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Thanks buzz, I actually went to gamma 0 after running my spears disk. Throwing all tech talk out the window ;-), It seamed a tad washed at +1 with the spears disk. Lol...Guess my only anal ocd response is this?! Swinging gamma 1 point will F up things how much if at all in general? Or what key pattern should I use if any to look at?
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Hi Buzz ,

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So there coming to pick up my F8000 65 I have till Thursday to decide if I want a 60 inch or 65 inch.

Get the 65! My guess is what you are experiencing is very rare, or a bad GPU in your console

Edit: your game console that is
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Big time hit or miss question... Has anyone owned or closely compared a F8000 and F7100? And was there a noticeable difference in PQ? I bought a 65 inch 7100 and am not impressed. Besides the bad vertical banding which can happen on any LCD, it has some pretty bad motion problems, the colors aren't deep and the picture seems soft. My 6 year old Samsung LCD is much better. I'm thinking of exchanging for the F8000 if there is a noticeable difference or the PNF8500 plasma, which I know is awesome but hesitate buying because of input lag/IR, (I'm a gamer). Thanks!

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I would upgrade to the f8000. I have owned in the last 4 months a panasonic ZT AND VT 65" then went to the f7100. I was not pleased with the banding, ghosting or uniformity of the tv so I upgraded to the f8000. It was a huge difference. I see 1/4 of the ghosting and am very pleased with it. If you are th8nking of the 75" I would say check out the f9000 as the pruce just dropped and the picture is even a little better than the f8000.

If you cant afford the f9000 then without a doubt get the f8000!
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Just to clearify my experience I own a 75" f8000 for the living room and a 65"f9000 for the man cave.
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Ghosting, that's what it's called when the details in actor's faces blur when they move, right? Yes I think that's what I'm seeing. It's pretty bad. You would still recommend the F8000 over the F8500 plasma? I really wish it was easier to see these things in stores. When all they display are Blue Rays on the high end TVs and terrible, split feeds on the low end TVs, it becomes impossible to judge.

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Thanks. I wish I could find a Best Buy using the stands. All the stores in my area have the TV's hung. But that should help.

I would definitely go with the bigger size. I'm kicking myself in the butt for not going bigger the first time around or when I received the price adjustment. Only over week before my return period expires....
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Can someone with the 65 inch tell me how wide the stand is? Is it the same size as the 60 inch?

This will tell you,

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN65F8000BFXZA-specs
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Has anyone owned or closely compared a F8000 and F7100?

I had two F7100 models. The first one had a funky white box that would pop out of nowhere and move around the top of the screen. It also had two clouds in the bottom left and right. I read the box was actually normal and there was a way to make it go away but I couldn't put up with the clouds. I exchanged the TV after one day. The second set had minimal banding and flashlighting that I could "live with." This was before BB gave me the 60 day return period and on the 15th day the damn box appeared again, then a few hours later I found a dead pixel. I couldn't put up with it so I exchanged the set for the F8000, first one out of the box perfect.

As far as PQ goes I really couldn't tell you. I would need to watch them side by side but as far as I can remember the PQ was to my liking on the 7100, the uniformity wasn't. I didn't calibrate the 7100 either.

You can understand my hesitation to go bigger. I really want to get a bigger set but feel like the next TV I get will be another nightmare.
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Thanks buzz, I actually went to gamma 0 after running my spears disk. Throwing all tech talk out the window ;-), It seamed a tad washed at +1 with the spears disk. Lol...Guess my only anal ocd response is this?! Swinging gamma 1 point will F up things how much if at all in general? Or what key pattern should I use if any to look at?

Not sure how large the change is with each click of the Gamma preset and I'm 1600 miles from my F8000 so can't measure for a couple more months.

Try the attached zipped tiff file. You want to just barely see the upper left hand corner, and even increases in luminance as the rectangles become brighter. Gamma is more important in these dark areas than in the bright section of the Grayscale.


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Ghosting, that's what it's called when the details in actor's faces blur when they move, right? Yes I think that's what I'm seeing. It's pretty bad. You would still recommend the F8000 over the F8500 plasma? I really wish it was easier to see these things in stores. When all they display are Blue Rays on the high end TVs and terrible, split feeds on the low end TVs, it becomes impossible to judge.

Try using clear mode in amp

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I've been watching BluRay movies here on my F8000 and all of their faces stay crystal clear with LED Clear Motion On, Anti-Blur 10, Anti-Judder 0. I haven't even noticed any dark tone smear when watching movies. The motion handling on the F8000 is tops. If you're seeing weird blur then it's probably the source, noise reduction artifacts, or anti-judder artifacts.
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Howdy guys,

I just paid for my F8000 which is to be here on Thursday. Is there any break-in process/period im to follow?

