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Could someone recommend any setting adjustments for the 55 inch model?

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2) WDTV media player for video files, etc (output at 1080p/AUTO hz)
3) PS3 for blurays

Also, did anyone consider the Samsung F8000 when buying your x900a? Any thoughts on that model in comparison to the x900a for 1080p source content?
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jefe1, How did you pay $2550 for the 65X900A from Best Buy? Did you price match another retailer?
The set I bought was returned by a customer the day before, who preferred a samsung model. So technically it was an open box and I negotiated a little.
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If you could get an insane deal like eric_purdue did (for $2,300) would you guys return a NIB 70" W850b for a best buy demo 65" x900a with what I assume is approximately 3000 hrs of panel use and no 3d glasses? Is that too much usage? I would of course purchase the PRP for it too or maybe get them to throw it in for a little more. The sale price + tax for a NIB one may just be way too much to get an approval from the wifey...
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Go for it Geoff - you only live once.
Nah, I've had another look and I simply can't justify it. If I found one for the equivalent of $2500 - about £1500 in real money - then I'd snap it up faster than **** goes through a goose, but the lowest the 65 has ever been over here is £2700, roughly $4600! Add that to what I paid for the 55 to begin with (£3300) and I'd be looking at an outlay of £6K (over $10K USD) which, ironically enough, is what the 65 originally retailed for when it was first released over here. And I still wouldn't have USB 4K playback and the other niceties of the newer models.

I'll never say never, but it's highly unlikely that I'll be able to get the 65. I loves my 55 in any case. Watched The Final Destination in 3D last night and it was awesome, even at only 540 lines per eye.
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Nah, I've had another look and I simply can't justify it. If I found one for the equivalent of $2500 - about £1500 in real money - then I'd snap it up faster than **** goes through a goose, but the lowest the 65 has ever been over here is £2700, roughly $4600! Add that to what I paid for the 55 to begin with (£3300) and I'd be looking at an outlay of £6K (over $10K USD) which, ironically enough, is what the 65 originally retailed for when it was first released over here. And I still wouldn't have USB 4K playback and the other niceties of the newer models.

I'll never say never, but it's highly unlikely that I'll be able to get the 65. I loves my 55 in any case. Watched The Final Destination in 3D last night and it was awesome, even at only 540 lines per eye.
Gotta add that 540 per eye incase anyone tries to flame you
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If you could get an insane deal like eric_purdue did (for $2,300) would you guys return a NIB 70" W850b for a best buy demo 65" x900a with what I assume is approximately 3000 hrs of panel use and no 3d glasses? Is that too much usage? I would of course purchase the PRP for it too or maybe get them to throw it in for a little more. The sale price + tax for a NIB one may just be way too much to get an approval from the wifey...
I generally expect my tv to be capable of lasting for 10 years at about 5 hours per day average usage. So I think this unit is capable of lasting at least 5 x 365 = 18,250 hours. So I would assume you have at least about 15,000 hours of life left in the demo, which would be about 8 years at 5 hours per day.

One advantage of buying the demo is you can check out the panel for any uniformity issues up front. So you can make sure you love it before you buy it. In some ways, if you decide to go for it, you may avoid the headaches that many on this thread have had from having to go through many panels to get one they loved.

So maybe it would be helpful to amortize your tv cost per year for the 850b you already bought assuming a 10 year lifespan, and compare that to the price per year of an 8 year lifespan 900a? Then make a decision as to whether you think it's worth it?

I also notice that you mentioned you have the 70 inch 850b, which I believe is generally pricier than the 65 900b (unless you scored some deal on the 70 850b). What made you pick the 70 850b over the 65 900b in the first place? In many ways the 900b is comparable to the 900a, just with worse (I mean active shutter) 3d. So if you chose the 70 inch 850b over the 65 900b, what has you considering the 65 900a over the 70 850b? If the answer is not "awesome 3d", then it may not be worth swapping panels in your case, since I assume you liked the 70 850b better than the 65 900b to begin with.

