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I had this tv for about a month and it never shut off suddenly on me. What was the room tempurature? The manual says it operates up to 40°C and 80% Humidity.

30°c max. my room is ok and well ventilated also nothing was blocking the tv from behind or the sides im still sad because i liked this tv so much the size and picture was great now i hate my samsung because is too small (32") once you have a 40" tv or more you cant go back no matter how great the tv is in this case "Size matters"
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Hi, I recently bought a 42" LG LN5300 and I'm wondering if the dark corners around the entire screen is acceptable. Is my set defective or is the normal on this model? My seven year old Sharp LCD never had this problem. Thanks.


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Looks like VA to me. I think LG is only using S-IPS in their tvs, (which look like little crescents). Did the box code have the Y in it?
I confirmed that it was an AU Optics VA or MVA panel. I don't know about the box code, since I returned the tv. I bought a 42LN5700 and it came with a S-IPS panel. It looks waaay better than the other panel.

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Is this chart not right then?
http://www.rtings.com/info/what-is-the-refresh-rate#clear-motion-rate
It says LG 120 = 120Hz panel.

Also, what's the option to enable frame interpolation? When I looked at a display model I couldn't find it.
It's right, however it doesn't accept an input over 60hz wink.gif thus converting 60hz to 120hz (not real 120hz)

The option to enable frame interpolation is is Menu->Picture->Picture Option->TruMotion
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Hi, I recently bought a 42" LG LN5300 and I'm wondering if the dark corners around the entire screen is acceptable. Is my set defective or is the normal on this model? My seven year old Sharp LCD never had this problem. Thanks.


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My 42ln5300 TV had worse backlightning bleeding, however, there could be other batches that look better.
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Hi, I recently bought a 42" LG LN5300 and I'm wondering if the dark corners around the entire screen is acceptable. Is my set defective or is the normal on this model? My seven year old Sharp LCD never had this problem. Thanks.

My 39LN5300 has absolutely no backlight bleed, but the darkened corners do exist when displaying a full field view of one color. Fortunately this almost never affects real world viewing. I used to be able to see the darkened corners if I looked for them, but now I can't see them at all even when looking for them during regular viewing (they are less than half an inch from the edge now.) Every VA panel I have seen has the darkened corners, and some are better than others. The "viewing cone" is just the nature of most VA panels. It beats the hell out of IPS glow, in my opinion. Your seating position will also affect the viewing cone. Move your seated position farther/lower and see if the darkened corners dissipate/

I still prefer the color and clarity of IPS, but the horrendous input lag on every IPS display over 32" I have tested keeps me far away from them.
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It's right, however it doesn't accept an input over 60hz wink.gif thus converting 60hz to 120hz (not real 120hz)

Well then no tv is real 120Hz, since no tv officially accepts over 60Hz signals. But some do have real 120Hz panels, as opposed to 60Hz panel with 120Hz confusing marketing terms. Though some people have reportedly gotten some tvs to accept 120Hz signals using undocumented methods http://www.avsforum.com/t/987894/120hz-output-from-computer#post_23414295.

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I still prefer the color and clarity of IPS, but the horrendous input lag on every IPS display over 32" I have tested keeps me far away from them.

Well I don't know what you consider horrendous but the IPS 42LN5300 I tested had "great" input lag, according to this criteria.
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I just got this TV today and I can NOT figure out how to get the 3 screws on the base stand to go in all the way. It keeps wriggling and it not stable enough for me to put the tv on it that way. Any tips?

EDIT: Nevermind. The phillips head I was using was too small.
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what's the best setup for videogames?
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I got the 39LN5300 about a week ago and I am generally pleased with the picture quality but it seems to have some problems.

Whenever there is a large area of bright pure color and vertical scrolling motion (like a camera panning down in a movie or scrolling down a web page), I can see what appears to be uneven areas/ stripes of grey on various parts of the screen. I'd take a picture but it only shows up when the screen is panning.

I also see a oval white blob when the screen is showing a pure black color. I managed to make it go away temporarily when I gently pressed around the area on the screen. It's back but not as large or noticeable, just very unsettling.

Anybody else have these problems? Do you think it is a defect? If it is, I'm thinking of sending it back to Amazon.
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I found something out about my 32ln5300 (and possibly the 39" and 42" versions as well).

