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Comcast is offering their X1 service for a reasonable price, BUT that means I'm going to have to watch a hundred hours of recorded shows before I retire the Scientific Atlanta 8300. Can material on a Comcast DVR get transferred over to a sidecar DVR and then have it play back with the new X1 cable box?
There is no way to do that - the DVR Expander hard drives get paired with a cablebox and require a reformat when they get connected to a new DVR. I am waiting for 4K to be announced from Comcast before I go to the X1. I think it will appear in that platform before the others. Waiting also gives me enough time to watch all the shows on there. Problem is I keep recording new ones.

Also you need to use Comcast's cable modem and router for X1. I own my own equipment for both of those so that is less appealing to me to rent those again.

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There is no way to do that - the DVR Expander hard drives get paired with a cablebox and require a reformat when they get connected to a new DVR. I am waiting for 4K to be announced from Comcast before I go to the X1. I think it will appear in that platform before the others. Waiting also gives me enough time to watch all the shows on there. Problem is I keep recording new ones.

Also you need to use Comcast's cable modem and router for X1. I own my own equipment for both of those so that is less appealing to me to rent those again.
Thanks for that info, I didn't know they made you use their modem and router.
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There is no way to do that - the DVR Expander hard drives get paired with a cablebox and require a reformat when they get connected to a new DVR. I am waiting for 4K to be announced from Comcast before I go to the X1. I think it will appear in that platform before the others. Waiting also gives me enough time to watch all the shows on there. Problem is I keep recording new ones.

Also you need to use Comcast's cable modem and router for X1. I own my own equipment for both of those so that is less appealing to me to rent those again.
You will be a very old man by the time Comcast starts broadcasting in 4k; aren't we still waiting for 1080p?

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Thanks for that info, I didn't know they made you use their modem and router.
Not true on this; I am using my own Asus rt87r router on this system; I am renting their modem for now, but just for the first month to make sure everything works properly..
Now, I had the installer run a dedicated drop directly off the main line in via a splitter to the X1 box, so not sure if that is how I was able to circumvent using their router/modem...
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You will be a very old man by the time Comcast starts broadcasting in 4k; aren't we still waiting for 1080p?



Not true on this; I am using my own Asus rt87r router on this system; I am renting their modem for now, but just for the first month to make sure everything works properly..
Now, I had the installer run a dedicated drop directly off the main line in via a splitter to the X1 box, so not sure if that is how I was able to circumvent using their router/modem...
I can already rent 1080p on demand from Comcast but no channels are using it. 4k is due by end of year from Comcast and Samsung TVs - Sony can't be far behind that schedule.
When i called Comcast 3 months ago they told me I had to rent their modem/router which is an all in one device. I have never seen them in a store for purchase either, but it could be different depending on where you live.

Here is an article:
http://www.twice.com/ultra-hd-conten...s-arrive/54077

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You can use your own modem on Comcast. The issue is when you subscribe to a bundle that includes home phone service you need one of their modems that has the built in VOIP adapter for your phone service.
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You can use your own modem on Comcast. The issue is when you subscribe to a bundle that includes home phone service you need one of their modems that has the built in VOIP adapter for your phone service.
Thanks for the additional info - that makes sense. I was looking at the triple play which included the phone. The modem is what stopped me from going to X1. I will have to look into it again now.


Just called Comcast and the X1 is only available as a triple play in my area.

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ok, so you guys know, here is my setup with Comcast.

their MTA for the phone is in the basement of my house, a stand alone unit.

their modem is on my second floor, and I ONLY had them activate the "modem" part of their combo unit

its connected to my AC router, so I have the best of all worlds, IMO

They offered me a deal I couldn't refuse; 105/20 internet, one phone line with unlimited use, and their premier plus,(which is one notch down from everything) TV package for 99 per month for 1 year. The X1 dvr is 10 per month, and, obviously, their modem is 8 bucks per month, and the MTA for the phone is 8 bucks. I will dump their modem once I am certain everything works well, and buy my own, and they said that is ok.

I didn't want to have a comcast phone line, but hell, for that price, even if I never use it its a sweet deal. I had to take the triple pack to get that low price for everything, even though I didn't want the TV or phone actually.Lat year I "cut the cable", and got antennas for my tv's, and roku boxes for a few of the rooms, and have had more to watch from those 2 sources than I could ever get to.

As far as 1080p from Comcast, we've waited almost 10 years, and all they offer in 1080p is PPV.
The article you linked from Twice, a industry "rag" doesn't mean squat, as far as an actual commitment from Comcast to show anything in 4k; if they only have 1080P in PPV, can you imagine what they might charge to "rent" a 4k movie?