Good luck in your decision!
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I generally expect my tv to be capable of lasting for 10 years at about 5 hours per day average usage. So I think this unit is capable of lasting at least 5 x 365 = 18,250 hours. So I would assume you have at least about 15,000 hours of life left in the demo, which would be about 8 years at 5 hours per day.

One advantage of buying the demo is you can check out the panel for any uniformity issues up front. So you can make sure you love it before you buy it. In some ways, if you decide to go for it, you may avoid the headaches that many on this thread have had from having to go through many panels to get one they loved.

So maybe it would be helpful to amortize your tv cost per year for the 850b you already bought assuming a 10 year lifespan, and compare that to the price per year of an 8 year lifespan 900a? Then make a decision as to whether you think it's worth it?

I also notice that you mentioned you have the 70 inch 850b, which I believe is generally pricier than the 65 900b (unless you scored some deal on the 70 850b). What made you pick the 70 850b over the 65 900b in the first place? In many ways the 900b is comparable to the 900a, just with worse (I mean active shutter) 3d. So if you chose the 70 inch 850b over the 65 900b, what has you considering the 65 900a over the 70 850b? If the answer is not "awesome 3d", then it may not be worth swapping panels in your case, since I assume you liked the 70 850b better than the 65 900b to begin with.

Good luck in your decision!
He has the W not the X850b
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So does it just not play downloaded 4k content? What would be the limitation? I hear the audio, but the video is distorted and a message says not supported.
New to the forums after a recent purchase of my X9. I can confirm that, I have been able to play a few different file types from the USB port on my X955. I will try playing some 4k content from the USB port and will advise my results.

BTW, thanks to everyone in the thread for the great work in video/screen settings and accessories comparisons. I hope to add my grain of salt to the thread, as best as I can.!!

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He has the W not the X850b
Oops - totally misread that. Yeah, I would definitely jump on the demo 900a over the W given the chance if I got it into a price range that got the spousal "green light".
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I generally expect my tv to be capable of lasting for 10 years at about 5 hours per day average usage. So I think this unit is capable of lasting at least 5 x 365 = 18,250 hours. So I would assume you have at least about 15,000 hours of life left in the demo, which would be about 8 years at 5 hours per day.

One advantage of buying the demo is you can check out the panel for any uniformity issues up front. So you can make sure you love it before you buy it. In some ways, if you decide to go for it, you may avoid the headaches that many on this thread have had from having to go through many panels to get one they loved.

So maybe it would be helpful to amortize your tv cost per year for the 850b you already bought assuming a 10 year lifespan, and compare that to the price per year of an 8 year lifespan 900a? Then make a decision as to whether you think it's worth it?

I also notice that you mentioned you have the 70 inch 850b, which I believe is generally pricier than the 65 900b (unless you scored some deal on the 70 850b). What made you pick the 70 850b over the 65 900b in the first place? In many ways the 900b is comparable to the 900a, just with worse (I mean active shutter) 3d. So if you chose the 70 inch 850b over the 65 900b, what has you considering the 65 900a over the 70 850b? If the answer is not "awesome 3d", then it may not be worth swapping panels in your case, since I assume you liked the 70 850b better than the 65 900b to begin with.

Good luck in your decision!
I purchased my set from the Magnolia div inside my local Best Buy. Was an open box/demo unit that was displayed in one of their home theater setups. After complaining about the hours/usage the set was subjected to, we came to an agreement with the current Mag manager that if I purchased the normal 3 yr Magnolia coverage, he would add an extra year for a total of 4yrs. I felt content with this, and purchased the set for $1600.00. I considered this a great deal for the set and the covereage made me feel at ease purchasing the set. If if makes you feel comfortable on your purchase go see if you can still add coverage????

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Nah, I've had another look and I simply can't justify it. If I found one for the equivalent of $2500 - about £1500 in real money - then I'd snap it up faster than **** goes through a goose, but the lowest the 65 has ever been over here is £2700, roughly $4600! Add that to what I paid for the 55 to begin with (£3300) and I'd be looking at an outlay of £6K (over $10K USD) which, ironically enough, is what the 65 originally retailed for when it was first released over here. And I still wouldn't have USB 4K playback and the other niceties of the newer models.

