Originally Posted by SwedishChef
Thanks to everyone who contributes to these forums - and those who helped answer my previous question some weeks ago. I've learned a lot about the set since then, and tried several sets of settings including AustinJerry and flinchn - thanks for taking the time to post and tweak those, guys.
I may eventually have it calibrated, but for now I've found the most happiness with the Sound and Vision settings. I do have one annoying ongoing issue, though. Motion in Amazon Instant Video playback. My kid watches Thomas the Tank Engine on that sometimes, and WOW does it drive me nuts. Things moving against a fixed background just "jump" all the time (e.g. one animated train passing another). Even just a single person moving at reasonable speed against a fixed indoor background (between the animated segments) jerks back and forth.
This has not happened when watching Blu-Ray and 3d Blu-Ray movies for me. I'd blame Amazon's compression, but A) my wife swears the jerkiness disappears if I she uses Amazon on the Xbox 360, and B) and it doesn't look like those artifacts usually do.
I don't blame the internet connection because the whole frame/picture isn't stuttering or anything, and the resolution stays consistently high. But ugh, I'm getting motion sick. I'm going to go double check I've got all motion stuff turned off (which I think I do), but I'm looking for other ideas and suggestions for testing.
Not quite sure what the root cause is but I have some suspicions which may help you diagnose.
Amazon HD is 720p, there is no 1080p offering. The upscaling required to deliver the extra resolution on the panel may be taxing the processor resulting in latency. I do know there is extra computational power required for 720 sources. I don't know if this is the cause of the problem you mentioned. It's possible your wife isn't as sensitive to it as you are.
I have a FireTV and a PS3 and PS4. When I watch Amazon Prime on the Playstations I too notice significant motion blur that is minimal/nonexistent on the Amazon FireTV box. There should be no reason at all for this, but I assure you it's true. Content from Amazon looks better on the FireTV. As a side note, I have the means to investigate this further as I work closely with the FireTV group. I've actually been meaning to ask for a couple of weeks.
The last one may be obvious, but check your source settings. You may have motionflow set to off on your Amazon source and standard, clear or smooth on other sources. This absolutely will make a difference. Whether or not you like the effect of the smoothing is up to you, but it does significantly improve the motion handling. I watch all content with the "standard" motionflow setting. I feel it hits the right balance between a natural look and motion blur reduction.
Now I have my own question. I just recently noticed the very light black vertical banding that appears during extremely light colored scenes when there's motion, such as a camera that pans across a clear sky. It wouldn't bother me much except that it's more apparent in gaming because of all the fast camera movement. I've read much of this thread and noticed others also have this issue to a greater or lesser extent, but it doesn't seem like everyone does. My guess is the black bands are areas between the fixed LEDs that aren't getting the same amount of light, but I really don't know.
If ALL of these sets have that "issue" to some degree, and it's simply the nature of the edge lit beast, I'd be OK with it even knowing that other tv models don't do this. However, if it's a known problem with the panel that's a different story that may result in a call to Sony. I don't feel like I'm being particularly sensitive either. My panel has some clouding but I expect that and it isn't nearly as bad as other LCDs I've seen. The motion handling of this set isn't quite what I was hoping for, especially after coming from the HX800 which was 240hz, although that really shouldn't make a difference if I understand the technology correctly. But when you add all three up, it's less than ideal for a $5k TV. Interestingly, I don't recall reading a single review which mentioned motion resolution on this set as anything less than the best available LCD's. One reviewer said the detail was scrubbed away when panning, and I do notice that. Wish it wasn't the case, but it is and IMO worth the trade-offs.
In the "not bitching" department, the overall PQ of this set is mind blowing, even on 1080p sources. It's certainly the best I've seen but I haven't spent any real time with the new Samsung plasma (8500 I think?). My final choices came down to that TV or the X9. I chose the x9 because I read the PQ was similar (with the usual plasma vs LCD caveats), the x9 was 4k with passive 3d (a big deal for me) and the overall aesthetic of the design.
With everything the x9 has going for it though, motion handling and viewing angles seem to be the weak points. I wonder if native 4k content will handle motion better because of the lack of upconversion?