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Hi everyone, i've recently purchased a Samsung F5500 46", i'm loving it for gaming (input lag is very good) but i've noticed a terrible "flickering" during end credits movies and while there's a light in motion.
I know this TV is just 60hz but flickering is too much noticeable... especially when there's withe text on dark background. Is that a "normal issue" for this panel? Should i returned it to Amazon?

All picture modes except for 'Movie' and 'PC' brighten or darken the backlight depending on how bright the scene is (this goes into overdrive during credits). If your using "Standard" as your picture mode change it to 'Movie'.


As for gaming make sure you change the name of the HDMI port to PC, that will greatly reduce the input lag.
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All picture modes except for 'Movie' and 'PC' brighten or darken the backlight depending on how bright the scene is (this goes into overdrive during credits). If your using "Standard" as your picture mode change it to 'Movie'.


As for gaming make sure you change the name of the HDMI port to PC, that will greatly reduce the input lag.
I've already the picture mode on "Movie" but the problems is still there... anyway is not a big problem because i can notice that just when "end credits" start to roll down.

I use "game mode" for gaming with all to OFF (dynamic contrast, etc.). I've heard about the "pc label trick" but i've also heard the picture is washed out with that method... are you sure that method is better than "game mode" one?

Anyway i'm experimenting another minor problem lately. I've noticed when there's no constant audio in the background a little "audio delay" while i scroll between the menu options, this happens in the tv menu and also with my PS4 in the PS Store where there is no music in background. While i scroll between options the volume seems to be lower sometimes for just 1 second (i mean the sound of the last "menu selection" is lower than the previous one or vice versa), but it works good when there's a constant sound in the background. For example PS4 dashboard is not affected... I hope i was clear.
Is that normal?

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Edit: I saw there was the "game mode" causing the audio delay...
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been skimming the thread but dont really see an answer here. I picked up a UN32F5500AFXZA a little while back and finally got around to using it. I wanted something smaller for my older consoles and that i could watch netflix on. Anyway theres one setting thats always confused me

the color space setting. Its options are auto and native. What does native mean? Just judging from what it does on native im assuming this is color space 'normal' and 'wide' that you see on other tvs, with native being wide, but im not sure. Can anyone fill me in on this?

overall a decent tv for the price i got it for. Has a few quirks and i noticed while skimming something about auto dimming on most inputs. I think that might be the weird over contrast thing i seemed to notice in some games. I"ll have to look into it
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been skimming the thread but dont really see an answer here. I picked up a UN32F5500AFXZA a little while back and finally got around to using it. I wanted something smaller for my older consoles and that i could watch netflix on. Anyway theres one setting thats always confused me

the color space setting. Its options are auto and native. What does native mean? Just judging from what it does on native im assuming this is color space 'normal' and 'wide' that you see on other tvs, with native being wide, but im not sure. Can anyone fill me in on this?

overall a decent tv for the price i got it for. Has a few quirks and i noticed while skimming something about auto dimming on most inputs. I think that might be the weird over contrast thing i seemed to notice in some games. I"ll have to look into it
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/fa...UN32F5500AFXZA
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been skimming the thread but dont really see an answer here. I picked up a UN32F5500AFXZA a little while back and finally got around to using it. I wanted something smaller for my older consoles and that i could watch netflix on. Anyway theres one setting thats always confused me

the color space setting. Its options are auto and native. What does native mean? Just judging from what it does on native im assuming this is color space 'normal' and 'wide' that you see on other tvs, with native being wide, but im not sure. Can anyone fill me in on this?

overall a decent tv for the price i got it for. Has a few quirks and i noticed while skimming something about auto dimming on most inputs. I think that might be the weird over contrast thing i seemed to notice in some games. I"ll have to look into it
The Native color space is fake. When Samsung says "Wide Color Enhancer" they are not lying; It literally takes all the color values and pushes them outward to make them seem more vivid (ex. yellow becomes more orange). -- On older sets you could go into the service menu and find 'WCE', inside it had Tint & Saturation controls to adjust how far it would skew each Primary & Secondary color.

As for playing games on the F5500, if game console is a PS2/XBox/GC/Wii or older turn on Game mode. If it is a Xbox360/PS3/PC or newer rename the HDMI input to PC. -- When renaming the input to PC you loose the "Image Enhacement" stuff but gain 2x the color resolution on Red and Blue and the input lag is almost cut in half.

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I've already the picture mode on "Movie" but the problems is still there... anyway is not a big problem because i can notice that just when "end credits" start to roll down.

