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So I'm making a new thread now that I've got the TV. The image with movies is amazing, and it's very vibrant when gaming and no video lag as far as I can tell. There is no clouding issue that I am aware of. The picture is fantastic and even watchable with analog tv input. I have a ps3 as well and the ps3 makes for a much better picture obviously, I love this tv so far and do not regret the purchase.

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Glad you like it 2 yr warranty is good I looked at TCL's on line ended up with a 50 Plasma different brand on sale at BB.
TCL is FWIHR a very large manufacturer and the top brand in China owners seem to like them .

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Glad you like it 2 yr warranty is good I looked at TCL's on line ended up with a 50 Plasma on sale at BB.
TCL is FWIHR a very large manufacturer and the top brand in China owners seem to like them .
Well the TV looks phenomenal now that I've been able to do a little tuning for each different use. Watching ghost protocol right now.

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Now that I've used for the first time in a dark room, I noticed the clouding when the screen goes pitch black, it's really not a nuisance because its only there when nothing is there, my other LCD does it too. And it might actually be backlight rather than clouding. I don't know if there's a difference lol.
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Was this a BJ's purchase? I was actually looking at this same TV on BJ's website and was going to go see if my local store has it, since its such a good deal. Glad to see some positive reviews about it. I'm always instantly skeptical about off-brand TVs (at least in the US).

Also, can you comment on the reflectiveness/glossiness of the screen? This is a big thing for me, as I have a window and some lights positioned at the seating area (i.e. directly in front of the tv), so I'm looking for a matte or at least coated screen that isn't going to reflect everything straight back at me while I'm watching tv.
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Was this a BJ's purchase? I was actually looking at this same TV on BJ's website and was going to go see if my local store has it, since its such a good deal. Glad to see some positive reviews about it. I'm always instantly skeptical about off-brand TVs (at least in the US).

Also, can you comment on the reflectiveness/glossiness of the screen? This is a big thing for me, as I have a window and some lights positioned at the seating area (i.e. directly in front of the tv), so I'm looking for a matte or at least coated screen that isn't going to reflect everything straight back at me while I'm watching tv.
It's like a semi-matte screen, the reflections aren't bad at all, it gives the picture of a gloss and the reflection of a matte screen.
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I want to concur with OP. I just bought this TV about three weeks ago and this TV is amazing for the price. The pictures are gorgeous and beautiful both on regular HD cable TV and on Blu Ray movies. I found the following settings are the best for my taste:

Brightness: 49
Contrast: 94
Sharpness: 0
Backlight: 20
Color: 44
Tint: 0
Color Temp: 0
Light sensor: Off
Dynamic Backlight: Off
Noise Reduction: Low
SABC: Off
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Thanks for starting this thread... We picked up this TV yesterday at Fry's for $499 as we were looking for a decent size and decent featured TV for the money, after reading up here on the other TCL thread and also some Amazon reviews, I have a few thoughts...

1. Sharpness is required for text to not be blurry, I like around 50 myself.
2. Lower backlight level will eliminate cloudiness and improve black levels. 20-35 should be what almost everyone uses. Compensate with higher contrast, 85-95.
3. motion blur is non-existent but also no SOE either, so I'm curious how the "240Hz" works on this too.

Just a few thoughts for now, I will keep posted on this thread! smile.gif
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You guys will think I'm insane but my settings are this:

For TV:
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 80
Sharpness: 60
Backlight: 80
Color:40
Tint: 0
Color Temp: 0
Light Sensor Off
Dynamic Backlight Off
Noise Reduction Low
SABC Off

HDMI 1:
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 80
Sharpness: 40
Backlight: 80
Color: 40
Tint: 0
Color Temp: 0
Light Sensor Off
Dynamic Backlight Off
Noise Reduction Off
SABC Off
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You guys will think I'm insane but my settings are this:

For TV:
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 80
Sharpness: 60
Backlight: 80
Color:40
Tint: 0
Color Temp: 0
Light Sensor Off
Dynamic Backlight Off
Noise Reduction Low
SABC Off

HDMI 1:
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 80
Sharpness: 40
Backlight: 80
Color: 40
Tint: 0
Color Temp: 0
Light Sensor Off
Dynamic Backlight Off
Noise Reduction Off
SABC Off

Backlight is way too high IMHO. Have you tried higher contrast and lower backlight? I have found that is better for black levels and cloudiness, but then again not everyone cares about that, they simply like BRIGHT.
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Anybody know what SABC does?
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Backlight is way too high IMHO. Have you tried higher contrast and lower backlight? I have found that is better for black levels and cloudiness, but then again not everyone cares about that, they simply like BRIGHT.

