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Just a heads up for anyone who decides to use any of these monitors as a PC monitor. Contrary to what some people have been saying, I have found the MVA panel to be very unsatisfactory for PC use because of the poor viewing angles creating gamma shift. The 39" is guaranteed to be an MVA panel made by AUO, since no other manufacturer makes that size. The 42" will be panel lottery.

I got the 39ln5300 of which extensive calibration and review has already been done in previous pages. However, at a distance of 2.5-3 feet, the gamma shift flanks the center and goes towards the edges, consuming half the image. I can't believe how some people can think this is remotely IPS worthy in viewing angles. I have a gray wallpaper and grayish theme in Windows. There is a middle circle of dark gray, which is the right color, and everything around it extending to the edges is light "fluffy" gray, the kind of fluffy reflective look a gray furred plushie would have. I switched to a dark purple theme. Same thing. The contrast and blacks are clearly superior to IPS, but they aren't worth the viewing angle issues. I can't look at a solid block of anything without the fluffiness change caused by gamma shift by poor viewing angles. You need to sit far away and in the center to get a shift-free viewing experience, which defeats it's monitor credential's unless its just an HTPC. As just a TV, anyone viewing it more than 30 degrees is gonna notice the shift on darker images very easily.

The other big issue is glare. I don't know what LG uses for its coating, but it makes the screen reflection look vague and oily. You would think the vague-ness means its semi-gloss and not very reflective. It is actually the complete opposite. Whenever there is something dark on the scene, I can clearly see my face very brightly against it. Some LCD screens reflect larger but less distracting solid chunks of light. The LG reflects silhouettes and everything very clearly. My current TV that I am using, which is pretty old, has a thick gloss layer that has a very dim reflection. None of the strong bright reflection the LG has.
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I recently bought the LN5400 and I think it is a great TV for it's price.

I use it in PC mode for my PS4 and have calibrated by eye to an acceptable level.

Has anyone found a way to disable or reduce the overshoot? I notice it quite a bit on fast moving games - and would love to be able to do something about it.
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I have the LG42LN5300 in one of the bedrooms here used for TV/DVD /BD the picture isn't bad but not remarkable view angle is decent being an IPS panel. Blacks aren't the greatest so the contrast could be better but thats the thing with IPS panels .

I have a same year (2013) Sony KDL 40R450A in my bedroom with a Samsung SPVA panel and Sony backlight (they usually buy LCD cells and assemble the rest themselves ) better picture all in all than my LG better blacks ,contrast,color ,picture fine detail .

The LG is decent though there is some clouding at night and bluish blacks and crushed shadow detail (compared to the Sony) the LG blacks can not match the Sony OTOH the Sony has a S##ty view angle by comparison . All in all the LG isn't bad and has a lot of useful picture settings and TBH it's better than quite a few of the other sets out there .

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I bought this used (in pristine condition) for £80 so it is remarkable at that price range for me
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I bought this used (in pristine condition) for £80 so it is remarkable at that price range for me
Swinging deal a decent set all in all too!

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I bought this TV a few weeks ago and am generally pretty happy with it. I am wondering though does any one else have a noticable "dirty screen effect" when watching the World Cup? Not clouding or backlight bleed, but more an effect from what I assume is uneven anti glare coating application. It's not really noticeable in other situations, I assume it might also appear during a football game kickoff or hockey where there's a panning relatively uniform light color?

I'm pretty sure mine is VA panel, the blacks are better than IPS and there is typical VA off angle gamma shift.
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I picked up a 42" LN5300 today with the IPS product number however the color uniformity seems pretty bad for my particular panel. Half of the panel seems very cool where the other half seems very warm. There is also a noticeable dark spots in various locations.

Below is a picture I took with my not so great nexus 4 camera which doesn't really show the warm/cool variance but does show the dark spots pretty well. This is my first IPS panel so I'm not quite sure what the "norm" is but I'm currently leaning towards taking it back to get it swapped. Any input would greatly appreciated!


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Ok its set to PC input now what settings should I use? 


This is what I use (finally typed it all without my browser crashing like last time) :

(For RGB sources. YCbCr source values are stated to the right)


Picture mode: Expert 1

Backlight: 56 (same with YCbCr [no "PC" input label] )

Contrast: 95 (same with YCbCr)

Brightness 53 (same with YCbCr)

H sharpness: 11 (10 with YCbCr)

V sharpness: 24 (17 with YCbCr)

Color: 53 (same with YCbCr)

Tint: G4 (same with YCbCr)


Picture Options:

Black Level: Auto (same with YCbCr)


Expert Control: (all same with YCbCr. Use "Copy White Point Values" for IRE)

Dynamic contrast: Off

Color Gamut: Wide

Edge enhancer: Off

Gamma: 2.2


Whitepoint:

Color Temp: Warm1

Method: 20-point IRE ( 2-point = High only - R-11 G-5 B18)

IRE 100: R10 G12 B20

IRE 95: R9 G11 B19

IRE 90: R8 G10 B18

IRE 85: R7 G9 B17

IRE 80: R6 G8 B16

IRE 75: R5 G7 B15

IRE 70: R4 G6 B14

IRE 65: R3 G5 B13

IRE 60: R2 G4 B12

IRE 55: R1 G3 B11

IRE 50: R0 G2 B10

IRE 45: R-1 G1 B9

IRE 40: R-2 G0 B8

IRE 35: R-3 G-1 B7

IRE 30: R-4 G-2 B6

IRE 25: R-5 G-3 B5

IRE 20: R-6 G-4 B4

IRE 15: R-7 G-5 B3

IRE 10: R-8 G-6 B2

IRE 5: R2 G 2 B10

IRE 0: R-50 G-25 0


Color Management System:

Red: Saturation -1 Tint -3 Luminance 0 (same with YCbCr)

Green: Saturation 1 Tint 2 Luminance 0 (same with YCbCr)

Blue: Saturation 2 Tint 18 Luminance 0 (same with YCbCr, except Tint is 23)

Cyan: Saturation 5 Tint 2 Luminance 0 (same with YCbCr)

Magenta: Saturation 4 Tint -1 Luminance 0 (same with YCbCr)

Yellow: Saturation 10 Tint 1 Luminance 0 (same with YCbCr)



Gamma is spot on with these settings using this page (for me). I use a 32" LN5300 for reference.
Looks good on my 47 lm6200 but I just used the main picture settings and for warm 1 i used W25, was wondering about real cinema, on or off?
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