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Isn't Sony promising to upgrade the X900A to HDMI 2.0?

And H 265 is just for 4K video streaming - from Netflix, etc. - correct?

I am not sure what Extended Dynamic Range is exactly...?

Are there any other differences between the X900A and X900B? (Other than the positioning of the speakers and the new "wedge" shape...)
The set you are purchasing will have HDMI 2.0. The " Extended Dynamic Range" is a new feature to make the colors really pop at you. It make the blacks more black and the whites whiter which in turn makes the color brighter. I saw a Sony rep at CES 2014 said they added that feature because the feedback they got from customers was that the picture was not as bright as they thought it would be. H.265 is important going forward all the new peripherals will have that codec and your set will have to have that chip to get the image to your screen. I'm sure you will be able to purchase decoders from third party companies if you do not get the upgraded media player which will be called X2 or X1B.
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The 65" X900A was originally "listed" at $7,000 - but sold/is selling for $5,000...

I am hoping for the same type of reduction in the 79"..... maybe $6,999...?

But, yeah... the only reason the 65" looked small(ish) is because it was right next to a 70"...
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It is believed that the Chinese companies, Hisense and TCL, will be so competitive that the major brands will be forced to reduce prices to stay in the game. I hope so cuz I have my eyes on the 79 900B
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The 79 900B is $8000.The Sharp has some negatives. The HDMI 1.4 is not upgradable by firmware. The screen is matte finish, and in my opinion, not much better than a 1080p set.

 

Does Dynamic Contrast Ratio really mean anything?

 

Because the Sony is 1 million to 1 and the Sharp is 10 million to one...

 

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Does Dynamic Contrast Ratio really mean anything?

Because the Sony is 1 million to 1 and the Sharp is 10 million to one...

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I read once in an article by a MIT( Mass Institute of Technology) professor that said enhancing dynamic contrast ratio will give you a better picture than adding more pixels. She was asked if 4K will give you a better picture than a 1080p set. That was her answer. The tech writers are not adding much until they get their hands on an actual set to see if its just another marketing gimmick or it really gives you a better picture. The proof is in the pudding. It seems Sony is making a concerted effort to be No.1.
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Anyone get a chance to watch House of Cards on Netflix to see if the 4K streaming is an option?
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Hi, I recently purchased Sony XBR65X900A and noticed the following issue. When the TV displays something with static images having fine detail and high contrast (like commercials adds) the image flashes/flickers . Not the whole screen, just the part/block with the high detail/contrast. I have tried different setting but the issue is still there. Not sure what is the right term for this issue so was not able to find discussion related to this issue. Any help will be appreciated

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Anyone get a chance to watch House of Cards on Netflix to see if the 4K streaming is an option?

Just checked and it is 1080 HD.
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Hi, I recently purchased Sony XBR65X900A and noticed the following issue. When the TV displays something with static images having fine detail and high contrast (like commercials adds) the image flashes/flickers . Not the whole screen, just the part/block with the high detail/contrast. I have tried different setting but the issue is still there. Not sure what is the right term for this issue so was not able to find discussion related to this issue. Any help will be appreciated

Check that sharpness and reality creation (especially) aren't set too high and edge/detail enhancement is off. Options-->Picture Adjustments

This won't clear it entirely especially on some clothes fabrics.
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Hi, I recently purchased Sony XBR65X900A and noticed the following issue. When the TV displays something with static images having fine detail and high contrast (like commercials adds) the image flashes/flickers . Not the whole screen, just the part/block with the high detail/contrast. I have tried different setting but the issue is still there. Not sure what is the right term for this issue so was not able to find discussion related to this issue. Any help will be appreciated

 

I would make sure the following settings are all Off:

 

- Auto light limiter (Controls the backlight to reduce excessive brightness in bright scenes)

- Adv Contrast Enhancer (Automatically adjusts tje contrast based on picture brightness)

- Light Sensor (Optimize brightness according to ambient light)

 

Anything that automatically adjusts something has the potential to cause PQ variability.

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Watched Super 8 earlier. All those night exteriors and gloomy interiors are a real torture test in terms of black response, but my 55" (gamma set at 2.2) passed with flying colours, with rich, deep blacks and finely graded shadow detail that showed no banding whatsoever.

And I dunno if something changed since the most recent firmware update, or maybe it was just because I recalibrated it for the umpteenth time (it's like a sickness!), but the side lighting seems to have calmed waaaaay down too.

This TV just gets better and better.
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Well I'm sold, from what I have read here, it is a really nice panel. Sure it might not have fald like my 925 but it makes up for it with more pixels. I suppose at around 5g it's a good buy. I'll get the new media player when released in oz. hopefully the bigger screen will satisfy my appetite. Thanks guys for your comments. I'll post my results when I get it next week.
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Watched Super 8 earlier. All those night exteriors and gloomy interiors are a real torture test in terms of black response, but my 55" (gamma set at 2.2) passed with flying colours, with rich, deep blacks and finely graded shadow detail that showed no banding whatsoever.

And I dunno if something changed since the most recent firmware update, or maybe it was just because I recalibrated it for the umpteenth time (it's like a sickness!), but the side lighting seems to have calmed waaaaay down too.