Since I do alot of gaming, this TV is perfect for that with its size and features (by size I mean smaller TV's usually provide lower input delay).

So I use PC mode/input label for RGB capable sources as it provides the lowest input lag further than a "game mode" (THE hands-off mode on an LG TV. Also provides working 4:4:4 + audio). If you're not using PC mode when gaming, you are telling the TV to expect YCbCr signals and force its processing features on which create delay.

So that's how I have my TV set for gaming for the most part, but as I poke around after a while, I notice that when in PC mode (maybe outside of PC mode too?), if you do not run (by "run", I mean going into but not applying it) the picture wizard EVERY time you startup the TV, luminance control in CMS won't work and input delay will still be noticeable. Its when you run the picture wizard it enables luminance control to work in CMS and input delay is reduced to where you cannot notice it anymore.

Don't think there is any firmware updates for this TV so it has not been an identified issue, but just something to look for as I was noticing through color bar calibration on my PC.
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I am seriously looking at getting the 42LN5300 for a general TV as well as gaming TV (not really hardcore gaming but still want to get reasonably low law, which it sounds like this should be good for). I was looking at some of the units they had in the local Best Buy and they all showed a code of 42LN5300-UB.BCCYLJR, with different serial numbers (a typical one being 307RMCJ5S971, etc). From what I'm reading it sounds like the Ub.BCCYLJR should be an IPS panel then? (Just want to confirm).

Someone earlier on in the thread was also raising a question about whether there were any additional lag considerations for 720p games (of which there are quite a few on PS3) - is there in fact any significant different there, or should using the Game (or PC mode as suggested above) be good in that case too? I'm not clear on whether one can expect a corresponding model (such as 42LN5700 for example) to have the same lag characteristics or not.
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Back to the USB firmware update for said models (32LN5300-UB, 32LN530B-UA, 39LN5300-UB, etc.), since I have a 32LN5300-UB (I checked the back of the TV and it definitely says 32LN5300-UB made in April 2013) I downloaded the 3.11.13 firmware that is a BIN file and when i do the said instructions (LG_DTV folder with BIN file in it on USB drive) the firmware update page does not show up.

What happens is it detects the USB drive, but goes straight to the options of choosing Music List or Photo List. So is it not specifically saying in the instructions that some models stated for upgraded, are only upgradeable through the 3.5mm stereo plug RS-232C port?

My 2010 32LD450 worked with the instructions above, but this 2013 32LN5300 will not update (not to mention it doesn't have an option in the menu to check model/product type like my 2010 TV did). If true, then LG is afraid of receiving claims about peoples stupidity trying to update the TV on their own and restricting it to RS-232 updating.
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Just hooked up my 39" LG LN5300 to use as a PC monitor and it's a keeper. Every praise that's been mentioned in this thread is true.

$394.00 including shipping and tax from New Egg (Amazon had it for the same but there was a 2-3 week wait backorder even with Prime.) Microcenter carries it for $429 if you want it local.

Even though this is a 39" it actually takes up a little less desktop real estate-- the bezel is tiny compared to the Westinghouse. The screen has a nice punch to it no amount of adjusting could bring to my old screen, and if it doesn't have an IPS panel LG did a good job disguising the fact.

Connection is DVI to HDMI, and you label the input to "PC" mode (I did "Game" first and that didn't produce sharp text.)

I took it through some hardcore gaming like Candy Crush Saga, Farmville, and Words with Friends and there was no noticeable lag or other ripping problems.

IMO this is an excellent replacement-- it really is is the new Westy.

(PS. I know those games aren't hard core.)
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So I just noticed this now on my 42LN5300... is that a dead pixel? Never noticed it before, and I meticulously searched for defective pixels while I could still return it, so it must be new.



Closer (and blurrier look):
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Before I go to the local store and pick one of these up, can anyone comment on the clarity of "text" and "eye strain"? I had a bad experience with a Panasonic LCD 720p around 2005, I believe: Text looked like crap no matter the adjustments given by those who had bought it before me. There were these red hues and other color anomalies that made reading a chore. Also, since I could only sit three feet away, my eyes felt strained despite trying out different backlight levels. I imagine for the time, this set didn't have 444 chroma subsampling and the 720p resolution probably didn't help any, too. So, I'm hoping the LG 32LN5300 will do much better. I still plan on sitting 3 feet away because of the width of my desk.

