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Is that a 75" F8000?

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First cut at settings for my 75", using CalMAN 4+ColorMunki+CalPC. Your mileage will vary.

Picture Mode: Movie
Backlight: 11
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 45
Color: 48
Tint: 50/50
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Black Tone: Off
Flesh Tone: 0
Gamma: -2
Color Space: Custom
Red: Red: 48 Green: 0 Blue: 0
Green: Red: 22 Green: 52 Blue: 0
Blue: Red: 0 Green: 14 Blue: 47
Yellow: Red: 55 Green: 53 Blue: 0
Cyan: Red: 8 Green: 55 Blue: 53
Magenta: Red: 46 Green: 17 Blue: 50
R-Offset: 25
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 24
R-Gain: 29
G-Gain: 28
B-Gain: 18
10p White Balance: On
Interval 1: Red: -9, Green: -9, Blue: -10
Interval 2: Red: -8, Green: -9, Blue: -8
Interval 3: Red: -3, Green: -3, Blue: -2
Interval 4: Red: -1, Green: -2, Blue: -2
Interval 5: Red: 0, Green: 1, Blue: -1
Interval 6: Red: 0, Green: 1, Blue: 0
Interval 7: Red: 0, Green: 1, Blue: 0
Interval 8: Red: 0, Green: 1, Blue: 0
Interval 9: Red: 0, Green: 0, Blue: 0
Interval 10: Red: 0, Green: 0, Blue: 0
Color Tone: Warm2
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These settings look great on my ES9000, albeit with gamma set to -1 instead

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So far I love my new F8000 however I'm not too happy with the "universal remote" features. I'm using Direct TV for my channel viewing and I've set up the IR blaster and universal features to change channels etc. which works fine. However can someone tell me how to access the Direct TV guide from the Smart Touch remote? As my Direct TV STB does not have RVU (not a Genie) I can not use the internal Samsung Guide features. I've pretty much confirmed all of this with Samsung- THERE IS NO WAY TO VIEW THE DIRECT TV GUIDE THROUGH THE SMART TOUCH REMOTE! How is this a universal remote then? How am I expected to view and change channels other than with voice and manual input? This is ridiculous. Someone please tell me I'm missing something here??? mad.gif

Use MORE swipe left look for STB Guide.

The DirecTV should have been set up in System > Device Manager > Universal Remote Setup.
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Thinking of pulling the trigger on 60F8000 after not being able to stand the intense flash-lighting on the 60ES8000 and returning it. A couple things make me hesitant though. Hoping that RMSko and any others that specifically have the 60" can tell me if the flash-lighting is bearable in a dark room on letterbox content. I'm ok with using cinema black to achieve this.

The other thing that concerns me is eagle_2's pink issue with calibration screens and AMP custom still juddering. I never saw if you fixed the pink while still getting decent contrast. eagle_2 as far as the AMP i was wondering if you could do me a favor and turn film mode to auto2, blur to 5, judder to 0, and led clear motion off, watch a 24p bluray and let me know of it still skips. Would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance. smile.gif
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Seeing the prices drop, makes me want to go out and buy the 60" ...I'm 14 feet away, I wonder is that 5" really going to make that much of a difference?
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Just took delivery on a 75". More later.

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Is that a 75" F8000?

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Yep.

Thoth, where did you buy the UN75F8000?
Samsung's site shows it as not available yet.

Are you sure you don't have a UN75F6400 ?
Or the UN75ES9000 ?

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Seeing the prices drop, makes me want to go out and buy the 60" ...I'm 14 feet away, I wonder is that 5" really going to make that much of a difference?

The $800 price drop is very cool,plus the Free bonus TV or home audio product at no extra charge. Thru 6/15/13 only! .... Click on details Button. http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN60F8000BFXZA

Going from a 55" to a 60" at a seating distance of 14'... BB says 60" 7.5' – 15.0' (2.3 m – 4.6 m) and 55" 6.8' – 12.8' (2.1 m – 3.9 m)...

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Thinking of pulling the trigger on 60F8000 after not being able to stand the intense flash-lighting on the 60ES8000 and returning it. A couple things make me hesitant though. Hoping that RMSko and any others that specifically have the 60" can tell me if the flash-lighting is bearable in a dark room on letterbox content. I'm ok with using cinema black to achieve this.

The other thing that concerns me is eagle_2's pink issue with calibration screens and AMP custom still juddering. I never saw if you fixed the pink while still getting decent contrast. eagle_2 as far as the AMP i was wondering if you could do me a favor and turn film mode to auto2, blur to 5, judder to 0, and led clear motion off, watch a 24p bluray and let me know of it still skips. Would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance. smile.gif
I have the 60. With cb on there is no flashlighting whatsoever. With it off and smart led and dynamic contrast on it is barely noticeable. Most people don't like dc contrast but I find that on low it does a good job. I'm in a basement with no windows by the way.
Also with amp on clear I have 0 stuttering, and I don't see any soe.
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Thoth, where did you buy the UN75F8000?
Samsung's site shows it as not available yet.

