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Is the 75" F8000 really that much sharper than the F7100? Does anyone have both sets and confirm? The only ones I had access to were the 75" F7100 and the 65" F8000, and the F8000 was a little more sharp, but it was also on a 65" screen. Not a fair comparison.

Also, for this size and price point, is this TV still considered the one with the best picture quality? Its going in my media room where the nice tv goes. So I want it to have the best picture quality that it can.

I originally purchased a 75 inch F7100. Was pretty happy with the TV, but I could not stop fighting the urge to upgrade to the F8000. Ultimately I decided to exchange my F7100 for a F8000. Here are my thoughts based on my time with both sets.

1. Responsiveness - the F8000's quad core processor in makes a huge difference in responsiveness. I found the F7100 sluggish at times when navigating menus or opening apps. The F8000 has no such issues.

2. Picture Quality - this was the most important factor for me. The PQ of the 7100 was pretty good. But the F8000's PQ is simply outstanding. At one point I had both tvs set up next to each other and the difference in PQ was quite apparent to me. This is probably due to the more advanced micro-dimming capability of the F8000. Also be aware that the "Cinema Black" option is not available on the 75 inch version of the F7100. My F7100 also suffered from noticeable clouding while the F8000 has not had this issue. However, every set will be different. I've seen a few owners in the F8000 forum with sets exhibiting uniformity issues.

3. Aesthetics - the build quality is noticeably better on the F8000. I also appreciate the thinner profile of the F8000 and the ultra slim bezel.

4. Evo Kit - the F8000 can be upgraded using the Evo kit while the F7100 cannot. Not a huge factor, but I like the option.

Funny thing is that my original plan was to buy the 75 inch F6400. I didn't want to spend too much money now, especially with the arrival of UHD sets. However, I'm completely satisfied with my F8000 purchase. But of course I'm looking forward to the day I can eventually replace it with a 80+ inch UHD OLED set!
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I originally purchased a 75 inch F7100. Was pretty happy with the TV, but I could not stop fighting the urge to upgrade to the F8000. Ultimately I decided to exchange my F7100 for a F8000. Here are my thoughts based on my time with both sets.

1. Responsiveness - the F8000's quad core processor in makes a huge difference in responsiveness. I found the F7100 sluggish at times when navigating menus or opening apps. The F8000 has no such issues.

2. Picture Quality - this was the most important factor for me. The PQ of the 7100 was pretty good. But the F8000's PQ is simply outstanding. At one point I had both tvs set up next to each other and the difference in PQ was quite apparent to me. This is probably due to the more advanced micro-dimming capability of the F8000. Also be aware that the "Cinema Black" option is not available on the 75 inch version of the F7100. My F7100 also suffered from noticeable clouding while the F8000 has not had this issue. However, every set will be different. I've seen a few owners in the F8000 forum with sets exhibiting uniformity issues.

3. Aesthetics - the build quality is noticeably better on the F8000. I also appreciate the thinner profile of the F8000 and the ultra slim bezel.

4. Evo Kit - the F8000 can be upgraded using the Evo kit while the F7100 cannot. Not a huge factor, but I like the option.

Funny thing is that my original plan was to buy the 75 inch F6400. I didn't want to spend too much money now, especially with the arrival of UHD sets. However, I'm completely satisfied with my F8000 purchase. But of course I'm looking forward to the day I can eventually replace it with a 80+ inch UHD OLED set!

I'm in the same situation myself, going between the 7100, 7500 and 8000. Did you give any thought to the 7500 instead of the 8000, since there's some smaller differences between the two than between the 7100 and the 8000?
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I'm in the same situation myself, going between the 7100, 7500 and 8000. Did you give any thought to the 7500 instead of the 8000, since there's some smaller differences between the two than between the 7100 and the 8000?

I honestly didn't consider the F7500, since it wasn't available in a 75 inch size. But the specs look nice, microdimming pro, quad core processor and Evo kit ready. Amazon.com has a great chart showing the differences across the models.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN55F7500-55-Inch-1080p-240Hz/dp/B00BCGROG4
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Well, it sounds like I must've gotten lucky with my CSR giving me black Friday pricing early. Guess it's just luck of the draw on who you get to help you. Figured I would share my experience anyway. Regardless where you get it from, there is some great pricing coming up on all of Samsungs TVs. Samsung does free shipping too, btw.

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I originally purchased a 75 inch F7100. Was pretty happy with the TV, but I could not stop fighting the urge to upgrade to the F8000. Ultimately I decided to exchange my F7100 for a F8000. Here are my thoughts based on my time with both sets.

1. Responsiveness - the F8000's quad core processor in makes a huge difference in responsiveness. I found the F7100 sluggish at times when navigating menus or opening apps. The F8000 has no such issues.

2. Picture Quality - this was the most important factor for me. The PQ of the 7100 was pretty good. But the F8000's PQ is simply outstanding. At one point I had both tvs set up next to each other and the difference in PQ was quite apparent to me. This is probably due to the more advanced micro-dimming capability of the F8000. Also be aware that the "Cinema Black" option is not available on the 75 inch version of the F7100. My F7100 also suffered from noticeable clouding while the F8000 has not had this issue. However, every set will be different. I've seen a few owners in the F8000 forum with sets exhibiting uniformity issues.