I use "game mode" for gaming with all to OFF (dynamic contrast, etc.). I've heard about the "pc label trick" but i've also heard the picture is washed out with that method... are you sure that method is better than "game mode" one?

Anyway i'm experimenting another minor problem lately. I've noticed when there's no constant audio in the background a little "audio delay" while i scroll between the menu options, this happens in the tv menu and also with my PS4 in the PS Store where there is no music in background. While i scroll between options the volume seems to be lower sometimes for just 1 second (i mean the sound of the last "menu selection" is lower than the previous one or vice versa), but it works good when there's a constant sound in the background. For example PS4 dashboard is not affected... I hope i was clear.
Is that normal?
If your using none of the Dynamic Contrast or Enhancement features than yes PC mode is much, much better. It basiclly turns the TV into a PC monitor with a 2x chroma (color) resolution bump on Red and Blue. -- In Game and Normal mode Red/Blue's resolution is cut in half (ex. 1920x1080 becomes 960x540). Also the input lag is only 28ms on PC mode; compare that to 50ish on Game and 100ish on Normal.

Do you have the TV hooked up to a Receiver via optical? If you do, than yes that is normal. -- Also, in the Sound sub menu (and possibly Receiver) you can adjust the audio delay.

P.S. All modes except for PC and Movie have the Color saturation set WAY too high in the Service Menu. When switching to PC or Movie you will notice things look less Vivid even though the user 'Color' control is set to 50 in all modes.

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Hi everyone, i've recently purchased a Samsung F5500 46", i'm loving it for gaming (input lag is very good) but i've noticed a terrible "flickering" during end credits movies and while there's a light in motion.
I know this TV is just 60hz but flickering is too much noticeable... especially when there's withe text on dark background. Is that a "normal issue" for this panel? Should i returned it to Amazon?
Oh crap, I almost forgot. If you have the Eco Sensor on or any of the other power saving options... turn those off as they cause the backlight to dim as well.

As for returning it to Amazon, can you post a video of the flickering? If you do then me or someone else will let you know if it is normal.
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Oh crap, I almost forgot. If you have the Eco Sensor on or any of the other power saving options... turn those off as they cause the backlight to dim as well.

As for returning it to Amazon, can you post a video of the flickering? If you do then me or someone else will let you know if it is normal.
I didn't return it to Amazon, i've decided to keep it also because i use this tv most for gaming, not much for bd movies.
I've read game mode also has 28ms of input lag if you turn off dynamic contrast etc.
I always have all the ECO options to off... I've not the TV hooked up to a receiver via optical, i don't know why game mode makes that iusse...

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Hey guys. I just purchased the Samsung UN40H5500AF.
A fantastic TV for the price. Superb for gaming and movie watching. One of the few sets where the 'game mode' actually makes the PQ even better -smoothes out image quality and makes games looks sharper and cleaner- (after calibration of course).

The PQ is excellent, (heck even better than some high end models) but I'm noticing some subtle color smearing in certain areas. It happens with extremely dark blacks against brighter backgrounds (or even dark on dark) and there's a bluish/purplish smearing trail. It's subtle and not as bad as some of those Sharp panels, but it's noticeable. I also noticed it when playing Fifa 14. The red icons above the players' heads sometimes leave a very light reddish smear when the camera is panning very quickly.
I have game mode 'on' and all processing extras turned off. Is this a common thing with these sets (or LEDs/LCDs in general) or do I have a faulty product? Again, sometimes I don't see it at all and it only happens in very specific areas of games.

If anyone else is experiencing the light smearing issue in dark areas, I'd love to know.
My panel Version: TS01 (I'm guessing this is the good kind? Not Sharp?)

Here are my calibration settings using the Disney WOW disc (Put TV in Game Mode and 'then' calibrate):

Game Mode: ON
Picture Mode: Standard (Can't change with game mode on, but try to match the Movie mode if possible)
Backlight: 10 (My TV is in a very, very dim room hence the low backlight).
Contrast: 95
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 0
Color: 50 (Tested the color pattern with a blue filter. The set actually has a perfect color balance out of the box-very rare).
Tint: G50/R50

ADVANCE SETTINGS
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Black Tone: Off
Flesh Tone: 0
RGB Only Mode: Off
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 0

PICTURE OPTIONS
Color Tone: Warm2
Size: Screen Fit
Digital Noise Filter: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
HDMI Black Level: Low
Film Mode: Off
LED Clear Motion: Off

PS: A quick questions for those using XBOX ONE with this TV. When switching to Game Mode, have any of you noticed a subtle change in the green color specifically? (Most noticeable on the system launch screen). It appears more 'vibrant' or slightly more saturated when switching to game mode. Anyone else notice this?

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