Are you sure you don't have a UN75F6400 ?
Or the UN75ES9000 ?

Sears says it is available here in Tucson,Az(UN75F8000)... Click on Availability Button and insert your Zip Code... Sears offers Price Match and some Free Special Offers with purchase.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771483000P?srccode=cii_9324560&cpncode=32-240886565-2&sid=IDx20070921x00003j

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I have the 60. With cb on there is no flashlighting whatsoever. With it off and smart led and dynamic contrast on it is barely noticeable. Most people don't like dc contrast but I find that on low it does a good job. I'm in a basement with no windows by the way.
Also with amp on clear I have 0 stuttering, and I don't see any soe.

Thank you so much keeso! That is what I needed to hear! Now I just need BB to price match down to at least $2600 and I'm golden smile.gif
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Re: the 75" Amazin had the F8000 in stock at one point recently Not sure if still there.

Guys sorry to pollute your thread as a 75F6400 owner (which I love), but there is a lot more traffic here. Question about the HDMI Black Level setting. It seems like most here and once calibrated use Low, which I do too. Normal looks very washed out. My question is...why? What is this setting exactly? I ask mostly bc for the most part I leave "enhancements" Off or Normal. But this is a case where Normal is visibly obviously not the correct setting.

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Re: the 75" Amazin had the F8000 in stock at one point recently Not sure if still there.

Guys sorry to pollute your thread as a 75F6400 owner (which I love), but there is a lot more traffic here. Question about the HDMI Black Level setting. It seems like most here and once calibrated use Low, which I do too. Normal looks very washed out. My question is...why? What is this setting exactly? I ask mostly bc for the most part I leave "enhancements" Off or Normal. But this is a case where Normal is visibly obviously not the correct setting.

If the display is being sent YCbCr you will see Normal and it will be grayed out. If you are sending RGB you get a choice of Low or Normal. Low is for PC level (0-255) signals and Normal is for Video level (16-235). If Video level and you select Low, the near black (dark gray) will be crushed into black and you will not see content that was meant to be seen.
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If the display is being sent YCbCr you will see Normal and it will be grayed out. If you are sending RGB you get a choice of Low or Normal. Low is for PC level (0-255) signals and Normal is for Video level (16-235). If Video level and you select Low, the near black (dark gray) will be crushed into black and you will not see content that was meant to be seen.

Huh. Thanks Buzz. I have 3 sources all routed through my receiver before going to the TV. Normal was greyed out when using an AppleTV as the source. But PS3 and cable (Cablevision) allow the choice. Using WOW it appears that black (brightness) is set okay so I'm not sure what conclusion to draw. Normal really does look washed out for both cable and ps3.

Funny enough though, and not sure if it is related, Contrast cannot be set high enough to clip whites. I have it set to 90 but even at 100 it doesn't over do it, except for my retinas which sear at 100!

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Huh. Thanks Buzz. I have 3 sources all routed through my receiver before going to the TV. Normal was greyed out when using an AppleTV as the source. But PS3 and cable (Cablevision) allow the choice. Using WOW it appears that black (brightness) is set okay so I'm not sure what conclusion to draw. Normal really does look washed out for both cable and ps3.

You have a menu choice for PS3 output and most cable boxes do as well. For cable boxes there is usually a remote control or box key combination that will open up a menu - google it for your box and then fnd out what is going on - sounds like it is sending RGB.

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Thank you so much keeso! That is what I needed to hear! Now I just need BB to price match down to at least $2600 and I'm golden smile.gif
That's also been my experience with my 60" set.

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Thank you so much keeso! That is what I needed to hear! Now I just need BB to price match down to at least $2600 and I'm golden smile.gif

I concur with keeso's findings on my 60F8000. ive been very pleased so far.

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Thanks Buzz will do. Challenge for me is that I prefer a single hdmi run from receiver to set, and single picture setting for said input. So the trick I guess is to get each source outputting the same thing.

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For the 60" owners: I have calibrated my set 3 times with the wow disk and every time I do, my color setting always winds up at 43 which seems low to me. I use the blue filter and this I'd what I get. Anyone with the 60f8000 have a similar color setting?
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Thoth, where did you buy the UN75F8000?
Samsung's site shows it as not available yet.

Are you sure you don't have a UN75F6400 ?
Or the UN75ES9000 ?

I gambled and bought it from Sears online on May 19.

