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For those with the x1, do the movies have the black bars like most blu rays?
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No difference. Depends on the movie and the aspect ratio it was shot in.
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No difference. Depends on the movie and the aspect ratio it was shot in.

Thanks! Seems like all of the ones I have seen were free of the black bars.
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Hey guys, I've been following this forum for quite a while now, first post. I just ordered the 65 900a today and I'm super excited and can't wait to get my meat hooks on it lol. I just had a question I was hoping someone could assist with. The tv will be mounted on the wall and I just want to be extra careful. What mount are you guys using, any help would be appreciated, thanks guys.
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Hey guys, I've been following this forum for quite a while now, first post. I just ordered the 65 900a today and I'm super excited and can't wait to get my meat hooks on it lol. I just had a question I was hoping someone could assist with. The tv will be mounted on the wall and I just want to be extra careful. What mount are you guys using, any help would be appreciated, thanks guys.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1473062/official-sony-x9-xbr-55x900a-xbr-65x900a-owners-thread/6240#post_24533968
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thanks nishant786 smile.gif let us know if you find something, i'm glad to hear i wasnt the only one thinking that. lol oh and about the scene in transformers? defenatly! i have it in bluray 3d and havent gotten a chance to see it on my 65", just on my previous 55" and it was epic on then. Cant wait to try it on the X9 65". So many titles, so little time lol biggrin.gif

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Had you kept the X1 and returned the TV, you would have only received $3000 back, then would have repurchased the TV at $3000. Not sure where the benefit is there.

 


Yes, I know it doesn't sound logical. But the benefit was I wouldn't have paid 499 for a player I don't want. Thus I only pay for the TV. As it stands I sold the player for about 240 profit, hence paying 3260 for the TV. If I had known and had some foresight I might have just bought the TV if the offer was open and waited for the price to go down. Just seemed like the bundle was the better deal at the time.

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Yes, I know it doesn't sound logical. But the benefit was I wouldn't have paid 499 for a player I don't want. Thus I only pay for the TV. As it stands I sold the player for about 240 profit, hence paying 3260 for the TV. If I had known and had some foresight I might have just bought the TV if the offer was open and waited for the price to go down. Just seemed like the bundle was the better deal at the time.

I don't think anyone would have predicted it going below $3k this soon. I thought $3299 was a steal. $2999 for a set that was about $5k less than 2 months ago...
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I don't think anyone would have predicted it going below $3k this soon. I thought $3299 was a steal. $2999 for a set that was about $5k less than 2 months ago...

 

Yea, Its still worth what I paid, no regrets, no remorse. Every little bit of discount is just bonus. Can't complain when guys have paid the 5K or more like you are saying.

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I don't think anyone would have predicted it going below $3k this soon. I thought $3299 was a steal. $2999 for a set that was about $5k less than 2 months ago...

All of the price drops were certainly not typical for a Sony product.
I got my 65 x900 after a 500 price drop on sept 1 and paid 5,500 for the TV - which was good at that point.
You guys all got great deals on the price of the TV smile.gif
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Pulled the trigger today on the 65", which will be delivered on Thursday in time for the World Cup first game. Cannot wait! I was going to wait a couple more months to decide, but at this price and the generally great reviews (and the 3D performance, which is one of my main criteria) sealed the deal. Thanks to everyone for the information I gleaned from this thread. smile.gif
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You can take a look at what I have in my sig for warm1

I tried your's last night before going to bed. Really cool! Thats the kind of result i was looking for (excpet in standard, I want to keep the movie modes pure for night and day). Ill take the meter to it this weekend and lets see where i get.
If you have the time to explain in short how you got to these settings that would be great. It would be nice to know why you made certain choices - like the resolution, the colour etc.
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Placebo effect, RiED. wink.gif Everyone would like a firmware upgrade to improve PQ, but I have yet to see this happen. As it happens, I was checking a few settings the other evening (after the FW update), and a backlight setting of 7 still produces a Luminance of ~40, so I was not observing any increase in brightness.

BTW, when double-checking the Brightness setting using Spears&Munsil, a setting of 53 seems to be the optimal value. However, any time I increase Brightness beyond 50, my black backgrounds start taking on a gray color, which I absolutely don't like. So, IMO, the Brightness setting should never be set higher than 50. Some off you have even recommended 49, which is OK as well.

Thank goodness you pointed that out Austin. On every disc I have used (DVE, hd709, Disney, THX) I have gotten the same result , ie 52-5 brightness or loss of shadow detail. I haven't yet gotten my copy of Spears - which i will use to run the clipping test provided in calman 5. Lets see where I get.