This TV just gets better and better.

Geoff, I'll ask again, and it apologize for being persistent. Can you share with us where your settings have changed? For example, what settings differ from the ones which I have posted?
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The X900A is already HDMI 2.0. Just not any devices that we can use to test this.

h.265 (HEVC) isn't a deal breaker to have built in. Its nice to have as a smart tv, but I'm guessing within a year, most people will have 2-3 devices attached to their sets that do this for 4k streaming anyhow (e.g ps4, apple tv, blu-ray players, etc).

The one thing that the X900B has nice over the X900A is the enhanced brightness.

Its really the X950 series that will have all the bells and whistles that make a big jump from the A series - and you'll pay for it as well.

 

It is also my understanding that the new X900B will have a new touch pad type remote.

 

And the 65" and 79" will come with the 4K player included.

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It is also my understanding that the new X900B will have a new touch pad type remote.

And the 65" and 79" will come with the 4K player included.

That remote will only really be useful if it can control devices other than Sony or CEC attached devices. Otherwise, something like a Harmony will be more useful. I wouldn't mind the remotes that came with the A's if they were universal...
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Hi do you still have the screen shot of the sony website, Sony are adamant that they have not and do not state full hd 3d for the 55 inch tv. I am having a running battle with them. Showing them their screen would close the issue.
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Hi do you still have the screen shot of the sony website, Sony are adamant that they have not and do not state full hd 3d for the 55 inch tv. I am having a running battle with them. Showing them their screen would close the issue.

 

You can always try the Internet Archive Wayback Machine...

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OK...

 

So now I am trying to find an AVR and a Blu-ray player that are HDMI 2.0 - to go with the X900A - and am having a hard time...

 

Is 2.0 just too new yet...?

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If an avr states it has 4k pass through is it hdmi 2.0? Or how about a bru ray player which up scales to 4k? I have no idea......lol

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Geoff, I'll ask again, and it apologize for being persistent. Can you share with us where your settings have changed? For example, what settings differ from the ones which I have posted?

Hi Jerry, I'll post them later today. It's just a tweak here and a tweak there, nothing special.
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HDMI 2.0 was just finalized in September. Its only important for 4K@60p content.

4K upscaling receivers and blu-ray players have been around for a few years now. They are limited to 4K@30p with HDMI 1.4.

Do you need 60p? Probably not when you consider current 1080p Blu-ray doesn't even support it. Movies are 24p. But 60p is important if you plan to use a PC at 4K.
Yep well that's of no interest to me.....sweet

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The new Nvidia 8xx series is due in q3 2014. So pretty sure we will see hdmi 2.0 on a gpu finally.

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HDMI 2.0 was just finalized in September. Its only important for 4K@60p content.

4K upscaling receivers and blu-ray players have been around for a few years now. They are limited to 4K@30p with HDMI 1.4.

Do you need 60p? Probably not when you consider current 1080p Blu-ray doesn't even support it. Movies are 24p. But 60p is important if you plan to use a PC at 4K.

 

It is also my understanding that 60p is important for some TV viewing on a 4K TV as well...?

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If we ever get 4K broadcasts then HDMI 2.0 might be important.

But for now its irrelevant to TV viewing.

This is absolutely right, at the present time the only benefit of HDMI 2.0 is PC 4K gaming @60p. Which some owners of 4K tv's mentioned it looked outstanding. As for receivers and Bluray players, they will implement them as a future proof option when 4K broadcast /4K Blurays are available. Right now 4K up scaling receivers/bluray players are pointless because 4K tv's already do the up scaling. It is best to just set them to 4K pass-through and let the TV do the up scaling.

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So, in other words, those of us who are looking to buy this TV, along with a new AVR and blu-ray player to take FULL advantage of this TV's HDMI 2.0, etc...

 

Are in limbo for now...?

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So, in other words, those of us who are looking to buy this TV, along with a new AVR and blu-ray player to take FULL advantage of this TV's HDMI 2.0, etc...

Are in limbo for now...?


That's right , you are basically future proofing your setup, unless you own a powerful HTPC that can handle it, to play games on it, But at the moment there aren't any receivers/bluray players with HDMI 2.0. You will still enjoy 4k content that is available though, just not anything at 60p.

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LOL, I am a pretty intelligent guy - but have absolutely NO idea what that article meant...

 

 

 

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LOL, I am a pretty intelligent guy - but have absolutely NO idea what that article meant...



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LOL...among other things, it mentions the current state of the proposals for the ATSC 3.0 standard, which includes specifications for UHD broadcasts.
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LOL, I am a pretty intelligent guy - but have absolutely NO idea what that article meant...



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I had a hard time with it too - but I got this out of it...

They want to enable broadcasters to watermark the signals they are sending down stream to help devices that receive their signal via some uncompressed manner over HDMI (vs antenna?) identify resource links (URLs?) for interactive content to help 'enhance' the broadcast.

Or is this just a way for them to get macrovision or some other DRM on all broadcasts? Dunno..

Interesting that its 'part of' the ATSC 3.0 standard - I couldn't find more info on whether or not that standard includes 2160p as a format or not...
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