I went to my PC Richards and Sons to check it out but they no longer carry this model because they think it's from 2012 so it's obsolete in their eyes. Can you believe it. I had to try out the 530B which was 720p. I put my face about two inches away from the screen and waited five minutes to see if I would get eye strain or a low-level headache. Nothing happened so I'm hopeful.

Tralfalmadore, the latest firmware for this set that came out in June is supposed to, according to the LG rep I spoke to last night, "enhance video and audio". Since you thought the colors could be better after calibration, have you noticed an improvement with this new firmware update?

As an aside, a product specialist at B & H Photo recommended these TVs for PC monitor use. He didn't go into the "why's" for his picks but I guess he knows something about it.

*Samsung UN32EH5000

*Viewsonic CDE3201LED 32" LED Professional Display

One more thing, I ran across a highly praised app called "Mactype" that dramatically improves font rendering in Windows. It uses the Linux Freetype engine to do this. I was thinking of trying it out with the TV once I get it. If anyone wants to give it a shot and report back on how text improved or not, here is the link: https://code.google.com/p/mactype/
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My 42LN5300-UB.BUSYLJR is S-IPS, 42LN5300-UB.BUSDLMR is something else (VA?).

I had checked the 42" 5300 model in Target and took a macro photo and saw the Chevron shaped IPS pixels a few days ago. It was $450 though and I saw it for $400 on Amazon and had some gift card money so I ordered it from there. Well it came today and there was a gray spot in the center that I noticed as soon as I turned it on. Like what suade showed above. Plus a macro shot of the pixels showed rectangular ones not the chevron arrows I saw on the same model at Target. Besides the gray dot the display definitely looked good enough to keep though and if it wouldn't have been for that I would have. Doing some research it seemed like a Y 4th from the end might be the IPS panel. Went to Target and had them get a box. If there wasn't a Y I wasn't going to bother paying $50 more, I would have just tried a replacement from Amazon. I did see the Y though so I bought it. Yep S-IPS! No dead or stuck pixels that I can see and no gray dot.

Both boxes. If you want to get an IPS one I guess you want the Y 4th from the end... 42LN5300-UB.BUSYLJR


Gray spot on the Amazon one. Maybe a dust blob under the glossy covering?


42LN5300-UB.BUSDLMR VA Panel?


42LN5300-UB.BUSYLJR S-IPS
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So in watching a movie last night I noticed this IPS paneled one (42LN5300-UB.BUSYLJR) looked like there was some uniformity issues and the screen looked almost dirty in spots (visible during lighter scenes). UGH! So I took the other one (42LN5300-UB.BUSDLMR) back out of the box, since I had packed it up to ship back to Amazon tomorrow. I wanted to see if that panel was better in that regard (didn't really play around with it after I noticed the gray spot). It's much better! Viewing angles seem very good too as does color and black levels. Maybe not having an IPS screen in this TV is the way to go!

Sorta hard to tell from these images but...

IPS one, the whole right side is a bit darker and there are random darker looking blotches.


VA or whatever one. Besides some darkening in the corners and edges very uniform and clean looking image.


Now I guess I have 2 LGs to return. Not sure what to do at this point.
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nojoka, I would return the two sets and buy this model "locally" if you can. When it comes to TVs, I'd rather pick them up at a store than have them shipped to me. Have you seen how some of these delivery drivers handle people's stuff? At least you can pick the panel you want by checking the boxes out yourself. I know one of my local Best Buys, for example, has IPS panels exclusively. I didn't check the other two to see if they had VA panels in stock. I may have to if I want the deeper blacks.
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Anyone know if this panel is the same one used in the 39ln5700? I haven't seen too much info on the 5700 so I thought the 5700 might use the same panel as the 5300 and just adds the smart TV features.
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Anyone know if this panel is the same one used in the 39ln5700? I haven't seen too much info on the 5700 so I thought the 5700 might use the same panel as the 5300 and just adds the smart TV features.

From what I've been able to tell, it looks like the same TV as the 5300 but it's the "smart" version and has 120hz thrown in. The salesman at my local PC Richards and Sons said the same thing.
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From what I've been able to tell, it looks like the same TV as the 5300 but it's the "smart" version and has 120hz thrown in. The salesman at my local PC Richards and Sons said the same thing.