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Thanks buzz, Ill use that for sure, and follow up. Appreciate it man! I'll use that file as my final decision for adjustment :-D ps. Id hire you for a cal. but Sioux Falls is a bit outta the way for you, not sure if I trust my isf options in this city.
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MOOKIE,

No break in like a plasma...just run your set and let the pixesl dial in. The thing to watch for in the first hundred hours or so are dead pixels, ghosting, light bleed, and banding. Some say the ghosting and flashlight effects go away after the tv is ran for a while and others say exchange your set immediately if you see these problems.
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Anybody know of a discreet code for the bright toggle in 3d mode?! It always goes back to low. Or is that a firmware bug?! Otherwise I dont think the backlight is seperate between 3d and non 3d in pic settings...unless Im wrong?
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MOOKIE,

No break in like a plasma...just run your set and let the pixesl dial in. The thing to watch for in the first hundred hours or so are dead pixels, ghosting, light bleed, and banding. Some say the ghosting and flashlight effects go away after the tv is ran for a while and others say exchange your set immediately if you see these problems.

Thanks! Just so im sure when you say run your set...turn it on and watch whatever? No slides or any sort to run?
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Thanks buzz, Ill use that for sure, and follow up. Appreciate it man! I'll use that file as my final decision for adjustment :-D ps. Id hire you for a cal. but Sioux Falls is a bit outta the way for you, not sure if I trust my isf options in this city.

My first wife was from Clark. eek.gif

Sioux Falls is the home of SpectraCal, CalMAN software. Call them and ask. They write the SW so maybe you find someone who knows how to use it.... lol

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Lol, im from Minny, but been in Sioux Falls for 12 years now...great city, but every person ive ever met from clark is a bit off, if not way off :-) Thanks again! Ill look into it, i went blank for sure on spectra, I knew they are here... Face palm, ha. Take care man.
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Hows it going guys, read most of this thread and I am wondering if the issues with gaming has been fixed. Looking to get this TV to setup a PS4 and X1, is it worth getting something else instead or is this the best TV on the market right now? Thanks a lot.
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Could anyone help me with how i can go about mounting this TV?

So first of all,
the top screw wholes and the bottoms are different,

http://imageshack.us/a/img855/7289/m322.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img543/4989/lffy.jpg
the top are way smaller unless those black things are suppost to come out?

what size screws / length should i go buy and what spacer size?
the wallmount i have is,
http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Articulating-600x400-Leveling-Adjustments/dp/B001LL5JDA/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1377623883&sr=1-19&keywords=wall+mount
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Could anyone help me with how i can go about mounting this TV?

So first of all,
the top screw wholes and the bottoms are different,

http://imageshack.us/a/img855/7289/m322.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img543/4989/lffy.jpg
the top are way smaller unless those black things are suppost to come out?

what size screws / length should i go buy and what spacer size?
the wallmount i have is,
http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Articulating-600x400-Leveling-Adjustments/dp/B001LL5JDA/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1377623883&sr=1-19&keywords=wall+mount

Your TV should have come with 2 spacers for wall mounting.
If I recall correctly m8 screws are used and all the wall mounts I bought in the last few years came with appropriate screws
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Your TV should have come with 2 spacers for wall mounting.
If I recall correctly m8 screws are used and all the wall mounts I bought in the last few years came with appropriate screws

i think i found it, are they two big circle knobs that screw on? if so i found it, thanks so much
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Hows it going guys, read most of this thread and I am wondering if the issues with gaming has been fixed. Looking to get this TV to setup a PS4 and X1, is it worth getting something else instead or is this the best TV on the market right now? Thanks a lot.

Yep, the input lag issues have been fixed.
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I've been playing CS:GO and I seriously think the lag is down to 25ms or less. I mean, it's EXTREMELY responsive. My 22ms monitor gives pretty much an identical experience. Glad it's fixed and it's better than I would have ever wanted from Samsung. I seriously think the F8000 is one of the best gaming TVs ever now. The deep black level and bright whites really brings games to life. Cinema black also makes game cutscenes look even better.
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Wondering what price did you guys pay for the TV, seems like the price is the same everywhere 1700 bucks. Thanks.
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Ever wonder why you hear virtually nothing about the UNxxF7500's? Curious . . .
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Wondering what price did you guys pay for the TV, seems like the price is the same everywhere 1700 bucks. Thanks.

Samsung controls the pricing via UMRP (Unilateral Manufacturer’s Retail Price)
The Unilateral Manufacturer’s Retail Price is the rock bottom price you can’t sell below regardless of IMAP or UMAP. Manufacturers have strict rules, and you can get reprimanded if you sell below this price. Each manufacturer has their own rule regarding their UMRP policy.


So basically any authorized reseller must follow this
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Wondering what price did you guys pay for the TV, seems like the price is the same everywhere 1700 bucks. Thanks.

I don't even want to think about that. I actually found one before the official launch of the set, and it was the only one the store got in. I'm guessing they intended it to be a display unit but they sold it to me regardless. Thinking how fast they and Sony lowered the prices of their top sets makes my stomach churn. Note to self: be more patient when it comes to purchasing televisions in the future.
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