However Austin I have not seen any negative effects of keeping the brightness at 52, the bars stay the same on my 65. On the 55 it was a problem, there bars and the sides used to brighten, but that isnt the case for the 65. I will do some more investigation this weekend and let you know. smile.gif
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Thanks for the information regarding the mount.

What should be the main areas of display analysis out of the box for a LED? Light bleed, ghosting and thing specific to the 65?

I take that I won't have to run slides for 72 hours before using like Plasma? Any break in techniques for LED?

From what I gathered, there is not a service menu for deep calibration settings. Best Buy offered calibration for a fee. Would I be better off working with the recommend setting posted by users here?

I really appreciate all of the responses and cool additudes in this thread. Really refreshing!

BTW, what is with this $7000 Pro 65" 2014 model the guys at BB were jocking? They said it has superior brightness and local dimming zones when compared to the 900B and 900A. Sounded fishy at best.

I did not find any of the new models esthetically as pleasing as the 900A. That could just be me though.
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BTW, what is with this $7000 Pro 65" 2014 model the guys at BB were jocking? They said it has superior brightness and local dimming zones when compared to the 900B and 900A. Sounded fishy at best.

I did not find any of the new models esthetically as pleasing as the 900A. That could just be me though.

That is the 950B, which has full array local dimming backlight instead of the edge lit local dimming this set and the 900B have. It is true it is likely superior in many ways especially contrast, black levels and brightness, but I would find it hard to justify $4k more for that improvement. (it is $7999, not $7000)
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I am noticing banding and "puckering" coming from the top and bottom few inches of the screen on light backgrounds when I am >30 degrees off center. It already washes out and dims noticeably at that angle, but I am wondering if the banding is also normal to see at that angle or just a bad set. Viewing angle is not the best on this set.
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I am noticing banding and "puckering" coming from the top and bottom few inches of the screen on light backgrounds when I am >30 degrees off center. It already washes out and dims noticeably at that angle, but I am wondering if the banding is also normal to see at that angle or just a bad set. Viewing angle is not the best on this set.

That's been one of my main gripes with LCD/LED. frown.gif However, no more Plasma for me and OLED is out of the question. Hopefully you can get the answer you need regarding the issue from an actual experienced owner.
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Thanks for the information regarding the mount.

What should be the main areas of display analysis out of the box for a LED? Light bleed, ghosting and thing specific to the 65?

I take that I won't have to run slides for 72 hours before using like Plasma? Any break in techniques for LED?

From what I gathered, there is not a service menu for deep calibration settings. Best Buy offered calibration for a fee. Would I be better off working with the recommend setting posted by users here?

I really appreciate all of the responses and cool additudes in this thread. Really refreshing!

BTW, what is with this $7000 Pro 65" 2014 model the guys at BB were jocking? They said it has superior brightness and local dimming zones when compared to the 900B and 900A. Sounded fishy at best.

I did not find any of the new models esthetically as pleasing as the 900A. That could just be me though.

Note that when you wall-mount the display, you should make sure that it is not too high on the wall relative to your seated position. 3D is negatively impacted if the vertical viewing angle is too great. Better to look straight-on at the display.

There is no break-in period for LED displays. Nothing in the service menu for us to adjust. IMO, you should try the settings you will find here in the thread before you consider a professional calibration.
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Just posting this over from the B thread. If you can find the Sony fmp-x1 at frys it is $150 new in box in store only.

Online still says $698, but once you go to pick it up in store it is in fact $150.
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I'm still in awe of the 3D. I paid $3299.00 and it's worth every penny. Hard to believe I could actually afford a 65" top of the line 4K TV so soon, so hopefully 4KTVs continue to price drop and get better so that it becomes the industry norm (especially for TVs over 50 inches).

As for the wall mount, I use a swivel and tilt because I watch from different positions in the living room. My recliner, which is only six feet away, is at a 25 degree angle from the wall and I watch it from there mostly. So I must have a swivel mount (which is over the fireplace). Since this 65" TV is 7" bigger than my previous plasma (weighs about the same), I'm finding that I now can sit and watch comfortably on the living room couch, which is 10 feet away. I actually like watching 3D from there better, and 2D from the closer position on the recliner (which I'll need to sit to appreciate native 4K more).

I've used this mount for 4 years now but I still worry sometimes that it might fail on me. I think I only paid about $50 for it, don't remember.
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Just posting this over from the B thread. If you can find the Sony fmp-x1 at frys it is $150 new in box in store only.

Online still says $698, but once you go to pick it up in store it is in fact $150.
Great deal, I for one really like the media player, has it's quirks, but love the 4k content and ease of access...Nice find.
I'm still deliberating on picking up the X10, I don't do Netflix, might consider it if they surpass the Sony content, other than that, what real advantage does it have over the X1?
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Great deal, I for one really like the media player, has it's quirks, but love the 4k content and ease of access...Nice find.
I'm still deliberating on picking up the X10, I don't do Netflix, might consider it if they surpass the Sony content, other than that, what real advantage does it have over the X1?