Yea, see that was my confusion at first too. I've seen some sites that list the 5700 as 120hz, but in reality the 5700 is actually only 60hz with Trumotion built in. The confusion arises because only the 32" and 39" sizes in this line are 60hz, the rest(42" on up) are 120hz. That's why I figured the panel was the same as the 5300. That's also why I've had a hard time finding reviews on this model, since it isn't the 120hz version like the bigger sizes.
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Yea, see that was my confusion at first too. I've seen some sites that list the 5700 as 120hz, but in reality the 5700 is actually only 60hz with Trumotion built in. The confusion arises because only the 32" and 39" sizes in this line are 60hz, the rest(42" on up) are 120hz. That's why I figured the panel was the same as the 5300. That's also why I've had a hard time finding reviews on this model, since it isn't the 120hz version like the bigger sizes.

I'm of the opinion that LG is using the same two panels in this set: VA or IPS. I don't know why but I keep seeing the IPS version of this TV and the 5300 in my work area. It looked really nice at the store when I inquired about the 5300. I imagine the calibration settings posted here would be a good starting point for this TV. It's nice that the 5700 already has the apps for Netflix and Hulu installed plus wifi.

I guess if you don't need all those extra features, you could save a few dollars and go for the 39LN5300?
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Does this TV pass Dolby Digital or DTS 5.1 from an HDMI source (DirecTV set top box or PS3) out through the Optical output?
And if it does, what would it send over the Optical output if sent DTS-HD 7.1 from a Bluray movie?
(I have the 39" version if the different sizes handle audio differently.)
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Hey guys, I'm a long time lurker, new time poster. Please let me know if I'll have better luck if I post this in another forum and/or create my own thread for it. I have searched the forums and have found nothing on this issue I am having.

My TV: LG 42LN5700 LED TV -- Set to Game Mode

When I am playing games (I haven't tested this in a movie), if I get to a particularly dark part of a game, the TV completely turns off the backlight and the screen goes black until I get to a lighter part of the game. My only previous experience has been with Plasma and LCD TVs/monitors, so I have never experienced anything like this. Is this common amongst LED backlit TVs? Can this setting be turned off? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Additional information: I am using this LED TV as a computer monitor, with a DVI to HDMI cable. Other than this one odd issue, I've been having no other problems with the set up. If it helps, the two games I have experienced this in so far are Amnesia and Limbo.

Just an added note....when the screen has turned completely black (almost like a sleep mode?), I can hit the settings button on my remote, which brings up the menu, but it also shows the game in the background again.

Here's a screenshot of what I'm talking about. In this image, if I were to walk into the darkness, the only thing I should be able to see is the two dots for the character's eyes (and I see it on my other computer monitor). The TV for some reason decides this is the right time to completely turn off all light. But if I hit the settings button on the remote, I can see the two eyes behind the settings menu on the TV. Like I said, I don't know much about the LED-backlight technology, but it almost seems like there is some kind of dynamic backlighting that is not working the way it's supposed to. I'd love to be able to turn it off, but no luck so far.



Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me. And please let me know if you need any further clarification.
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Hey guys, I'm a long time lurker, new time poster. Please let me know if I'll have better luck if I post this in another forum and/or create my own thread for it. I have searched the forums and have found nothing on this issue I am having.

My TV: LG 42LN5700 LED TV -- Set to Game Mode

When I am playing games (I haven't tested this in a movie), if I get to a particularly dark part of a game, the TV completely turns off the backlight and the screen goes black until I get to a lighter part of the game. My only previous experience has been with Plasma and LCD TVs/monitors, so I have never experienced anything like this. Is this common amongst LED backlit TVs? Can this setting be turned off? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Additional information: I am using this LED TV as a computer monitor, with a DVI to HDMI cable. Other than this one odd issue, I've been having no other problems with the set up. If it helps, the two games I have experienced this in so far are Amnesia and Limbo.

Just an added note....when the screen has turned completely black (almost like a sleep mode?), I can hit the settings button on my remote, which brings up the menu, but it also shows the game in the background again.