Chicago is an important, competitive market for them, so you may not be able to get this "deal" in other parts of the country, but, its out there, so it won't hurt to ask for this is you are thinking about using them.
I only wanted their internet service, as the only alternative, ATT Uverse, sucks even more than Comcast does; the "lesser" of 2 evils I guess!
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I need some assistance from thread participants to fix an issue with viewing this thread that I have been experiencing for several months (since the Forum upgrade). The issue has been reported here:

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I need some assistance from thread participants to fix an issue with viewing this thread that I have been experiencing for several months (since the Forum upgrade). The issue has been reported here:

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Is anyone else experiencing this behavior? I would like to think that anyone using an iPad is having the same issue, because I cannot understand why my device would be any different. Feedback would be appreciated.
Same thing here. Not using an i shackle device, but since the update I go to the last page, instead of the last unread post. I just have it set to 10 posts per page to avoid having to scroll through looking for the last post I read.

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By the way, Godzilla 3D on this set looked nothing short of spectacular! Waiting now on the Gardians and The Hobbit 3 This set continues to amaze me.
I'm still loving my 65A! Beautiful, in every way!!! Just got Godzilla 3D and fell asleep about one third in, but nothing to do with the movie... its awesome so far, just gotta start it earlier next time

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X900a

What makes the X900A such a great TV? It appears that alot feels it is better than the X900B. Aside from the active 3D vs the passive 3D how is the x900A better than the x900B? I heard that on the X900B Sony upgraded the X-Reality Pro up conversion so things are sharper and have better color. Also I heard motion is slightly better with less judder in the picture. I do not own either one but own an X850A and have mixed opinions of the TV. Thanks.
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What makes the X900A such a great TV? It appears that alot feels it is better than the X900B. Aside from the active 3D vs the passive 3D how is the x900A better than the x900B? I heard that on the X900B Sony upgraded the X-Reality Pro up conversion so things are sharper and have better color. Also I heard motion is slightly better with less judder in the picture. I do not own either one but own an X850A and have mixed opinions of the TV. Thanks.

Sorry to hear you don't like your TV. Have you considered selling it ?
I think in order to get an unbiased opinion, you are going to need to ask that question in the forum for 900a vs 900b.
A lot of people in here have an alliance (nice word for addiction) to their TV, so its like asking someone why their kid is ugly.


In my opinion, time is a factor in determining the answer to that question.
I have the 900a and I love it, but it was the best TV available at the time that I bought mine a year ago.
If I was shopping for a TV right now, I would buy the 79 900B which has passive 3D and next year I would buy the 900c.
I have no regrets on my 900A and I realize the black levels are improved on the 900b but that doesn't mean that my TV doesn't impress me every day with its black levels too.
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lol on the "why your kid is ugly"
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lol on the "why your kid is ugly"
I think some of us like our 900a's better than our kids.
Not me of course

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I'm 50-50 on this one, with a slight bias towards the tv...
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Hi guys,

For the past couple of months I have been experimenting with my darblet between the chain of my receiver and my Oppo 93 (ISO support) bluray player. One of the problems that has occurred sometimes is for a brief
second I was loosing HDMI connection and getting a magenta/Pinkish coloured screen. Now I have isolated the annoying issue to colorspace between the Darblet and the Oppo. Currently I have set the Oppo on YCBR 4:2:2
and turned of Deep Color 36bit (which posed another issue- I was experiencing blinking screen with it enabled). AustinJerry- I recall you stating somewhere that you have set your color space to RGB-Video or Pc if I stand corrected??
Is this for Projector? or for the X900?? Anyone here experiencing any issues with the darblet & x900's and solved it?

Ps- I have needed to put the darblet in between the Oppo----------> Receiver chain and not the Receiver -------> TV chain due to the Oppo not being able to Pass a 4k signal. My HTPC is 4k by the way.

PSS- Those of you have a darblet connected- Can someone confirm to me in the TV menu under video input settings what your color space is set to? Auto or X.V. Color??

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I finally waded through all 408 pages! That is all ~
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I would take 65inch900a over 65900b cause of passive 3d alone.
Now when 4k-3d comes out things could get interesting, im happy with mine better 3d then the movies
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Hi guys,

For the past couple of months I have been experimenting with my darblet between the chain of my receiver and my Oppo 93 (ISO support) bluray player. One of the problems that has occurred sometimes is for a brief
second I was loosing HDMI connection and getting a magenta/Pinkish coloured screen. Now I have isolated the annoying issue to colorspace between the Darblet and the Oppo. Currently I have set the Oppo on YCBR 4:2:2
and turned of Deep Color 36bit (which posed another issue- I was experiencing blinking screen with it enabled). AustinJerry- I recall you stating somewhere that you have set your color space to RGB-Video or Pc if I stand corrected??
Is this for Projector? or for the X900?? Anyone here experiencing any issues with the darblet & x900's and solved it?