It's hard to say this early without hands on, but USB playback, better specs, maybe future streaming services, it's own remote.

I have the x10 on preorder, but for $150 I could not turn down the x1. I could probably use it for a few months and still sell it for at least that amount.
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It's hard to say this early without hands on, but USB playback, better specs, maybe future streaming services, it's own remote.

I have the x10 on preorder, but for $150 I could not turn down the x1. I could probably use it for a few months and still sell it for at least that amount.
Not sure the USB capabilities are enticing enough for me to make the jump. I don't record or take pictures in 4k, and to me the stuff I come across on YouTube isn't interesting enough to go through the hassle of hooking up a PC to watch... I could be wrong of course, is there anything in 4k of great significance (or rivals the X1) on YouTube?

Edit: The one area Sony really needs to address is the download speeds to the player. I recently upgraded to a gigabit fiber line (yep, a gigabit line through Century Link for right around $125 with my bundle deal, kick ass eh?), yet my download speeds to the media player average 10-12 Mbps...Ridiculous
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Just watched the LG demo on my 55x900A and the quality difference between that and the 4K content I've seen is breathtaking.
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I have the 55x900a and am trying to use it as a 4k p monitor. (I have an sli build capable of the task) .... However... It seems this tv can only display 3 and 4k resolutions at 30 and 24hz. This basically limits me to 30 fps. I'm very upset. Anyone dealing wih the same issue?
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Not sure the USB capabilities are enticing enough for me to make the jump. I don't record or take pictures in 4k, and to me the stuff I come across on YouTube isn't interesting enough to go through the hassle of hooking up a PC to watch... I could be wrong of course, is there anything in 4k of great significance (or rivals the X1) on YouTube?

Edit: The one area Sony really needs to address is the download speeds to the player. I recently upgraded to a gigabit fiber line (yep, a gigabit line through Century Link for right around $125 with my bundle deal, kick ass eh?), yet my download speeds to the media player average 10-12 Mbps...Ridiculous

I may be wrong, but I would think the new codec would make download speeds use less bandwidth and hopefully faster.

Also you can play the movies while streaming versus having to download.
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I tried your's last night before going to bed. Really cool! Thats the kind of result i was looking for (excpet in standard, I want to keep the movie modes pure for night and day). Ill take the meter to it this weekend and lets see where i get.
If you have the time to explain in short how you got to these settings that would be great. It would be nice to know why you made certain choices - like the resolution, the colour etc.

It is an interesting technique. So basically there are many settings that we all have shared that are basically the same for the 65" panel at least. Brightness 48-53, Backlight 6-7, etc

Really what you are dealing with is color temp and white balance settings - the latter definitely varies per panel, so another user may not find these useful.

I don't like my calibrated settings on Warm2. I cannot abide the white balance at the high end being yellow/green.
So I decided to move all of the white balance settings as default and compared the different color temps against an 80 and 100 white pattern, to see what my "eyes" felt was neutral white - ie. this was warm1 (I also don't like bluish whites - they hurt my eyes). Then I tweaked the white balance settings from there. Mostly on the high end, but on the low end my objective was to kill the red and blue push on colors and coax red, green, blue into equal vibrancy. I used real content for these judgements.

As for resolution - I have seen 8, 12, 21, 30, 54, and 69 in reviews and by calibrators. I change around all the time, but I rarely see a huge difference from my viewing distance.

I have already made some slight changes so I will update my sig later today. I do think I'm finally ready to call it a day on this and move on to other pursuits wink.gif.


Not scientific, and I'm not digging out my meter - I like the picture - ----If you want calibrated results, yes - use AustinJerry's settings in his sig.
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I have the 55x900a and am trying to use it as a 4k p monitor. (I have an sli build capable of the task) .... However... It seems this tv can only display 3 and 4k resolutions at 30 and 24hz. This basically limits me to 30 fps. I'm very upset. Anyone dealing wih the same issue?

Yes, that is correct. You need an HDMI 2.0 output to output 60Hz 4k to this TV. Unfortunately, no HDMI 2.0 video cards have been released yet.

You would need a 4k TV with a display port input (there is one out there, Panasonic I think) to currently get 4k@60Hz.

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I just realized between RiED's and Nishant's comments that i have lots of blurays i need to purchase. smile.gif

lmao! dude, i have so many that i forget sometimes while shopping if i own the title or not already. LOL except the new ones ofcourse wink.gif so i hear you! hahaha this tv will defenatly do that to you. biggrin.gif
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