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Hey guys,
So i finally got my approval for warranty replacement on my now dead Pioneer 60'' Kuro.
So i need to get a TV asap and i'm having trouble deciding. Money is no factor in regards to the following sets i will be mentioning.
My 4 choices are :
- Samsung UN75F7100
- Sony XBR65X900A 4k
- Panasonic ZT 65''
-Samsunf UN65F8000

So here are my issues.
As much as i love Plasma's i can't stand the glare anymore. My Kuro was almost unwatchable in the daytime.
I know that the Panny will probably give me the best black levels and probably PQ of the bunch.
I'm not so interested in PQ that much anymore. I mean i definitely want good PQ but i don't need to have the absolute best out there like i did with my Kuro.
What's important to me as well is the '' Smart Hub'' or Menu system and features that tv's come with.
The Samsung seems to have the best of the bunch.
But can anyone comment on the Sony and Panny one?
And lastly size. I found that my 60'' Pioneer had gotten small. I wanted to go big this time.
75'' seems like a fantastic size!
65'' doesn't seem like such a step up from my 60'' in terms of size.

The Sony and Panny are available now where as the Samsung's are only available in June in Canada which is a big problem for me.

All the help and opinons would be greatly appreciated.
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The panny's smart hub is terrible. Samsung defintley has the best smart options of all TV's.

Plasma's have much better filters for glare today then they did a few years back. Why not look at the Samsung F8500 plasma? It gets almost as bright as LED's, handles glare well and has all the smart bells and whistles you can get out of a TV. Blacks might not be as dark as a top of the line Panny but the difference is so small who really cares.
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Ya i've heard the Panny's Smart hub is not that good.
I have a 5000$ credit applied towards a TV only so i have to take advantage of that.
The Sammy Plasma is fairly cheap in price so i would be losing quite a bit of $$ value there...
Thanks for the advice!
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Anyone else?
Need to make a decision ASAP and any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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The ZT's filter is amazing. I just ordered mine today


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I hear ya. I'm just really hesitant in going Plasma again...
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Because it's in an extremely bright room, image retention is not something i want to think about even though i'm sure they are now much better then they used to be.
How is the thickness on the ZT?
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I think 2" thickest point. The VE shootout showed bc of the amazing filter on the ZT the picture was nearly unaffected by lighting


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Ya i've heard the Panny's Smart hub is not that good.
I have a 5000$ credit applied towards a TV only so i have to take advantage of that.
The Sammy Plasma is fairly cheap in price so i would be losing quite a bit of $$ value there...
Thanks for the advice!
I don't think I would buy a lesser quality TV because it cost more. I would buy the best TV that is in that price range. You listed the 65F8000. Price of that is the same as the F8500 but the 8500 will proabaly give you a better pic. The ZT series supposedly offers less light output then the lower models so not sure how good of a choice that is in a lit room.

The 7100 will probably offer worse pq but 75" is nice : )
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The 65F8000 and the F8500 are the cheapest of the bunch.
I've read that the light output on the Panny is not that great so ya that might not be the best option.
Though the 7100 might give me slighter less picture quality then the others, 75'' is just sooo nice!!
Problem is no one can give me a release time frame on that tv which sucks!
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The panny makes up for it with the incredible panel


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Everyone seems to be pushing the Panny...
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Based on the TVs you've listed, I'd consider the 75" Samsung and the 65" Panasonic as the best options. The ZT60 will give you the closest picture quality you've become accustomed to. Don't be too dismayed with the comments on Panasonic's smart integration either, they have very competent software that performs swiftly on the higher end Panasonic sets. That said, the Samsung smart interface is more attractive and it is more capable with it's ability to sync with your existing cable equipment. The best argument for the 75" Samsung, though, is it's sheer size. Going from a 60" to a 75" will be a jarring difference and it will definitely will be satisfying in the short term. I would be concerned, though, how the F7100 handles flashlighting and blooming which seems to be a problem that plagues most all large edge lit LCDs. Concerning reflections, I've found that the top level plasmas (those with light filters) handle reflections and glare better than nearly all glossy LCD screens I've seen. The ZT60 probably has the most aggressive and effective ambient light filter among modern televisions.

You mentioned a $5000 TV credit alternative to the models you listed. If that is that case, I'd recommend the Samsung 64F8500 and the Panasonic VT60 over the models you've listed. Both have effective light filters and will provide picture quality in the class of the Pioneer Kuro. The Samsung is brightest among any new plasma and the VT60 can achieve the dark levels of the ZT, but can also get brighter and includes a built in camera (the ZT does not). If I were in your situation, I'd take as long as I could on deciding what was most important to "me." Size and features is a great thing to have, but the honey moon wears fast and soon picture quality is going to be what resonates most. In my opinion, I believe both the VT60 and the F8500 provide a picture quality is significantly better than the F7100 and would satisfy you most in the long run.
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Too bad you didn't get a 70" Sharp Elite while they were still available. Or maybe you could still find one; might be worth a try.

I sympathize with you on the glare issue. I have a 65" LG LW6500 which truly is a mirror. That one is now in the living room, replaced by a 70" edge-lit Sharp in my HT, which is far, far better in that regard. Better blacks and contrast too, though not so good as plasma, obviously. Still, pretty good with any ambient lighting on.

I hesitate to say (since you're a Kuro owner), but if you want big, perhaps you should at least have a look at the 80" or 90" eek.gif Sharps. Yes, edge-lit LED (at least this year's 80", dunno about the 90"), but what could it hurt to have a look? Last year's models in 80 and 90 were full-array, IIRC.

I'm agnostic in the panel debate. I dislike the generally inferior blacks (hence: contrast ratio) and motion of most LCDs. But I'm also quite sensitive to phosphor trails and dithering of plasma. (BTW, I have an older plasma in my study). Still waiting for the perfect TV. wink.gif
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So i've finally decided to go for the Samsung UN75F8000 LED.
After some back and forth i really wanted to go for size.
Spent a few hundred bucks out of pocket and opted for the 8000 instead of the 7100. Haven't seen either at the store and i'm guessing going from 60" to 75" is going to be a thrill!
The 65" sets just did not seem much bigger then my Pioneer.
Though the PQ won't be as great as the Pioneer i think going for the top of the line Samsung will get me as close as i can get in that size.
If they made the Panny in 75" i'd probably had gone with that one.
Set should ship on June 3rd and get here that same week.
Here's hoping i love it. Because if i don't , even though i have a 30 day return policy i really won't know what to get!
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You will love it. Very similar in specs and PQ to last years UN75ES9000 and should even be a bit better. To me, those are the top of the line in terms of led in the 70+ inch range.
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Awesome! I really hope so!

And at the end of the day it cost me about 600$ out of pocket to go from F7100 to F8000. Do you think it's worth it?
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For the 75 inch? Definitely worth it, that's a good deal imo
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