Even the most casual observer looking at the picture I posted should be able to tell from the TV's stand that it isn't an ES9000, and from a bit closer examination that it isn't an F6400 either.
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The stand is a Salamander Designs Synergy Triple 10. I made the add-on speaker mount (not shelf).
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For the 60" owners: I have calibrated my set 3 times with the wow disk and every time I do, my color setting always winds up at 43 which seems low to me. I use the blue filter and this I'd what I get. Anyone with the 60f8000 have a similar color setting?

Don't use the blue filter - the Samsung has an RGB only mode which allows you to enable Blue mode only (and disables Red & Green). This is more accurate than the blue filter.

My 65" F8000 Color setting is around 48 with the Wow, Spears & Munsil and AVSHD discs and my Tint is at 50/50. This is if you use color space "Auto". It's my understanding that you'll want to set color back to "50" if you plan on using the "Custom" color space and calibrating each of the 6 colors with a meter (which I plan to do eventually). Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Don't use the blue filter - the Samsung has an RGB only mode which allows you to enable Blue mode only (and disables Red & Green). This is more accurate than the blue filter.

My 65" F8000 Color setting is around 48 with the Wow, Spears & Munsil and AVSHD discs and my Tint is at 50/50. This is if you use color space "Auto". It's my understanding that you'll want to set color back to "50" if you plan on using the "Custom" color space and calibrating each of the 6 colors with a meter (which I plan to do eventually). Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
That worked perfectly. I wound up with 48 for color and tint at 50/50 too. Thank you!
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If the display is being sent YCbCr you will see Normal and it will be grayed out. If you are sending RGB you get a choice of Low or Normal. Low is for PC level (0-255) signals and Normal is for Video level (16-235). If Video level and you select Low, the near black (dark gray) will be crushed into black and you will not see content that was meant to be seen.

I believe you have the RGB settings reversed.
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If the display is being sent YCbCr you will see Normal and it will be grayed out. If you are sending RGB you get a choice of Low or Normal. Low is for PC level (0-255) signals and Normal is for Video level (16-235). If Video level and you select Low, the near black (dark gray) will be crushed into black and you will not see content that was meant to be seen.

I believe you have the RGB settings reversed.
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So, cnet just put out an article ranking tv's for input lag. The 55F8000 did pretty poorly. It scored 81.4ms in game mode. In game mode! The Sony KDL-47W802A scored 16ms. I know samsung does a lot of processing, but I was hoping that in game mode most of that was off and with the quad core it would be rocking. I know input lag has more to do with the panel than the processor, but I was still disappointed to say the least. I was hoping that someone here plays call of duty or halo or something and can confirm that PC mode is way better than game mode and that you can't even tell there is lag. I would love it if cnet just didn't know anout PC mode and input lag was more in the 40ms range.
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First cut at settings for my 75", using CalMAN 4+ColorMunki+CalPC. Your mileage will vary.

Congrats Thoth! Now that you've posted what I guess are your OBJECTIVE settings and viewed it for a few days please share your SUBJECTIVE feedback as far as PQ and WoW Factor. It's important to me as I'm considering this 75" also and having been a D8000 60" owner for two years I've been disappointed in the nighttime viewing of my panel with terrible black uniformity in the dark that is perfectly disguised during daylight hours. Unfortunately, I have some physical limitations with a weak heart and cannot setup a 200lb 80" beast whereas the Samsung's are so lightweight they bring a real advantage to physically limited/disabled folks - though I must build in White Glove setup - and plasma will NEVER be considered in my HT as I've been there done that and never again despite the fanfare on this forum I hate plasma.

I'm not expecting perfection but I watched the so called Shootout for two full nights and they blocked the F8000 pretty much both nights and it appeared to be a plasma fan fest to me and I'd prefer feedback from fellow LED owners comparative subjective performance of those familiar with the D8000 and Sony and Sharps compared to the F8000 and removing Plasma period. I don't really give a crap what a room full of Calibrators have to say about Objective measures/performance when in my HT if a plasma sucks it SUCKS! It's my money not Value Electronics and so they did little providing feedback to LCD/LED fans especially when they placed the Panny LED which looked like an 8 year old panel that belonged in a scrap heap.

How does the F8000 measure up to the past D8000/ES8000/9000? Is there much wow factor in that 75" screen realty? The reason I ask about wow factor is because I previously owned a 57" Sharp Beast of a panel for five years and I swear it seemed bigger and possessed more WoW factor than my slim line 60" Samsung. I sometimes wonder if it's matte screen provided more wow factor with a view into a window feeling as it pretty much had zero reflections vs Samsung - it was the oddest thing to get a screen 3" larger and having it feel smaller and lacked involuntary wow factor I often had with the old Sharp. Your feedback is much appreciated and congrats again! Thank you!smile.gif

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