Ps- I have needed to put the darblet in between the Oppo----------> Receiver chain and not the Receiver -------> TV chain due to the Oppo not being able to Pass a 4k signal. My HTPC is 4k by the way.

PSS- Those of you have a darblet connected- Can someone confirm to me in the TV menu under video input settings what your color space is set to? Auto or X.V. Color??
I am still using RGB Video Level on my Oppo.

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Hi guys,

For the past couple of months I have been experimenting with my darblet between the chain of my receiver and my Oppo 93 (ISO support) bluray player. One of the problems that has occurred sometimes is for a brief
second I was loosing HDMI connection and getting a magenta/Pinkish coloured screen. Now I have isolated the annoying issue to colorspace between the Darblet and the Oppo. Currently I have set the Oppo on YCBR 4:2:2
and turned of Deep Color 36bit (which posed another issue- I was experiencing blinking screen with it enabled). AustinJerry- I recall you stating somewhere that you have set your color space to RGB-Video or Pc if I stand corrected??
Is this for Projector? or for the X900?? Anyone here experiencing any issues with the darblet & x900's and solved it?

Ps- I have needed to put the darblet in between the Oppo----------> Receiver chain and not the Receiver -------> TV chain due to the Oppo not being able to Pass a 4k signal. My HTPC is 4k by the way.

PSS- Those of you have a darblet connected- Can someone confirm to me in the TV menu under video input settings what your color space is set to? Auto or X.V. Color??
You sure it's the darblet? I aks because Oppo issued a firmware update to correct the HDMI problems that were specifically being caused with Sony 4K TVs. When I first connected my 95 to the 55A I was getting the exact same magenta screen alternating with white noise, and once it settled down if I tried changing the colour subsampling or the bit depth (Deep Colour) then it would throw a total shitfit, blanking the screen completely and it actually caused the TV to go into the dreaded 'blinking red LED' error mode.

The update didn't totally fix the problem but it was a lot more stable. That said, I had a re-occurence of this issue just yesterday when watching a Blu-ray on my B series set: I watched some special features and when they finished it went back to the main movie and bam, same magenta screen for about 20 seconds while it tried to lock on. FWIW I use YCbCr 4:2:2 with no Deep Colour.

I think the Oppo's a fabulous player but I didn't expect it to have so many kinks and quirks (TrueHD bitstreaming problem with branching movies, HDMI dropouts, eject button decides not to work sometimes etc).
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You sure it's the darblet? I aks because Oppo issued a firmware update to correct the HDMI problems that were specifically being caused with Sony 4K TVs. When I first connected my 95 to the 55A I was getting the exact same magenta screen alternating with white noise, and once it settled down if I tried changing the colour subsampling or the bit depth (Deep Colour) then it would throw a total shitfit, blanking the screen completely and it actually caused the TV to go into the dreaded 'blinking red LED' error mode.

The update didn't totally fix the problem but it was a lot more stable. That said, I had a re-occurence of this issue just yesterday when watching a Blu-ray on my B series set: I watched some special features and when they finished it went back to the main movie and bam, same magenta screen for about 20 seconds while it tried to lock on. FWIW I use YCbCr 4:2:2 with no Deep Colour.

I think the Oppo's a fabulous player but I didn't expect it to have so many kinks and quirks (TrueHD bitstreaming problem with branching movies, HDMI dropouts, eject button decides not to work sometimes etc).
I am aware that Oppo bought out a firmware update. The issue I am have is my Oppo has ISO support and to update it will mean loosing the feature. The work around is connecting the Oppo via the receiver instead of direct connection to the Tv. Well it has worked somewhat for me anyway. Now when I added the Darblet into the chain between the Oppo and the Receiver thats when I started experiencing its qwerks. The very first day I added it, the image was blinking in and out continuously. So Deep Color was turned off which solved the problem. However over time I would be watching say an upscaled DVD- I would loose HDMI signal for a brief second and the picture would come back again. Sometimes normally or the screen will turn magenta. So this issue I attributed too colour space (according to the Oppo Forum). Changing it to YCBCr 4:2:2 has solved this issue. (Please forgive if i sound repetitive).

