hd in uk.

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Question for owners in this thread, that might have an idea about this...currently i own a UN75H7150 in my living room, and a UN65HU9000 in the bedroom! I have a chance to get a brand new 75" F8000 for $2700 today only! It's the tv i always wanted to get, but i couldn't get one locally, hate buying TV's online! It's a local sale, and TV is brand new in the box as well.

Now i won't be able to exchange this set, because it's the last one seller has! I had to exchange my UN7150 four times before i was kind of okay with keeping it, and UN9000 was perfect out of the box 1st time, only wish it was 10" bigger! I am not looking for perfection, but don't know if the set is gonna have flashlighting/clouding or maybe even a dead pixel/pixels? I can't return the TV either.

What would you do if you were me???
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If the seller isn't an authorized retailer, I wouldn't do it. If the tv goes out in 2 weeks, Samsung probably won't warranty it if not sold by an authorized retailer.
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H9000 , I would not even have to think about it.

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Thanks for the advice Steve, i decided to not get it! I totally forgot about "authorized seller" part!
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wts an AVR exactly?. I've just returned the Samsung 6400 because the PQ didnt look truly 'HD' to me, it looked average. Thats y I'm apprehensive because its the same brand but this 1s high end so should be quality. I heard it has a stunning picture like the W9

AVR = audio/video receiver


What I would do is connect your game console's HDMI to the TV, and the game console's digital optical to and AVR. If you run the HDMI to your AVR, you might get input lag. This is what I do.


If you do that, and turn on Game Mode in this TV, that's a great set-up for twitch games like COD.

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Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll just deal with it. A firmware update could so easily fix this problem I really wish they would take care of it.

They just updated the firmware for this TV to 1203. Maybe that fixes it. Try it and tell me; maybe you'll luck out.


CEC and ARC are still too new as technologies I think. Devices don't handshake so well yet with them. Give it a few years I guess...

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measured 1.5" between the table and the tv. It will be pretty tight for your 1.5" router. The back is black plastic, not metal.
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AVR = audio/video receiver


What I would do is connect your game console's HDMI to the TV, and the game console's digital optical to and AVR. If you run the HDMI to your AVR, you might get input lag. This is what I do.


If you do that, and turn on Game Mode in this TV, that's a great set-up for twitch games like COD.
As long as the AVR isn't doing any image enhancement or upscaling it won't introduce any input lag.

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Where can I get the F8000 from 'caus the market keeps changing. 1 day its in stock the next it isn't. The H8000 would be perfect if it didnt have that stupid curved design. I'm tryna get the F8 with a gd warranty but its like finding a needle in a haystack.
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Where can I get the F8000 from 'caus the market keeps changing. 1 day its in stock the next it isn't. The H8000 would be perfect if it didnt have that stupid curved design. I'm tryna get the F8 with a gd warranty but its like finding a needle in a haystack.
I got mine (last week) at The High Definition Store. It's an authorized retailer and they still had a few in stock. I'd email them and see if they have the size you want. Good luck!
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I got mine (last week) at The High Definition Store. It's an authorized retailer and they still had a few in stock. I'd email them and see if they have the size you want. Good luck!
Was it in clearence?. Most I see now are used 'caus its a discontinued item. I just want 1 with a gd warranty really. Richer sounds have them with a 5 yr warranty but no delivery. I ain't carryin a 46' tv from Staffordshire to Lancashire!.
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I got mine (last week) at The High Definition Store. It's an authorized retailer and they still had a few in stock. I'd email them and see if they have the size you want. Good luck!
Was it in clearence?. Most I see now are used 'caus its a discontinued item. I just want 1 with a gd warranty really. Richer sounds have them with a 5 yr warranty but no delivery. I ain't carryin a 46' tv from Staffordshire to Lancashire!.
It's a new one, but I couldn't find it without emailing their contact us link.

Also, I got a SquareTrade warranty from Costco to cover me for 5 years, since I got it from an authorized retailer.
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It's a new one, but I couldn't find it without emailing their contact us link.

Also, I got a SquareTrade warranty from Costco to cover me for 5 years, since I got it from an authorized retailer.
Pretty expensive buyin the warranty on top. I'm scared of buyin used tbh but thyre like 400 cheaper. Its annoyin that the H8000 is the same tv but ****in curved!. That design kills it for me, thts y I really want the F8.
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Pretty expensive buyin the warranty on top. I'm scared of buyin used tbh but thyre like 400 cheaper. Its annoyin that the H8000 is the same tv but ****in curved!. That design kills it for me, thts y I really want the F8.
The warranty's not that expensive at Costco; much cheaper than most other retailers. Well worth it if you have a failure. I don't know how common they are, but to me it's worth the piece of mind, especially because the TV is last year's model.
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What is the equivalent/feature comparable 2014 model to the UN55F8000? Samsung's site is totally confusing to me with all the models. Don't want curved and don't care about UHD.
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What is the equivalent/feature comparable 2014 model to the UN55F8000? Samsung's site is totally confusing to me with all the models. Don't want curved and don't care about UHD.
It's probably the H7150. From what I've read they're pretty much the same panel.
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I just posted in the smart hub fiasco thread, and I don't mean to spam, but can anyone that owns this TV get Dolby Digital 5.1 through smart hub apps like Netflix or is it an F8000 related issue that I can't? Don't know if my tv is defective or something... The same Netflix content that plays 5.1 fine from other sources' Netflix app (like my BR player) only shows Stereo 2.0 on the TV's app when you click the info button on the TV remote. This would indicate that Netflix (or the app, rather) is not receiving the 5.1 signal, right?