I'll never say never, but it's highly unlikely that I'll be able to get the 65. I loves my 55 in any case. Watched The Final Destination in 3D last night and it was awesome, even at only 540 lines per eye.
All that matters is that you are happy with your TV and you clearly already have that.
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New to the forums after a recent purchase of my X9. I can confirm that, I have been able to play a few different file types from the USB port on my X955. I will try playing some 4k content from the USB port and will advise my results.

BTW, thanks to everyone in the thread for the great work in video/screen settings and accessories comparisons. I hope to add my grain of salt to the thread, as best as I can.!!

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I wouldn't waste your time with the 4K vids. You may be Jesus, but even you won't be able to get 4K running from USB.

What's so frustrating about it, as Matt said, is that the videos play with audio but broken-up distorted video. It's not like the TV dismisses the file out of hand, because it likes the file type, it just can't process what's in the container.
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ahh. Mine says I can order it online for store pick up in 7-10 days at my local store.
Initially it appeared that I had the option for store pick up in 7-10 days, but when asked later to put in my zip code I received an error message asking me to take the set out of my cart as it was not available to be shipped to the store selected. I attempted to select other BB stores in my error and received the same message each time.
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Thanks for the input everyone!

If you guys don't think 3000 hrs is too much then I'll go negotiate the price + PRP tonight or this weekend. My only other concerns are losing the 5" I've already been accustomed to the last few weeks and the cost of replacement passive 3D glasses.

From what I understand, they're very inexpensive so that shouldn't hurt the pocket too much. I have no idea how much passive 3D glasses costs, btw. Also, I think having the speakers on the side helps the set overall to appear "bigger" so hopefully the 5" reduction in screen size doesn't seem so noticeable on the wall since my 70" is already mounted.

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Would you guys get a 65" x900a or a 75" samsung 6350? I would be sitting at 15 feet away.
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Man, I wish you guys would quit it with the '65 is better' line. I've got a 55 without HDCP 2.2 that would be very hard to get rid of, but now I'm looking at my space, measuring it up, seeing if I can justify losing thousands of pounds on the 55 and spending thousands more on the 65....
Yep i have the 55 too and have 65 envy, just going to suck it up until the 79B drops significantly
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I was really getting bummed about my TV lately. The clouding in dark scenes was so obvious. It was distracting. Well, after about a week of this I started looking at my settings again and noticed that LED Dynamic control was OFF... Wow, what a difference it makes. I love my TV again. Thank God, I love my TV. All you lucky bastards who own this TV. You are lucky bastards. FYI, I've converted to WARM2 and love it... looks more natural to me all of a sudden.
Yes you are right, mine was off too and turning it on and the clouding has gone, did you set to standard or low?
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Could someone recommend any setting adjustments for the 55 inch model?

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2) WDTV media player for video files, etc (output at 1080p/AUTO hz)
3) PS3 for blurays

Also, did anyone consider the Samsung F8000 when buying your x900a? Any thoughts on that model in comparison to the x900a for 1080p source content?
I upgraded from a samsung ES8000 when i got my X900A, my sony smokes the samsung, specialy in black levels and color reproduction/better overall PQ. the F8000 is very similar to the ES, so i think the 900A still wins.
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I wouldn't waste your time with the 4K vids. You may be Jesus, but even you won't be able to get 4K running from USB.

What's so frustrating about it, as Matt said, is that the videos play with audio but broken-up distorted video. It's not like the TV dismisses the file out of hand, because it likes the file type, it just can't process what's in the container.