I don't like the way the picture looks when I lower the backlight. I don't have much of an issue with clouding other than on very dark scenes.
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Anybody know what SABC does?

Scene Adaptive Brightness Control. Since it sounds like you prefer brightness over any kind of color accuracy or black level, I'd just leave it off.
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I don't like the way the picture looks when I lower the backlight. I don't have much of an issue with clouding other than on very dark scenes.

I came from having a plasma that was nice, but just too hot, heavy and big for our small living room. Plasma's are not super bright so I learned to appreciate true color accuracy and black levels. This LED thing is WAY too bright and washed out looking at those settings you listed. They are set that way out of the box to try to attract buys based on brightness on the showroom floor. I.E. people simply buy them because they think bright looks good. I'm not trying to be snob here, but I thought the point of this enthusiast site was to go for true picture quality and not just washed out brightness so I just want you to know where I'm coming from when I post here, and that's why you don't see anyone else recommended a backlight above more than 35, It simply ruins the black levels.

So ya, I DO think you are insane, like you said yourself. wink.gif
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I believe your backlight setting is way too high. Try to lower your backlight down to below 40 and see how you like it. I would also lower the sharpness setting too. I found that set it below 30 would be good as high setting would cause background and edge noises.
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I would also lower the sharpness setting too. I found that set it below 30 would be good as high setting would cause background and edge noises.

For me, text gets blurry if I set it any lower than 50 or so, I wonder if there are different software versions out there on this?
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The picture on my screen isn't washed out at all where my backlight is set, and I noticed that even when I lower my backlight the "clouding" is still there when the credits appear. I enjoy very good picture quality, and when I lower the backlight it just doesn't look right to me. I lowered the backlight to 50 though, it's not too bad. Slightly better I suppose.
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I use 40 myself so we really aren't too far off... I was just giving you a hard time to encourage debate and so we all have more ideas on how to max out our set... Personally I'm not seeing cloudiness at 40 at all, I just bump my contrast to 90 with backlight at 40 and that happens to be the sweet spot for me...

Thanks again for starting this thread!
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Perhaps it should be turned into a official TCL LE48(55)FHDF3300Z owners thread.
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Yes, it should, it is a very popular model actually! It has 400 reviews on Amazon now.
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Yes, it should, it is a very popular model actually! It has 400 reviews on Amazon now.
Yeah I know that's where I bought it from. Wonder how many people here actually have one.
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Life of Pi on this tv is quite amazing. Then again I presume Life of Pi on any HDTV would be amazing. It's a great PQ testing movie.
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Yeah I know that's where I bought it from. Wonder how many people here actually have one.

Oh yeah, since your model number ends in "ta" I should have known... Ones sold at retail stores have no "ta" at the end of the model number and have a colorful box, no other difference... How do we make it "Official"?

Also... I am sold on Backlight of 50 and Contrast of 50 now, thanks for the suggestion! smile.gif
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Oh yeah, since your model number ends in "ta" I should have known... Ones sold at retail stores have no "ta" at the end of the model number and have a colorful box, no other difference... How do we make it "Official"?

Also... I am sold on Backlight of 50 and Contrast of 50 now, thanks for the suggestion! smile.gif

Admin has to allow it I think not sure. And 50 contrast?? I'm using 90 contrast, 80-90 there's really no difference except it seems like 90 brings a few more details out in the picture so I use that.
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Admin has to allow it I think not sure. And 50 contrast?? I'm using 90 contrast, 80-90 there's really no difference except it seems like 90 brings a few more details out in the picture so I use that.

Oops! I meant 40-50 backlight and 80-90 contrast smile.gif
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Oops! I meant 40-50 backlight and 80-90 contrast smile.gif

Oh okay that makes more sense lol.
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Here it is hooked up to my laptop. It has an amazing PQ.
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Just in case anyone is wondering my new display settings are

TV
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 90
Sharpness: 60
Backlight: 50
Color: 40
Tint: 0
Color Temp: 0
Light Sensor: Off
Dynamic Backlight Off
Noise Reduction: Low
SABC: Off

HDMI 1
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 90
Sharpness: 40
Backlight: 50
Color: 40
Tint: 0
Color Temp: 0
Light Sensor: Off
Dynamic Backlight: Off
Noise Reduction: Low
SABC: Off
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The only difference of sharpness makes total sense as TV quite often needs some to read text, etc... I'm still sticking with a backlight of 40 as cloudiness and overbrightness occurs... I also need to try calibrating with a Disney Blu Ray and I will post results.
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The only difference of sharpness makes total sense as TV quite often needs some to read text, etc... I'm still sticking with a backlight of 40 as cloudiness and overbrightness occurs... I also need to try calibrating with a Disney Blu Ray and I will post results.

You could also go get a calibrating disc
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