I just bought this tv and my previous model Samsung (ES7100) had no problem getting 5.1 from Netflix, and the TV's were set up in the same exact way. I'm just not sure why this model can't. Anyone have any insight?

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I just posted in the smart hub fiasco thread, and I don't mean to spam, but can anyone that owns this TV get Dolby Digital 5.1 through smart hub apps like Netflix or is it an F8000 related issue that I can't? Don't know if my tv is defective or something... The same Netflix content that plays 5.1 fine from other sources' Netflix app (like my BR player) only shows Stereo 2.0 on the TV's app when you click the info button on the TV remote. This would indicate that Netflix (or the app, rather) is not receiving the 5.1 signal, right?

I just bought this tv and my previous model Samsung (ES7100) had no problem getting 5.1 from Netflix, and the TV's were set up in the same exact way. I'm just not sure why this model can't. Anyone have any insight?
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This is not obvious, but I have the same set-up you do (F8000 and Marantz 1504). To get ARC to work, you need to turn on HDMI-CEC in both the Marantz and the TV. Then connect HDMI 3 on the TV to Monitor out on the Marantz. Then switch the Marantz to the TV audio channel. Then the TV will show you a 'Receiver' choice. You do NOT want to choose 'External Speakers' for ARC. That is what you choose if you don't if you send the A/V signal into a receiver first, which then passes the video only onto the TV.


If this doesn't work, send me a PM. I can help you.


Also, a lot of the stuff that comes through the Samsung apps, like YouTube, isn't 5.1 either. I tried too.


Finally, the big downer about ARC is that every time you turn on the TV, the Marantz will auto-switch to TV audio. So if you have a game console or BD player connected to the Marantz, you will have to manually switch it every time. This is why I actually stopped using ARC after a few months. I have found no way to get the Marantz to stop defaulting like that.
Wow, no, that's not obvious at all. Thank you so much for the settings, I tried them and they worked! I was impressed it worked at all but disappointed in the execution. Like the previous poster above me and others, I can't get a 5.1 signal out of anything playing from the native apps. It would be great if I could get this to work as HBO Go isn't supported by Comcast (I hate that company so very much) on any STB, but it is on the Sammy. I'd also like to use the internal smart TV apps "just because" and I'm interested in the technology. As it stands I use my Fire TV for everything, and the Sammy for Youtube and HBO Go.

I will say that with the proper Harmony remote setup (I have the Smart Home kit which is amazing and simple in every conceivable way), using the TV's internal apps with the TV speakers actually isn't bad. The speakers on my X9 were mind blowing and nothing will compare to them but the speakers on this set actually surprised me. I expected absolute garbage and I feel they are quite good for casual viewing. Youtube, of course, it no problem (who cares about 5.1?), and HBO Go is still a good experience. All in all, I'm quite pleased the the lack of ARC isn't terribly detrimental.

I want to go on record again as saying how absolutely shocked I am at how good the "standard" AMP setting is. I know many of us don't want any processing (myself included) when watching films, but the preservation of 24FPS, 0 blurring and super smooth console gaming feels like the perfect fit. I don't notice much of the SOE during film, to me it just looks like a a really high quality/high resolution picture. It looks the way I've always wanted films to look. Compared with the processing of other TVs I've had and demoed, this this is by far the best. Engaging "smooth" however brings the SOE into full blown "General Hospital" mode.

I would really encourage anyone who hasn't already done so to try AMP on "standard" with a variety of source material. It make seem a little less than purist quality at first, but my bet is that you'll learn to appreciate the benefits. For gaming, it's invaluable and fantastic provided you can deal with the input lag which all but the most competitive gamers won't notice.

There's only 2 things I would change about this TV. 1- I wish a 70" model had been offered as that would be just about perfect for my seating distance (9.5 feet). Despite that, I could have purchased the 75" model but couldn't part with that much cash for a TV, even on clearance. I also had some concerns about panel uniformity and defects at 75". Of course, that might just be an excuse. If I were doing it over again I would probably pony up the cash for the 75.
2- The colors don't pop quite as much as some other top tier TV's I've seen, specifically the Trilumious Sony displays. They appear to be incredibly natural, and calibration results show their near perfection, but I'd like the ability to give them an extra "oomph. I supposed "standard" mode will accomplish this, but I'm not about to change from the perfection that is "movie" mode!

This really is a remarkable set and for the price it can now be purchased at, I can't imagine anyone going wrong. There is no TV on the market I'd rather have and I've never been able to say that in the past.
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Sorry for the double post, but I needed to ask about the Costco Squaretrade warranty. I was told by a clerk that they won't sell the warranty to you unless the TV was purchased there. That's not what this forum indicates. I would be thrilled to get a 3 year warranty for $99. On ST's website it goes for $219, which is plenty reasonable but I'd rather pay half if it really is possible to do so. Any thoughts?

