Originally Posted by fonz5000
Well I guess this means no F8000 for me. And it looks like the F8500 plasma is even worse for game mode input lag.... As a huge gamer this is a big selling point that I won't compromise with...... Now the question is, what tv do I get now???? Are the F7100 or F6400 better?? I see that Samsung will be releasing their 4k tv's pretty soon but don't have a 75" listed. Shouted I wait and get a 65"? Dang it, just when I think I have my mind made up.
The Sony w900a got really good input lag scores from cnet. 19ms which is phenominal. The step down, the 802a, somehow did better at 16ms. The f8000 in PC mode scored 50ms. For me, playing super twitchy games like black ops online, 50 is fine. If you have bad Internet lag, in combination with 50ms input lag you might notice. For me, my Internet connection is fine and I think the input lag on the set is just as good as my old Sony z4100. It doesn't look THAT bad in PC mode either (especially under the entertainment setting). Don't get me wrong, it's not a $3000 picture, but it's still as good as my old Sony in game mode. All in all I love this tv. The picture is phenominal, the popping colors, the deep blacks, and the motion control are bar none in the price range. To boot you also get the best smart hub suite of any tv out there right now, the best 3D processing, 4 pairs of glasses, and a design that looks truly high end even off. With its only downsides maybe not passing DD5.1 through optical after receiving through an external source via hdmi (which not many tvs do due to copyright issues), a not so quick game mode (which is a compromise between looking good and being a little quicker), but it does have PC mode which still technically works, hardcore gamers can still get their kicks with this tv. And finally viewing angle isn't the best because samsung and Sony both use s-pva, so the viewing angle isn't going to be any better on the w900a. Yes ips has better viewing angles, but there's a reason that sharp and lg are using them and they are considered inferior sets. The contrast isn't as good on them. I'd rather have deep blacks dead on for me and let my guests on an angle suffer than have the same, not so deep contrast at every angle including mine dead on. I have a question for eagle or really any f8000 owner, when you run your finger down the actuall lcd screen, is there a slight trail where your finger was? Supposedly the longer the trail the worse the viewing angle is. It might be bogus, who knows, but I have literally no trail and my viewing angle is pretty decent. Just curious. I really do think this is the best led you can buy for under $6000. Even the 4k Sony didn't impress me enough to justify twice the price. It was better, but maybe only 10-15% better and that's with a 4k feed, not bluray. I absolutely love this tv! This is coming from hating the es8000. I won't do plasma because I have a ton of windows and the Sony w900a's only advantages of slightly, like barely better blacks and better input lag (which who knows how washed out it looks in game mode to get that 19ms with virtually no processing) was not worth it for the 5 less inches at the same price. And this is coming from someone who only bought sonys in the past.