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post #7831 of 7846 Old 11-13-2014, 01:12 PM
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I am curious about the different panel versions as well. I just got mine 2 weeks ago and it is version TS02.
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Hi guys just bought a 65F8000 and the panel version says VS03 with a manufacturing date of March 2014. Anybody have insight to what this panel is? At F8000 premium level i'm assuming its a samsung panel too.
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I am curious about the different panel versions as well. I just got mine 2 weeks ago and it is version TS02.
http://nxsfan.co.uk/mediawiki/index.php/Samsung_Panels

Looks like the TSXX is a Samsung panel, but it doesn't say anything about a VSXX.
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Our UN55F8000 recently updated the Smart Hub. The following day, when we turn on the TV, after 30 seconds or so, it powers off. Disconnected it from the UPS and plugged it directly into the wall, but no luck. While turned on, unplugged it for 2 minutes, plugged it back in and everything worked fine for the night. Tonight, we powered on the TV, same thing but is not responded to leaving it unplugged for a few minutes. Did a Factory reset, cant keep the Tv on long enough to run through the settings.

Called tech support and it could be up to next Friday before we have someone out to service the TV.
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Our UN55F8000 recently updated the Smart Hub. The following day, when we turn on the TV, after 30 seconds or so, it powers off. Disconnected it from the UPS and plugged it directly into the wall, but no luck. While turned on, unplugged it for 2 minutes, plugged it back in and everything worked fine for the night. Tonight, we powered on the TV, same thing but is not responded to leaving it unplugged for a few minutes. Did a Factory reset, cant keep the Tv on long enough to run through the settings.

Called tech support and it could be up to next Friday before we have someone out to service the TV.
How did you get the update , and I didn`t

I got the message one was coming , then after the 13th the message now longer showed up.

I took pic`s of the message and alert and e-mailed them to Samsung , but they never replied , called them... but nobody knew noth`n , so like Samsung support.

I had to have mine serviced too , main board , good luck.
Actually it must have had a bad main board from the factory , I`m think`n cold solder join , wave solder machines muck up every now and then.

God , forbid they should actually do it the right way , and hand build the boards , of course then the cost would be twice as much. ___O__well

Later , I guess there was a terminal bug in the new software that fried your set , that must be why if we want the new SH we have to pay and buy the Evo kit.

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I returned two Vizios recently because of vertical banding, but going back to my F8000 I noticed something I've never seen before: blacks smearing/bleeding brown when moving the camera during games. I wonder if this is something I just got used to and am now noticing because the Vizio Ps never did that. The Samsung H7150 that has to go back because of flashlighting exhibits the same thing. Am I going crazy?
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I returned two Vizios recently because of vertical banding, but going back to my F8000 I noticed something I've never seen before: blacks smearing/bleeding brown when moving the camera during games. I wonder if this is something I just got used to and am now noticing because the Vizio Ps never did that. The Samsung H7150 that has to go back because of flashlighting exhibits the same thing. Am I going crazy?
Blacks smearing red/brown behind smoothly moving dark (black) objects is normal for a VA type panel. Having seen my friend's 6 year old Samsung FALD, the F8000 doesn't smear nearly as much. It's especially noticeable in 60fps PC games during darker game areas. Keeping dynamic contrast off and dark tone off that may exaggerate and crush things to black will reduce it's occurrence as well as improving PQ altogether just in case you're using those things. Also sitting a foot or two further back will make dark motion smear less noticeable as well. Turn off anti-judder too if you have that on when gaming. I noticed this at first but over time I don't notice it almost at all now. Perhaps firmware updates have improved it too.

Also, I ordered a 51" F8500 plasma a couple days ago to be my TV whilst I'm at university. I've been without a state of the art TV for a few months now because I had to leave my F8000 at home and the F8500 was so cheap I couldn't pass it up. Especially since plasma will be no more in a week or two. I was also able to get a 5 year ST warranty for very inexpensive. I've never owned a plasma or even seen a plasma in ideal dark room conditions but from what I've been reading it should really knock my socks off and be a great addition to my "collection" of sets. That collection of course only consisting of the 55" F8000 and 51" F8500. I don't plan on getting another set anytime soon but both sets are pinnacles of their respective technologies so it will be cool to have a flagship LED, flagship plasma, and eventually a flagship OLED from Samsung in a few years from now.
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This is another sad example of the very poor quality control ( if any ).

Not just on Samsung products , but on electronics in general.

Companies don`t care anymore about keeping a loyal customer , they just want the money today , because another recession could happen tomorrow.

The new { old } motto out there is take the money , run fast , and hope it does not break for 12 months.

People working for peanuts and they don`t give a $h!t , plain and simple.

Happy Holidays

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I wouldn't let it bother you. The remaining amount of f8000s in inventory circulating is probably very low, so if you exchange and get one with a visible issue, you would have to return again - by that time, you may not be able to find one any longer.
SteveCallas, you are right. I'm not going to let it bother me. I cannotreturn it even if I wanted to since I bought it from one of the discountinternet retailers. Unfortunately I found another issue. This weekend whilewatching some football, I saw what appeared to be a spec dust/hair in the upperleft corner of the TV! I randomly noticed it while sitting on my couch,thinking it was a spec of dust on the panel. It only appears on total white images.It's actually less noticeable when you get closer, within inches. However, myviewing distance is about 10' and I can see it! It's not noticeable all of thetime, only on white images. There are also other minor imperfections withpossible dust in the panel. These are not noticeable at my viewing distance,only visible inches away. I must be the unluckiest person in the world when itcomes to screen defects in LCD TVs! Out of the 7000 plus posts on this forum,there have only been less than 10 posts that I can find about some sort ofscreen defect. I did call Samsung and they stated that depending on theseverity, they would possibly replace the panel. Maybe a good spray ofcompressed are will do the trick? Of course they would send a technician out tosee what action can be taken. At this point, I am unsure what to do? I knowthat this bothers me, but if they were to replace the panel, I am sure moredust will get behind the panel on install, since my house is not a clean environmentas where the TV was assembled. There are also additional issues with a newpanel having vertical banding issues, clouding etc. I currently have none ofthese problems. I guess I'll just have to live with it until the TV dies and Ipurchase an OLED. As long as I'm not staring at the spot, I will not see thedefect. Oh well.