Here's a screenshot of what I'm talking about. In this image, if I were to walk into the darkness, the only thing I should be able to see is the two dots for the character's eyes (and I see it on my other computer monitor). The TV for some reason decides this is the right time to completely turn off all light. But if I hit the settings button on the remote, I can see the two eyes behind the settings menu on the TV. Like I said, I don't know much about the LED-backlight technology, but it almost seems like there is some kind of dynamic backlighting that is not working the way it's supposed to. I'd love to be able to turn it off, but no luck so far.



Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me. And please let me know if you need any further clarification.

Did you shut off "Dynamic Contrast"? That's the first thing I'd check. Also, did you get the latest firmware update? This issue may be addressed with an update. If these two suggestions don't fix your problem, I'm going to assume your panel is malfunctioning and it's time to exchange it or call LG for help on getting it repaired.
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I have been using the 32ln530b for a week now. This is the 720p version. I have watched baseball,tennis, football, all with little to no motion blur during fast action. Very surprised considering it only has 60htz. The code on my box reads ua.busylwm , perhaps I got an ips panel. Off angle viewing is pretty good . Are ips panels supposed to be good with motion? Ibought it for less than 245$ . Thanks for any info.
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Did you shut off "Dynamic Contrast"? That's the first thing I'd check. Also, did you get the latest firmware update? This issue may be addressed with an update. If these two suggestions don't fix your problem, I'm going to assume your panel is malfunctioning and it's time to exchange it or call LG for help on getting it repaired.
I'm at work right now, but I'm pretty sure Dynamic Contrast is off. I would have gone through all video settings, turning things on and off, then trying Limbo again, so I'm pretty sure I've tried things with it both on and off. I'll try it again when I get home though. I'll also check for a firmware update.

The TV was free with my Telus Internet package, so unfortunately, it's not a matter of just taking it back to the store.
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My 32" Sony Bravia bit the dust and I purchased the LG 39LN5300 through Dell, have had it for 4 days. It has been a huge disappointment from the beginning. The picture quality is nothing like the Sony and anytime there is movement in the picture there's a lag in clarifying the picture. I have applied some recommended calibrations from websites, they improve the picture only when the picture is at a reduced size. I didn't buy a 39" tv to watch programming at 29". Many comments here say this tv is best used for pc applications, have I purchased the wrong product just to watch tv? Thanks for any input.
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My 32" Sony Bravia bit the dust and I purchased the LG 39LN5300 through Dell, have had it for 4 days. It has been a huge disappointment from the beginning. The picture quality is nothing like the Sony and anytime there is movement in the picture there's a lag in clarifying the picture. I have applied some recommended calibrations from websites, they improve the picture only when the picture is at a reduced size. I didn't buy a 39" tv to watch programming at 29". Many comments here say this tv is best used for pc applications, have I purchased the wrong product just to watch tv? Thanks for any input.

Try the calibration settings Tralfamadore left. He used a spectrometer and did the best he could to make it as reference as possible. He has the same exact model as yours:

Backlight: 40 (I calibrated for a brighter screen(50 FTL) than the standard(30-40). Reducing backlight by 10-15 will bring you closer to 40 FTL)
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 50
H/V sharpness: 10/10 (defaults were perfect for 1080p sources, may need to change depending on different source)
Color: 50
Tint: 0

Expert Controls-
Color Gamut: Wide
Gamma: 2.2
Color temperature: Warm 2
2 point high point: 5R, 0G, -3B

CMS controls-
Red: 4, -4, 0
Green: 0, -5, 0
Blue: -1, 5, 0
Cyan: default
Magenta: 0, -4, 0
Yellow: 0, 5, 0

20 point IRE settings:
5: 2, 0, -9
10: 3, 0, -11
15: -3, -5, 2
20: -21, -23, -13
25: -19, -20, -16
30: -21, -23, -24
35: -24, -24, -27
40: -24, -26, -26
45: -26, -26, -26
50: -23, -25, -21
55: -24, -26, -22
60: -24, -25, -24
65: -21, -26, -23
70: -20, -23, -19
75: -15, -14, -12
80: -15, -11, -3
85: -15, -11, -3
90: -14, -8, 1
95: -10, -5, 6
100: -10, 0, 1
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Thanks a bunch, Citric_Acid. The firmware update took care of the problem.
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