How about streaming 4k content via DivX on your local network?? Any one have any tries @ this???
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Yes you are right, mine was off too and turning it on and the clouding has gone, did you set to standard or low?
I'd recommend Standard, for what it's worth. Low is almost like having the dynamic backlight off because it reacts a lot slower than Standard, and Low also gave me some squirly results when I ran a calibration with it on, whereas Standard calibrates like a champ.
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How about streaming 4k content via DivX on your local network?? Any one have any tries @ this???
Haven't tried it, sorry. I can never get that voodoo to work on my computer, so I don't bother. My Oppo seems to play any file know to man anyway, so I just load whatever onto a USB drive and it plays it. (though not 4K content, obvs)
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I'd recommend Standard, for what it's worth. Low is almost like having the dynamic backlight off because it reacts a lot slower than Standard, and Low also gave me some squirly results when I ran a calibration with it on, whereas Standard calibrates like a champ.
Cheers.
I have a bunch of 480p videos and still amazed at the upscalling
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Would you guys get a 65" x900a or a 75" samsung 6350? I would be sitting at 15 feet away.
Youre asking in an x900a owners thread
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Cheers.
I have a bunch of 480p videos and still amazed at the upscalling
I tell you what, I'd love to see some downscaled 4K->1080p videos played on this set. Footage of the World Cup in 4K is starting to leak out here and there, and even the downscaled 1080p screenshots look incredible, far better than the actual HD broadcasts.
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Haven't tried it, sorry. I can never get that voodoo to work on my computer, so I don't bother. My Oppo seems to play any file know to man anyway, so I just load whatever onto a USB drive and it plays it. (though not 4K content, obvs)
Ill give it a go tonight, and report any discrepancies. So far I am loving my 55X900A, best picture I have ever owned on a set. We normally use my Xbox One as my main media center hub, as I do not believe in Cable/Satellite providers (I.TV it is!!). I can however confirm that the WiiU games up-scaled from 1080p look amazing, Mario Kart Rocks!!!!!!
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No, yours has HDCP 2.2. That member is from the UK, these TVs are different from country to country.

Also be very happy you hit the jackpot with a Made in Japan unit.
Panel lottery really...not so much where it was made. There are plenty of set's made in both facilities that rock. This I know....

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Holy Crap... I paid 2299 for mine brand new from beach camera. That BB price is terrible... Then again it beats paying $5,000 for the tv before the recent price drop
I remembered when you were asking about which set to get a couple of weeks ago and see you ended up with the Sony, great set. I also remembered a couple of people shot down the Idea of buying it from Beach Camera for $2299 saying we wouldnt be getting new and a slew of people would come here and complain about screen uniformity issues. I can honestly say I am astounded with my set and the 3D if worth it alone. I have several TV's, a Vizio 55" 552 with the FALD, Vizio 32" with Passive 3D, Samsung 60D8000 and a Sharp 60" LC-LE847U and even though its not as bright as those sets, the picture is much better on the Sony.

I have been buying 3D movies lately like they are going out of style. I wasn't really too happy watching 3D on my other sets because something always felt funny watching though the active glasses on the Samsung and Sharp, the Vizio was too small and has the 3D vertical lines.
The FMP-X10 is next on my list but I might wait to see how that pans out because watching Blu Ray on this set looks fantastic, also streaming Netflix in Super HD looks great as well.
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Thanks for the input everyone!

If you guys don't think 3000 hrs is too much then I'll go negotiate the price + PRP tonight or this weekend. My only other concerns are losing the 5" I've already been accustomed to the last few weeks and the cost of replacement passive 3D glasses.

From what I understand, they're very inexpensive so that shouldn't hurt the pocket too much. I have no idea how much passive 3D glasses costs, btw. Also, I think having the speakers on the side helps the set overall to appear "bigger" so hopefully the 5" reduction in screen size doesn't seem so noticeable on the wall since my 70" is already mounted.
You should be able to land some cheap glasses. I just bought a pack of 4 of the kids sized despicable me 2 branded glasses (new in package) that were used in the theaters back when then was out for $10.00 shipped from eBay. My son already had a pair, and I needed some exact duplicates to prevent sibling fighting from ensuing as to who gets to wear the despicable me ones.

I also ordered two pair of the True Depth brand (based on flinchn's 3d glasses shoot out results) off of amazon for $10.00 each. Definitely not bank breaking.
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....and I needed some exact duplicates to prevent sibling fighting from ensuing as to who gets to wear the despicable me ones.
That's hilarious. Same thing happens at my house with my kiddos with pretty much everything..
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Would you guys get a 65" x900a or a 75" samsung 6350? I would be sitting at 15 feet away.
Everyone here wil say 900a. And you should.

15feet!? Damn.
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