3. Aesthetics - the build quality is noticeably better on the F8000. I also appreciate the thinner profile of the F8000 and the ultra slim bezel.

4. Evo Kit - the F8000 can be upgraded using the Evo kit while the F7100 cannot. Not a huge factor, but I like the option.

This is good info. I appreciate. The thing is budget. I can go with the 65" 8000 and save money over the 75" 7100. Im having a hard time deciding. Items 1, 3 and 4 couldnt be further down on my list of things I care about. Which means item 2 has to be justified by 2000 extra dollars....thats nearly another TV. Ive read a lot about the 7100 having the nicer picture, so I just don't know what to do. I have not been able to seen the two 75" side by side. I was able to see a 65" 8000 next to a 75" 7100 and the difference was hardly noticeable to me, but that doesnt mean much. I don't know. I can just barely justify 4,000 on a TV...LOL.

I wonder why 'cinema black' is not available on the 75" TV? Seems to me its simply a firmware upgrade away.
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I swear the f7100 and the PlayStation 4 is a match made in heaven omg this picture quality and fluidity is just amazing to me good times
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This is good info. I appreciate. The thing is budget. I can go with the 65" 8000 and save money over the 75" 7100. Im having a hard time deciding. Items 1, 3 and 4 couldnt be further down on my list of things I care about. Which means item 2 has to be justified by 2000 extra dollars....thats nearly another TV. Ive read a lot about the 7100 having the nicer picture, so I just don't know what to do. I have not been able to seen the two 75" side by side. I was able to see a 65" 8000 next to a 75" 7100 and the difference was hardly noticeable to me, but that doesnt mean much. I don't know. I can just barely justify 4,000 on a TV...LOL.

I wonder why 'cinema black' is not available on the 75" TV? Seems to me its simply a firmware upgrade away.

If I had to choose between a 75 inch F7100 and a 65 inch F8000, I'd probably get the F7100. I'd prefer the increased screen real estate over the PQ difference.

$2,000 is definitely a large price spread. I initially gave myself a max $5k budget and the F7100 seemed like the perfect choice. But when Samsung temporarily dropped the MSRP of the F8000 to $5999 (along with Best Buy giving me a no sales tax promo), I jumped on the deal.

Good luck with your decision. You really can't go wrong with either model.
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Is the 75" F8000 really that much sharper than the F7100? Does anyone have both sets and confirm? The only ones I had access to were the 75" F7100 and the 65" F8000, and the F8000 was a little more sharp, but it was also on a 65" screen. Not a fair comparison.

Also, for this size and price point, is this TV still considered the one with the best picture quality? Its going in my media room where the nice tv goes. So I want it to have the best picture quality that it can.


They are both nice TV's. You didn't mention distance from tv for viewing. For me that would be the decideing factor (if I wanted to save $2000). If it was 8 or 10' I would go for the 65'. If it was 12' or more, I would go for the 75".
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Its about 11-12 feet, and its a dedicated area for TV. Its not like a living room or bedroom. Is there any reason NOT to expect a firmware update for the 75" 7100 that will include the cinema black feature?
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As of today, you can pre-order these on samsung.com at the discounted prices.  It seems like their deal is to have you pre-order in the next 3 days, then get the TV sometime prior to the holidays, whatever that means.  I wonder if this deal means Amazon will match today (since you can officially order today at the discounted price)?  Or can I walk into Best Buy and get them to match?

 

I don't have time today to try, but if anyone does try and has any luck, let me know :)

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Can't preorder until 11/24.
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Can't preorder until 11/24.

 

According to the website, you have to order before 11/23 to get the discounted price.

 

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You have a link because mine stays prices valid 11/24-12/2. What am I missing. Also see no discounted prices on amazon or any retailer. ??
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just go to samsung.com.  I think you have to have an account (free) to see the deals.

 

<edit> - maybe the preorder is just to guarantee the price.  It is wierd that if not logged into Samsung, it says prices valid 11/24 - 12/2.

 

Discounted prices are not yet available on Amazon or any retailer.  That is why I was wondering if they would match the Samsung preorder.

 

I also think these deals will be in Costco all week, starting Sunday (just my gut feeling, but Costco has advertised deals on Samsung TV's all next week.)

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I found it. I have it added to my reserve list. I was just kind of hoping to buy from Crutchfield.
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ok all...need some advice as I prepare to buy.

 

I have a limited budget ($2K tops).  I have decided I want this TV, but I would also like a decent soundbar or something to go along with it.  So my options are $65" TV with no audio system, or 60" and purchase a $200-$300 audit system (thinking the Vizio s4251w).

 

I sit about 10'-12' from the TV, which will be above a fireplace.

 

if I get the 60" will I regret the size?  I realize it is a 17% size difference, but how noticeable will it be?