On a separate note, my panel version is VS03. The TV was manufactured inApril 14. Does anyone have any essay on if this is a Samsung panel? Any essayat all on what any of the version numbers mean? From what I read in a differentforum, it appears all others are manufactured by outside companies and the VS03panel is indeed manufactured by Samsung. Thank you all for continuing to postinformation!
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Out of curiosity, I checked samsungparts.com to see if I could make sense of the various panels being used in the F8000 series and noticed the differences in panel prices with the 55" and 65" models while the 60" and 75" panels are the same price. Not sure what to make of it, but thought it was interesting nonetheless.

UN46F8000
TS01 = $836.60

UN55F8000
TS01 = $1124.18
US02 = $1210.00

UN60F8000
TH02 = $1550.00
TS01 = $1550.00

UN65F8000
TS01 = $1650.00
US02 = $1720.00
VS03 = $1385.00

UN75F8000
TS01 = $2495.00
US02 = $2495.00
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75 f8000 vs 75 h7150 are the blacks that much better on the f8000
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I have an UN75F8000 and have the opportunity to buy the UN75HU8550 for $1k more than what I paid for the F8000. What do you guys think? Should I do it?
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75 f8000 vs 75 h7150 are the blacks that much better on the f8000
According to HDTV test, the native black level on the H7150 is a tiny bit better however the F8000 beats the H7150 in dark scene blacks because the F8000 has true local dimming and the H7150 does not. So scenes with large amounts of black or dark areas on screen, the F8000 will have superior contrast. The PQ is very similar but I would still recommend the F8000 for its true local dimming.

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I have an UN75F8000 and have the opportunity to buy the UN75HU8550 for $1k more than what I paid for the F8000. What do you guys think? Should I do it?
The HU8550 is basically the 4K version of the F8000. Both are flat and both sport true local dimming systems for better overall contrast, especially in dark scenes. Both TV's are phenomenal in terms of PQ and are very similar. The HU8550 likely has slightly better picture processing and also more dimming zones than the F8000. The main difference is 4K and the updated Smart TV platform. You just have to ask yourself if the 4K support and new Smart TV platform is worth the extra grand.


Hope this helps you guys. I've owned the 55" F8000 since July of 2013 and still get wow'ed by its picture each and every time I turn it on. It's truly a phenomenal set.
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The HU8550 is basically the 4K version of the F8000. Both are flat and both sport true local dimming systems for better overall contrast, especially in dark scenes. Both TV's are phenomenal in terms of PQ and are very similar. The HU8550 likely has slightly better picture processing and also more dimming zones than the F8000. The main difference is 4K and the updated Smart TV platform. You just have to ask yourself if the 4K support and new Smart TV platform is worth the extra grand.


Hope this helps you guys. I've owned the 55" F8000 since July of 2013 and still get wow'ed by its picture each and every time I turn it on. It's truly a phenomenal set.
That does help but a few things I have questions about:

1) Isn't the HU8550 a 120hz tv? Doesn't that mean the motion on the F8000 is better?
2) Is there any way to upgrade the F8000 to have the FOUR way split screen? The split screen on the F8000 is useless since one of the inputs HAS to be the antenna/cable input and cannot do two HDMI inputs side by side.
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That does help but a few things I have questions about:

1) Isn't the HU8550 a 120hz tv? Doesn't that mean the motion on the F8000 is better?
2) Is there any way to upgrade the F8000 to have the FOUR way split screen? The split screen on the F8000 is useless since one of the inputs HAS to be the antenna/cable input and cannot do two HDMI inputs side by side.
1. The refresh rate past 120hz has little impact on the motion handling of the set. Sony and presumably Samsung dropped 240hz support because their engineers found no discernible difference in motion between 120hz and 240hz. Samsung and Sony have instead focused on more advanced backlight scanning and frame "predicting" algorithms to further improve the motion, so I would say the motion should be slightly better on the HU8550. But I'm sure reviewers with equipment to measure motion performance can offer a more definitive answer.


2. I believe that the 4 way split screen is a 4K exclusive feature. So as the F8000 is 1080p, it probably does not support the split screen even with the EVO kit. I believe there is a forum of F8000 owners with the EVO kit, maybe your question has been answered there.


At 75" and if you plan on not upgrading for many years to come, I think stepping up to the HU8550 is a wise investment.
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I recently noticed my F8000 lost its ability to Apply Picture Mode to Current Source with Cal Day and Cal Night.

I initially called Samsung who sent an engineer out to replace the mother board. However, with this installed and firmware updated the problem remained. That's when it occurred to me that the problem was caused by the firmware.

Since I am a certified professional calibrator I have since been able to verify this fault on a number of other F and H series Samsungs. However Samsung have been claiming my warranty is void because I went in to the Service Menu regardless of my profession. The tech also took the new mobo away since it wasn't the problem.

Has anybody else encountered this glitch?
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