As for the poster who was asking about this years equivalent 1080p Samsung flat screen, it is indeed the 7150. I had one for 2 weeks and found it to be almost identical to the F8000. The difference is mainly in the LED local dimming (US models). The processor has been updated in the 7 series and it's now 4 core, plus the Smart features are the same and the remote is actually far better, it's similar to a Wii remote or LG set. I posted a lengthy review of both TV's 2 pages back if you want all the details but here's the summary:

1- PQ isn't noticeably different between the two except the 7150 lacks true local dimming which is only noticeable in a very dark room when the content is trying to show true black. It looks quite grey and it bothered me. For most viewers I don't think it will be a problem unless coming from a plasma.
2- The remote is better on the 7150
3- I don't care for the stand as much as the F8000, it's a bit garish
4- No evolution kit compatibility but who cares? The only place to go from here is 4k which that won't solve.

The BIG difference is panel consistency. Clouding and flashlighting on the 7150 can be pretty bad depending on which lottery ticket you got. I was able to massage away ALL of the clouding but the lower left had moderate to sever flashlighting which was very distracting.

If I were buying a 2014 1080p TV, it would be a toss up between the 7150 and the Sony W850. I would also consider a Sharp and give a little in PQ to get more screen real estate. That being said, I *did* just go through this exercise and landed on the 7150 (before it was returned). I personally think the 7150 is the best Full HD you can buy in 2014. The value proposition is higher than the F8000 MSRP and it retains every benefit aside from the true local dimming which is either a non issue for you or a major one. I think the 7150 is a stellar TV. Just be prepared to massage out the clouding and deal with the flashlighting or return the sets until you get one you can live with. It's truly a shame about the panel issues. A consumer shouldn't have to pay more for quality control. If it weren't for that, I'd still have it and be thrilled. The F8000 is better overall, but you're going to need to order it online and hope for the best.

I bought my 65" new, from Ritz camera (authorized reseller) on Ebay. No tax, no delivery for $2250. I got very lucky, the TV has no imperfections at all. If it did, sending it back to NYC from Silicon Valley would have been a major hassle. Absolutely get the 7150 if a 2014 tv and/or buying from a local retailer is important to you. Also be aware that it can be found for $1799 online which Best Buy will price match (Paul's TV). Just manage expectations that you may have to go through a few panels to find a good one and try not to be too picky

Oh yeah, 3D is among the best I've seen on both TV's. Incredible. I like Active 3D because the PQ is massively better but am sensitive to flicker. The Samsung glasses do NOT flicker. At all. Even with ambient light in the room. It's remarkable.
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Sorry for the double post, but I needed to ask about the Costco Squaretrade warranty. I was told by a clerk that they won't sell the warranty to you unless the TV was purchased there. That's not what this forum indicates. I would be thrilled to get a 3 year warranty for $99. On ST's website it goes for $219, which is plenty reasonable but I'd rather pay half if it really is possible to do so. Any thoughts?
That clerk was misinformed.

http://www.costco.com/.product.11680336.html

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I just purchased this F8000 75 inch in Canada, from a large home audio furniture store,
They had 4 left in their massive warehouse.
Paid a bit more than your crazy good deals in the US but very happy with price, considering was much more last spring, got it for a tad over 4 K. plus friggen tax brings it close to 5 K.
Samsung has rebated them, also seen a whole bunch of 6000 series 75 inch at Costco here for 2800.00 (Just in, not there this past week-end)
All geared up for Xmas sales I guess.
And some older Sony W's forget which model 70", usually Costcos are all 2 years old or so.

So happy paying a tad more for the F8000, before I cannot find one!! wondering if it will end up in Costco in a yearor later too.
Will try to get the extra guarantee thing though Costco, (square trade thing) not sure if it works in Canada.
Have a extra year of Guarantee cause I bougnt in full with my Credit Card.

Upgrading from the older 61" HL61A750 DLP LED one got for 1400 about 6 years ago, loved it, It still works fine, had to clean out 1 fan once and that was it, but will go into basement as gaming / PS3, ect
and old 46 inch LCD Sammy into bedroom. (still works fine too 4000 series almost 10 years old now)

Bought a good wall rack just wondering in instructions booklet says can wall mount 65" model
Is there any problem wall mounting these 75 inch ones?

I think I read some of you have wall mounted them, Will go back and read further back in the thread, about settings and such too.

Hope all goes well with mine, not plugged in yet.

Will post a picture when all set up on wall, I hope!!
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Congrats on the new tv! You will enjoy!

Samsung UN75F8000 LED TV, NAD T-777 (7.2 Receiver), Oppo 103, Sony PS4, Panamax MR-5100, 7 Paradigm Reference series 8" in ceiling speakers (AMS-150R) - 30 degree tilting speakers, 2 Paradigm SE Sub, universal remote MX-450, universal advanced RF base station MRF-3501. Pics here.
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