 

Thanks.

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So is it safe...REALLY SAFE...to say that samsung is absolutely dropping the price for these starting on 11/24 and that all retailers should be matching that price at the same time? Im asking because I can essentially order the TV now online and be covered under the 60 price protection when it drops.
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So is it safe...REALLY SAFE...to say that samsung is absolutely dropping the price for these starting on 11/24 and that all retailers should be matching that price at the same time? Im asking because I can essentially order the TV now online and be covered under the 60 price protection when it drops.

 

haha.  That is my exact thinking.  Order anywhere (like Amazon) then bank on the fact that they will price protect.  My personal opinion is that it is 80% safe.  I think most retailers will have the TV's on the sale price starting Sunday (when Samsung does I guess), but some stores like Best Buy are advertising these prices for only black friday weekend.  (Amazon has not announced anything yet that I know of).  Costco only says discounts on TV's all week.

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Dude....its a 500 dollar gamble! frown.gif
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Dude....its a 500 dollar gamble! frown.gif

 

yeah.  That is why I hoped someone would match samsung right away.  I called Best Buy and they said probably not, but its up to the individual store.  Haven't tried amazon yet.

 

I'm gonna walk into Costco after work tonight and ask if they will tell me their prices next week :)

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Hello all,

 

My friend was talking about buying a new calibration device for his photography. I am going to buy the 60'' F7100 next week and I was wondering if this product could be used to calibrate such an LED HDTV, or if it is meant for laptop screens or smaller LCD's only. I do not have much knowledge in this regard but if this is a possibility I would like to invest time to learn.

 

http://www.xrite.com/colormunki-design

 

Color Munki.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

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Will take delivery of my Samsung 55F7100 on Monday of next week. White gloves delivery and setup performed by the retailer. Given some of the issues reflected in this thread, what should I test to confirm the HDTV is functioning to spec before I accept delivery and send the tech's on their way?
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I swear the f7100 and the PlayStation 4 is a match made in heaven omg this picture quality and fluidity is just amazing to me good times

Sounds great.....I might go next generation in 2014.

I'm waiting for that must have title.....
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ok all...need some advice as I prepare to buy.

I have a limited budget ($2K tops).  I have decided I want this TV, but I would also like a decent soundbar or something to go along with it.  So my options are $65" TV with no audio system, or 60" and purchase a $200-$300 audit system (thinking the Vizio s4251w).

I sit about 10'-12' from the TV, which will be above a fireplace.

if I get the 60" will I regret the size?  I realize it is a 17% size difference, but how noticeable will it be?

Thanks.

IMO, the six inch difference is significant. I want instant gratification as much as the next guy, but it might be worth buying the 65" now and waiting a bit to buy a soundbar. Or, you may find that black Friday pricing allows you to buy the larger tv and the sound bar and stay within your budget.

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Thanks.  That is sort of the conclusion I came to.  If I get the bigger TV, my wife doesn't want a soundbar as well (thinks too much above the mantle), but I hopefully I can work out a different sound solution later on. 

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Sounds great.....I might go next generation in 2014.

I'm waiting for that must have title.....
Yea I was gonna hold out but I couldn't resist on getting one day one Lol but I promise u u will b blown away by it especially if u on ps4
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Hi i see these in the advertised in Best Buy's Black Friday Ad and see the 65, 60 & 55 as being on sale. Is it safe to assume the 46 will also be on sale, as i narrowed it down to 55 or 46 ? Thanks
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SAMSUNG pre-order will still charge me tax. Guess I can wait for Crutchfield after all!
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Hello all,

My friend was talking about buying a new calibration device for his photography. I am going to buy the 60'' F7100 next week and I was wondering if this product could be used to calibrate such an LED HDTV, or if it is meant for laptop screens or smaller LCD's only. I do not have much knowledge in this regard but if this is a possibility I would like to invest time to learn.

http://www.xrite.com/colormunki-design

Color Munki.

Thanks for your help in advance.


http://www.avsforum.com/t/1215746/colormunki-how-good-or-how-bad

Yes, it can be used. You'll need to find calibration software that supports it. I don't think the popular freebie open source software does; HFCR, you'll wan't to check. However I'm pretty sure the commercial software CalMan does support it. I think that thread covers all of this smile.gif

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Will take delivery of my Samsung 55F7100 on Monday of next week. White gloves delivery and setup performed by the retailer. Given some of the issues reflected in this thread, what should I test to confirm the HDTV is functioning to spec before I accept delivery and send the tech's on their way?

 



I am also curious about this question: "what should I test to confirm the HDTV is functioning to spec before I accept delivery and send the tech's on their way?"

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http://www.avsforum.com/t/1215746/colormunki-how-good-or-how-bad



Yes, it can be used. You'll need to find calibration software that supports it. I don't think the popular freebie open source software does; HFCR, you'll wan't to check. However I'm pretty sure the commercial software CalMan does support it. I think that thread covers all of this smile.gif

 



SiGGy, thanks for the info, I will go read the thread now.
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