Now my friend has a Cambridge bluray player as well as a 93 Oppo and a 95. The Cambridge which basically is an Oppo does not experience the same issues that the Oppos are having. He has been experiencing a different problem with the Oppo's where he is experiencing blinking whilst watching 3D material whilst the Darblet is in the chain. So hence I am somewhat fault finding and trying to solve the many qwerks out.

So anyway heres what I have found out in relevance to our TV's. I have the Oppo set to Ycbcr 4:2:2, I have turned back on Deep Colour to 36bit in the Oppo and under the Video Input Settings in the TV I (which I had selected X.V colour) turned it back to Auto for my relevant Input. Which in my case was HDMI 1 where the TV is connected to the receiver. Yesterday I watched 3 3d movies straight and it hasn't skipped a beat. So touch wood this has solved the issue. Only time will tell tho. Now this is all going through the chain like this Oppo----->Darblet------> Receiver-------> TV.

Geoff D- is your Oppo connected directly to the TV? or via a Receiver?. For what is worth I have a Pioneer SCLX 86 ( SC68 in US) and it also has video parameters which I have set to Professional for it to pass though a unmolested image. For what its worth I know exactly where you are coming from with the many Oppos qwerks.

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AJ (or someone that might know), I adjusted my sound settings across all HDMI inputs using "common" and they are all like I want them. But for the life of me I can't get my settings to work with the on board apps like Netflix/Amazon. You can't get to the "options" while in Netflix,etc. any workaround for this??
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AJ (or someone that might know), I adjusted my sound settings across all HDMI inputs using "common" and they are all like I want them. But for the life of me I can't get my settings to work with the on board apps like Netflix/Amazon. You can't get to the "options" while in Netflix,etc. any workaround for this??
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Try opening the YouTube app. The picture adjustments menu is accessible there, with a title "Internet (Video)". Some of the settings are grayed out, but most can be changed. The assumption is that if you make changes here, they will apply to any of the Internet Video apps, like Netflix. Give it a try.

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Try opening the YouTube app. The picture adjustments menu is accessible there, with a title "Internet (Video)". Some of the settings are grayed out, but most can be changed. The assumption is that if you make changes here, they will apply to any of the Internet Video apps, like Netflix. Give it a try.
Thanks AJ! Will give it a try when wife hits sack later .
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teeitup. Any update on you getting a UHD signal from your computer to your 900A. I read that some HDMI cables can get flakey for high volume transmission signals. The solution was to throw the cable out and get a new one. Also is there any chance that your HDMI cable was plugged into the motherboard's output instead of the graphics card?
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brenthenry. Any update of the X5 and your 900A? Did Sony make you a happy guy? I'm interested in the X5's performance for playing 4K files.
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teeitup. Any update on you getting a UHD signal from your computer to your 900A. I read that some HDMI cables can get flakey for high volume transmission signals. The solution was to throw the cable out and get a new one. Also is there any chance that your HDMI cable was plugged into the motherboard's output instead of the graphics card?
Turned out to be the HDMI cable. Very odd that it would work up to 1080p, but nothing over that. Moved my computer closer to the TV and tried a shorter cable and it worked. Resolution at 4096x2160! It is incredible to see my desktop displayed in 4K, and how much fits on the screen. Font is very small but so sharp. Been watching some 4K videos from YouTube which look great. Glad to get it working so I can take advantage of the capabilities of my new computer. Thanks for your help.


I'm going to return this HDMI cable and try a different one. Need a longer length so I don't have to relocate my desktop every time. I believe the cable I bought is 28 gauge, but maybe need 26 gauge or better for longer runs.
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Turned out to be the HDMI cable. Very odd that it would work up to 1080p, but nothing over that. Moved my computer closer to the TV and tried a shorter cable and it worked. Resolution at 4096x2160! It is incredible to see my desktop displayed in 4K, and how much fits on the screen. Font is very small but so sharp. Been watching some 4K videos from YouTube which look great. Glad to get it working so I can take advantage of the capabilities of my new computer. Thanks for your help.


I'm going to return this HDMI cable and try a different one. Need a longer length so I don't have to relocate my desktop every time. I believe the cable I bought is 28 gauge, but maybe need 26 gauge or better for longer runs.
Glad to hear that. My cable is 50' and I get 3480x2160 at 30HZ on my TV. I only paid $35 for my cable from Amazon. I read somewhere that length becomes a bigger factor when you want to run the display at 60HZ (HDMI 2.0). Apparently one needs an amplified cable to keep the signal strength up for longer lengths.
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